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[UPDATE] MYSPACE - Mandrake Wig new blog (June 29)
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Wulfgirl
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Evamonkey,

That was a great piece of detective work on the ship. I wonder if the producers of the game thought we'd find out that this ship is archored now and not going anywhere? Thanks for posting that.

Very Happy

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evamonkey
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hahah thanks so much, i was sure id get blasted hahahaha. i just translated the boat name, then ran both through google.

its speculative at best, but since i only saw this whole lost experience for foirst time today had was looking through some official sites, the boat mentions and that pic jumped at me, if it means anything at all. which i doubt it does.

in reality, there was prob months between blog and pic, no rational reason to relate them unless your seeing both in a short time.

will look at other pics

but thanks for making my wild speculaton feel valid! Very Happy

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evamonkey
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ok, here is my next brain fart on images.
the pic grass, with the car in the field. They tyre manufacturer is falcon, which i had never heard of. so i googled.

now it seems to exist.... but the page says its really dunlop tyres name over seas( advert) also, in said page on the left is a small octagonal logo. i could let that go, but....... the fact it listed me as the sites first visitor. if it was an oversees name for dunlop.... wouldnt the have more hits.... than me. thought the amount of google references says tis a real company.


http://www.falcontyres.com/
some names are mentioned and such, wonder if they mean anything.



if anything, it means they car is in a country what used name falcon instead of dunlop. theyre apparently based in india. any clues to be taken from that? cos i only know that brand as dunlop.

..............................................................

pic of seating looks doctored, so seat number tags are missing, no one will ever get seat numbers, but is there possible significance to arrangment of tagless seats.

example, in row 1- 3 tags are visible, row 2- 5 row 3 -7

all primes.

...................................
the airline reference.
hmmmm too bad thet dont have wings.
searched for winged kangaroos,

apparently the original quantos logs had winged kangaroos and this was only changed after 1984 to remove the wings. wonder if thats an intentional reference.
http://www.qantas.com.au/info/about/history/details19

what i can say for sure, is that these pictures show a pattern of possible movment , india for the tyres, the korean food( isint there mention of a hanzo facility there?) buenos aries. This guy has moved, a lot i think. could he be investigating hanzo sites. Is it possible that sun's father is related to the asian branch?

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SpiralBoundBook
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Cavalos wrote:
danteIL wrote:
picture I've seen yet in this game. Seriously, you have to see it to believe it. Anyway, it's titled Bole with pie and has the mysterious caption Get a clue: Direct observation or participation?

So is this supposed to lead us to our next clue in the ROT word trail?

Sounds like a crossword puzzle clue. I'd say maybe the word experience is a possible answer - it could be defined both as observation and participation.

From Merriam-Webster online:
Main Entry: ex·pe·ri·ence
Function: noun
1 a : direct observation of or participation in events as a basis of knowledge
But "Your Next Video Needs Your Experience"
sounds kinda lame... maybe because they are limited to the words that appear on the Verizon webpage?
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evamonkey
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hmmm , hows this for a thought.

the text box on bole with pie says direct observation or participation.

my answer is

participation.

hes posing a question based on the optical illusion presented in the image. which is whether the character behind is observing(direct observation) from behind a wall or participating. The truth lies in the fact that the character behind is a mirror image. the hair is a mirror of the other image of him in the pics list. the mirror is resting so that is at a slight upward angle, making the mirrored character look shorter than he is. The angle of shot does not prevent the mirror from hiding a camera in the reflected characters other hand.

so its mandrake that took that pic, even thought it looks like he is observing, he is interacting.

what that signifies, i have no idea.
the whole image seems heavily doctored though. cos if its a genuine refoection, the character with pie should have at least a little of his shoulder reflected.and the lighting on pie guys head does not match the body. thath whole area to left of bole looks very wrong.
almost positive the blue object is a heating radiator. if mandrake is meant to be in a reflection its poorly done, if hes meant to be behind bole, its poorly done.

what do you think?

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Would make more sense as a WORD.

