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[UPDATE] Caine blog - Cracked! 30th june '06
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achenar
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 		..surely there must be more than this?

That's not a criticism, just a 'wtf' thinger.

Has someone emailed our findings off to Caine and/or Kurt?

Where by our, I really mean your. Because the squares weren't brightly coloured enough to hold my attention for long. Wink

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 		Bookmore found another:

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(Reference numbers here, I don't have them) DESCRIPTION: Physics/Baker Spherical Magnetic Containment field; interfaced with dedicated fibre network. Tested at 120% maximum tesla strength to ensure no field leakage.


Looks like there's still stuff in there, but nobody seems to understand how the file system is working yet... at least, nobody's been able to explain it to me Smile

I agree that this is all looking like the kit used to move the cube to Earth.
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duckiemonster wrote:
Bookmore found another:

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(Reference numbers here, I don't have them) DESCRIPTION: Physics/Baker Spherical Magnetic Containment field; interfaced with dedicated fibre network. Tested at 120% maximum tesla strength to ensure no field leakage.


Looks like there's still stuff in there, but nobody seems to understand how the file system is working yet... at least, nobody's been able to explain it to me Smile

I agree that this is all looking like the kit used to move the cube to Earth.


Almost definitely.

(OMG, it's a /sphere/.)

Could it be more-or-less random? You know, information released at particular times, as long as the basic form--

Wait, no. Never mind - my mind just ticked over three or four arguments against that suggestion.

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duckiemonster wrote:
I agree that this is all looking like the kit used to move the cube to Earth.


"Look where it is now, thanks to Kiteway." Soon as Miroline said that, I was sure it wasn't the 3P that nicked it, it was Sente. Add in the old favourite, "We never touched it, it was already gone," and this latest batch of evidence, and I'm more and more convinced that Sente moved it himself. Whether his intentions were good (keep it out of teh sneaky 3P's hands) or bad (use Earth as a testing ground for his own personal cube-based apocalyptic weapon) I've no idea. Probably the latter. Then he set up the whole puzzle card thing to make it look like he was doing something, trusting to the utter incompetence and stupidity of us Earthies to ensure it was never found.

Reminds me very much of 'A murder is announced', where Miss Marple

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realises that only the owner of the house could have been the murderer, because noone else could have arranged to have the central heating on instead of the fire.

(spoilerised for Christie fans who may not have read that one yet.)

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 		Smart Dust eh? They mentioned that in a Lostcast related to last Tuesdays Lost episode. Specifically, the monster made of smoke, or 'Old Smoky' as I like to call him Smile So as Tanner says, very like nanobots.

Wikipedia and podcast (it's a LOOOONG podcast - relevent bit starts @ 33:40ish - complete with jazzhands, randomly Smile ).
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(Reference numbers here, I don't have them) DESCRIPTION: Physics/Baker Spherical Magnetic Containment field; interfaced with dedicated fibre network. Tested at 120% maximum tesla strength to ensure no field leakage.



Baker????? what I got to do with it!!!!!!
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 		A bunch of us were working on this in chat last night. We added our speculations/findings on how the puzzle works to the wiki's Talk page.
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Antony C
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 		I used Zone Mount Run Flush --/-- -- Copy Switch Flush/ -- -- Pwrite Rotate Rotate/ -- -- End -- --

It was kinda weird because the screen goes screwy as if an interference signal messes up the picture then -

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[ GATEHOUSE 24 ]

:: start 143805 +000000
:: start 143805 +000000
:: archive location { dev 7 }
:: index { yes }
:: retention { 9 }
:: processing time { 0.53 }
::

A

// labeled A;
// triangulated location mapped;
// passive badge { present }
// badge query { friedberg, i {119yr} }

You really said that [?]

// preliminary review complete

B

// labeled B;
// triangulated location mapped;
// passive badge { present }
// badge query { carrick, h {624yr} }

I was hungry [!] I'm not diplomatic when I'm starving [.]

// preliminary review complete
// 45% positive emotional state
// cross reference surveillance footage

{ extrapolated: badge {line 16} extracted }

{ gatekeeper system 24;
active badge interrogated, passed }

FRIEDBERG, I

I bet you fifty lecks your stuff is wiped when you get back [.]

// preliminary review complete

CARRICK, H

Hah [,] I'd like to see him even try [.]

// preliminary review complete


[ LOG EXCERPT ENDS ]


Has anyone else got this? This is Idola Friedberg and Helen Carrick from the Department of Cryptology. Information Theory...

