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[UPDATE] stophanso.rachelblake- Italy Post 03 July 5
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 		Re: [UPDATE] stophanso.rachelblake- Italy Post 03 July 5
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Wednesday, July 05, 2006
Italy Post 03

The situation's taken yet another turn.

I followed Mittelwerk into town this morning, hoping this would be the moment of truth... that the world would finally lay eyes on the mysterious Enzo Valenzetti.

But it wasn't to be. Pretty soon, I realized we were heading elsewhere, and I have to admit, I was more than a little confused when we pulled into the parking lot of Sanremo Mercy Memorial Hospital (at least, I think that's the translation).

Mittelwerk went into the hospital - entered the Alvar Hanso Center for Advanced Medical Sciences (yeah, this is one of those HANSO HOSPITALS) along with a couple of his black-suited minions. A couple hours later, he came out. Shook hands with a nurse, let's call her Sophia, and left.

Nurse Sophia wouldn't talk to me. In fact, she tried to usher me out. But I think you know as well as I do. Everyone has their price. Listen to THIS.
oli wrote:
Rachel gives us a link to:

http://www.channel4.com/thisisaknife

If you watch the long and not very funny video on this site, you'll eventually get a clue from Rachel. For those with less patience:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

Go to http://www.channel4.com/lost

There's a hidden link on the left hand side of the page, below all the other links:

http://www.channel4.com/entertainment/tv/microsites/L/lost/assets/blake.mp3


Not sure what's worse... the fact Mittelwerk just had all the blood in his body replaced? Or, the fact that I'm not really all that surprised?

Of course, the question on everybody's lips (or the one that should be) is, "WHY WOULD HE DO THAT?"

It's a head-scratcher, I know.

And, while I haven't had too much time to wrap my brain around this one, as I see it, there are at least a few reasons why you might get an exchange transfusion:

1) You have a legitimate medical condition, like jaundice or sickle-cell anemia.

Let's assume this ISN'T the case for Mittelwerk.

2) You're a crazy health-nut who has unlimited funds and access to the world's more experimental life-extension technologies.

Not TOO far-fetched, considering, but still... I think there's more to it, like -

3) You have something inexplicably wrong with your blood, maybe not a disease per se, but... If you remember, ALVAR HANSO seems to have a problem with HIS BLOOD - could whatever it is be "going around" at The Hanso Foundation?

Now, while I kinda like this explanation, the writing on the wall points to this one, as well:

4) Along with an insane number of inoculations, you're preparing your body for some sort of hell-on-earth conditions.

Yeah. So, that's all I've got. If you've got other theories, I'd love to hear them... but...

Whatever the reason or reasons for Mittelwerk's little out-patient hospital visit, if we take a step back and examine all of this, it's pretty clear Mittelwerk is going to this island he referenced in that email (see Monday's post).

Now, why an island requiring six hundred injections and an exchange transfusion would be the desired location for this SPIDER PROTOCOL eludes me. But, I think I just heard the starter pistol.

I don't know if I can stop them.

If Nurse Sophia hasn't informed on me already, it's only a matter of time before she does. I've checked out of the hotel, and I'm duct-taping myself to Mittelwerk's every move.

We can't lose him again. GidgetGirl, if you know any more, NOW is the time to tell.

The rest of you, you know the drill. Post those comments!

posted by Rachel Blake @ 1:04 PM

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 		[UPDATE] stophanso.rachelblake- Italy Post 03 July 5
Rachel gives us a link to:

http://www.channel4.com/thisisaknife

If you watch the long and not very funny video on this site, you'll eventually get a clue from Rachel. For those with less patience:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

Go to http://www.channel4.com/lost

There's a hidden link on the left hand side of the page, below all the other links:

http://www.channel4.com/entertainment/tv/microsites/L/lost/assets/blake.mp3


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 		Transcript of the discuss between Rachel and the Nurse. Thanks to "megaprime33"
Spoiler (Rollover to View):

Nurse: Did you bring the money?

Rachel: Yeah, I brought it

Nurse: That's all of it? Give it to me.

Rachel: Wait a second

Nurse: No money, no information.