"Welcome, your next video needs your participation"

can anyone find it on rbd.com?
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Gus Raja
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evamonkey wrote:
this is my first post on anything like this, so, lol, be gentle. i have been reading some of the sites listed as official and this struck me.


MITTELWERK: Minsu, so great to see you.
MINSU: Dr. Mittelwerk. Good to see you too. Mr. Paik sends his warmest regards.
MITTELWERK: He's just saying that because we've paid him so much money.
MINSU: Ah. I see that it's straight to business.
MITTELWERK: As always.
MINSU: I think you'll be pleased to hear your ship is almost ready; with all the modifications. But I have to warn you - this kind of ship can't dock just anywhere.
MITTELWERK: We have a port. How long will it be?
MINSU: I'd say no sooner than three weeks.
MITTELWERK: Could you pass the pepper? So what will it take to make it 2 weeks?


this is not referring to the construction of a ship, but rather a refit. And a ship with quite a bit of mass if it cant just dock anywhere. which jumped back at me, when i saw this picture from the photo archive mentioned on this topic.

http://static.flickr.com/57/177055895_d77b415da4.jpg?v=0

...i just traced the ship , shes currently a art gallery in buenos aries.

http://www.enjoy-argentina.org/argentina-pictures/spanish/buenos_aires-barrio_la_boca-buque_vapor_de_la_carrera_002.php

http://www.photostocksource.com/la-boca-ship-panorama-1.php?HIRES

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This ship used to ferry daily between BA and Montevideo, now houses an art gallery and restaurant
La Boca, Buenos Aires, Argentina



This picture caught my eye because of where it's docked. When we were given those island shots in Lake Superior, there was a bit of spec that the "port" mentioned in the conversation above might be somewhere near there. Soon it became obvious to me that if this was the case, most likely the port itself was in Duluth Minnesota. So I researched the city a little, and one thing that stood out was the lift bridge in the background.

Compare the archived photo of the ship to the lift bridge in Duluth Harbor...







So what was a ship known for ferrying between Buenos Aires and Montevideo--a ship that's now a restaurant in Buenos Aires--doing docked at some port in Duluth, Minnesota?

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Gus Raja wrote:
So what was a ship known for ferrying between Buenos Aires and Montevideo--a ship that's now a restaurant in Buenos Aires--doing docked at some port in Duluth, Minnesota?


Huh?? I think that things have gone waaay off base with some of these leaps of logic. The Lake Superior stuff has been rejected by Rachel. The other pics on Mandrake's blog appear to be random images borrowed from another flickr user. Putting those two questionable things together is probably not the right way to go...

EDIT: Believe what you want about Lake Superior. True, Mittelwerk was carrying those pictures. So, either the PMs goofed and didn't expect us to find them or those pics were planted as a red herring. But the fact of the matter is that the storyline seems to be leading toward "the equator" instead, so at some point one has to go with what seems most relevant to the story. Duluth ain't it.

Also, that picture of the ship has been identified as being docked in Buenos Aires Argentina. Here is the original flickr picture: http://www.flickr.com/photos/elaineck/85489911/

No way is that the same bridge. I'm just trying to head off a wild goose chase.

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danteIL wrote:
Gus Raja wrote:
So what was a ship known for ferrying between Buenos Aires and Montevideo--a ship that's now a restaurant in Buenos Aires--doing docked at some port in Duluth, Minnesota?


Huh?? I think that things have gone waaay off base with some of these leaps of logic. The Lake Superior stuff has been rejected by Rachel. The other pics on Mandrake's blog appear to be random images borrowed from another flickr user. Putting those two questionable things together is probably not the right way to go...



I don't think she ever rejected the "Lake Superior stuff." She just said she ALSO noticed something about an island near 0 degrees lattitude. The simple fact of matter is, Mittelwork was indeed carrying pictures of those islands in Lake Superior. How can that just be rejected?

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theShaggy wrote:
Would make more sense as a WORD.

"Welcome, your next video needs your participation"

can anyone find it on rbd.com?