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jalapeno_dude
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 		Same thing as Antony, but I got:
Quote:
[ GATEHOUSE 24 ]

:: start 055814 +000000
:: start 061055 +000000
:: archive location { dev 7 }
:: index { yes }
:: retention { 9 }
:: processing time { 0.53 }
::

A

// labeled A;
// triangulated location mapped;
// passive badge { present }
// badge query { porta, c {112yr} }

Where have you been [?]

// preliminary review complete

B

// labeled B;
// triangulated location mapped;
// passive badge { present }
// badge query { bazeries, l {520yr} }

So I'm a little late [.] Relax [.]

// preliminary review complete
// 45% positive emotional state
// cross reference surveillance footage

{ extrapolated: badge {line 16} extracted }

{ gatekeeper system 24;
active badge interrogated, passed }

PORTA, C

We have to hurry and get this thing done [.]

// preliminary review complete

BAZERIES, L

Is he here yet [?]

// preliminary review complete

PORTA, C

I think so [.] Let's hurry [.]

// preliminary review complete


BAZERIES, L

I hope there's coffee [.]

// preliminary review complete

PORTA, C

Focus on the project [,] dunderhead [.]

// preliminary review complete


[ LOG EXCERPT ENDS ]


That's Camden Porta from Crytology and Lucas Bazeries, also from Crytology, who worked on the Quantum Entanglement paper.

And also:
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[ GATEHOUSE 24 ]

:: start 192355 +000000
:: start 192401 +000000
:: archive location { dev 7 }
:: index { yes }
:: retention { 9 }
:: processing time { 0.53 }
::

A

// labeled A;
// triangulated location mapped;
// passive badge { present }
// badge query { ashford, r {737yr} }

Hey [,] wait up [.]

// preliminary review complete

B

// labeled B;
// triangulated location mapped;
// passive badge { present }
// badge query { wooster, m {019yr} }

Oh [,] sorry [.] Hard meeting today [.]

// preliminary review complete
// 23% positive emotional state
// cross reference surveillance footage

{ extrapolated: badge {line 16} extracted }

{ gatekeeper system 24;
active badge interrogated, passed }

ASHFORD, R

Do you ever wonder [...]

// preliminary review complete

WOOSTER, M

Don't say it [.]

// preliminary review complete

ASHFORD, R

I know [,] I know [.] No place is safe [.]

// preliminary review complete

[ LOG EXCERPT ENDS ]
Mark Wooster from Crypto Security and Rowan Ashford from Discrete Math.

And [quote]

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Antony C
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 		And another with Z M R SW --/ -- -- CO PW FL/ -- -- PW SW RO/ -- -- PR RO RO

No end is required with these by the way


(similar to before)

A

// labeled A;
// triangulated location mapped;
// passive badge { present }
// badge query { ashford, r {737yr} }

Hey [,] wait up [.]

So we have Friedberg, Ashford, Bazeries and Porta from Crypto

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jalapeno_dude
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 		Antony: scroll down. There's more off the screen.

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Antony C
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 		There appear to be several ways of getting these. Still trying to fill up as much of the grid as possible to see what I can get!

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jbd
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poozle wrote:
How do we know there are only 4? Surely there could be more?


Quote:
<jalapenodude> so it looks like the result is determined by the number of zones. It also looks like you need at least one rotate for it to work
<jalapenodude> summary of the zone thing:0 zones approached, 1 zone cameras, 2 zone lasers, 3 zones unable to get read handle, 4 zones approached, 5+ zones unable to reset open permissions
<jalapenodude> I'm fairly sure we've found all the messages anyway
<jalapenodude> given that it seems to repeat itself with increasing numbers of zones


Now, it looks like a wrench was thrown into that (see above) but that's what the feeling was last night when we folded up. Wink

A fully detailed description of what the commands do would be nice, now that we essentially have the idea. (See the 'directions' chat right here for what led us to get where we are.)

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Antony C
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 		Judging by the way these conversations are going, I'm guessing these people are being watched under surveillance. It's kind of like how a computer system might record a voice conversation. Big Brother is watching-esque Discussing some kind of project but not saying anything in case they are heard? What could the project be? Bearing in mind it involves quite a few people in crypto.

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 		As I'm sure others have noticed, these messages look to be in the same format as those uncovered way way back in 2004.

They can be seen on the wiki here

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