The only thing I can think of where you are actually participating in something is if you go to the www.verizonfios.com and click on "play with fios."

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i would say, that the bridge you have there is not the correct one.
designs like this all share a very common look, doe to the engineering principals in their construction, and their utilitarian design for strength to weight reasons.

if you look at the bridge in your pic, vesrus the one in the official blog pic, you can see some design differences. your birdge has spike like projections on its top most surfaces at both ends. The official design does not.

the official bridges construction also features thick prominent vertical beams along its upper curve. your bridge is missing these but has some very spidery ones.

just below the dot in www.cgstock in your pic, you see a vertical structure that links the top sections to the support legs. On the ship pics, the bridge has an overhang of the top element on either side of the legs , showing no such vertical elements as in your bridges silhouette.

your bridge has two large solid forms at the connection between top section and legs, these are absent in the pics with ship.

finally , counting the box sections of top piece in your pic shows a 9 section build between the legs. the official bridge has at least 11.

lastly, in your bridge, it is relativly alone in place, where as in the official pic a very large scaffolded object that can almost look like tis part of the bridge because it intersects its silhouette is part of a second bridge behind the first, the top bean of which can be seen just between the boat and the front bridges top span, due to atmospheric fog, it will appear a slightly lighter colour. this bridge would be clearly visible in your shot if it was the same location, as it has very distinctive fully cladded areas on its legs that would show up in your pic as large dark rectangles at the base of a bridge behind your current one.



i really thing, these are 2 very different bridges when you get down to fine details. if im wrong please correct me.



in all images featuring the vessel, including real out of game sites, a tower block can be seen on the left of the boat, its very distinctive. it has light tone in the middle and dark grey sections either side. This proves that in the official pics, where it is currently a museum to this day, it is located in the same place as in blog pic. This establishes that the boat is where it always was.

i agree that the relevance of the pic is becoming less substabtial, and is probably a dead end.

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evamonkey wrote:
...finally , counting the box sections of top piece in your pic shows a 9 section build between the legs. the official bridge has at least 11...these are 2 very different bridges when you get down to fine details.



OK, I agree with you. Some of the stuff is hard to tell with the actual pic so far off, but the 9 versus 11 sections across the top structure confirms it for me. Thanks for clarifying your point in detail as opposed to just rejecting my idea outright. In fact, with you pointing out it's in the same place--that being Buenos Aires--I believe this is the actual bridge from the "official picture"...



From the write-up: "...here in La Boca [the original port of Buenos Aires] we find two cool bridges next to each other, Puente Transbordador (Transporter Bridge) built in 1914 and Puente Nicolas Avellaneda, built in 1940. A very nice pair of bridges with lots of rusty old steel."

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yep, you can see all the features and the bridge behind with the solid leg sections. its a match im guessing.

there was no point in rejecting any idea out of hand. this whole game is sorting fact from fiction through discussion and observation.

were all sifting the desert with a pan handling tray, any possible links must be put forward and explored thoroughy in both directions, otherwise nuggets could slip through. and folks like nuggets. You could have been right in another life brother. ( i dont know why, but i felt compelled to phrase it like that)
the buenos aries thing may not be totally random at all. its tying a lot of the random pics together.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
and portugese, the language spoken by observers in finale ice station, is listed as a spoken language in argentina. coincidence now , but something to watch, along with a million other things.


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evamonkey wrote:
[Season Finale]

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
and portugese, the language spoken by observers in finale ice station, is listed as a spoken language in argentina. coincidence now , but something to watch, along with a million other things.



Good point. Also, as it ties into that season finale episode...

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Maybe these pictures of Argentina are about someone we've been forgetting. Namely, Penelope. Is she residing in Buenos Aires, and is it possible she'll be brought up in the near future as a game character?


BTW, when does the show end in England? Will this game still be going on by then?

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england is way way behind, ireland is only a few eps from the finale, but to be honest, 90 percent of the people i have spoken to can barley wait the amount of time it takes for it to get online from the US showing. i think the whole net world is playing on the american timeline.

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