Rachel: Look, I'll give you the money, but I need to know you're for real first. What was Mittlework doing at the hospital.

Nurse: I don't know any Mittlework.

Rachel: Do you have any idea what these people are doing?

Nurse: Why should I care?

Rachel: I guess you shouldn't, thanks. Good bye.

Nurse: Wait, he was getting treatements.

Rachel: What kind of treatements? Why?

Nurse: You don't want to be looking into these people. I'm sure you have a mother that cares about you.

Rachel: My mother's dead. She cared very much about me, but she's gone.

Nurse: Is that why you're doing this?

Rachel: Yes, it is.

Nurse: We gave him a blood treatement, an exchange transfusion.

Rachel: Is that what it sounds like?

Nurse: We replaced his blood with fresh blood.

Rachel: Why would someone do that?

Nurse: I need my money.

Rache: You said treatements, what else?

Nurse: We gave him injections, vaccinations mainly.
Hep A, B, DTP, measels, different kinds of flus,
typhoid, yellow fever, and they were proprietory formalation (??)

Rachel: I don't understand, where would you be going that you would need so many vaccinations?

Nurse: You don't have enough money for me to tell you that.
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 		Here's a bit of spec (Spoilered just in case):

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Rachel says her mother is dead. She also says that the reason she is doing this is because her Mother is dead.

The question is, of course, how long has she been dead? Perhaps Rachel's mother is the original P, the one who was hacking thf.org. The Foundation had her killed, and Rachel picked up her identity.

It's quite possible. Hell, perhaps P had all the hacks in place already, then she was killed. She left instructions behind, and Rachel activated the hacks for her on the dates she asked her to.


Hmm....

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 		Re: [UPDATE] stophanso.rachelblake- Italy Post 03 July 5
danteIL wrote:
Odd thing about the hospital document that is linked in Rachel's blog here:

Quote:

Mittelwerk went into the hospital - entered the Alvar Hanso Center for Advanced Medical Sciences (yeah, this is one of those HANSO HOSPITALS)


Compare this to the "same" documents that we saw originally, in the microfiche hack on THF.org (from LostPedia):

Organ Harvesting

The Retraction

Look at these documents side by side and some glaring differences emerge. First, obviously, the images have changed. Not all of the images are different, but for instance the original x-ray scan familiar to us from thf.org is gone, as are the pictures of Joop and Dr. Amy Honale.

But the most puzzling thing is the fact that the dates on the newspapers have changed completely, from May 26 and May 29 2006 to November 9 and 11 2001.

I can think of at least two possible implications of this:

1) Given that the dates now precede the supposed dates of the chat between OpenersHep and wtkFleet35, this makes it possible that these documents are part of the missing_organs.zip file. The previous dates made this impossible.

2) This also makes it seem less likely that Rachel and Persephone are the same person, because why then why would she give us two different versions of the same documents? Unless, the original microfiche documents were from some other person -- recall that the microfiche was one of the places where we saw messages left for Persephone by some mysterious 3rd party.


I really really hope it's not just a screw up.
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 		Re: [UPDATE] stophanso.rachelblake- Italy Post 03 July 5
Odd thing about the hospital document that is linked in Rachel's blog here:

Quote:

Mittelwerk went into the hospital - entered the Alvar Hanso Center for Advanced Medical Sciences (yeah, this is one of those HANSO HOSPITALS)


Compare this to the "same" documents that we saw originally, in the microfiche hack on THF.org (from LostPedia):

Organ Harvesting

The Retraction

Look at these documents side by side and some glaring differences emerge. First, obviously, the images have changed. Not all of the images are different, but for instance the original x-ray scan familiar to us from thf.org is gone, as are the pictures of Joop and Dr. Amy Honale.

But the most puzzling thing is the fact that the dates on the newspapers have changed completely, from May 26 and May 29 2006 to November 9 and 11 2001.

EDIT: One other interesting change across the two versions of these documents. In the original article about organ harvesting, the pharmaceutical agent mentioned as being involved in the preservation of organs for transport was called Vialex. In today's new version of the same document, this pharmaceutical agent is called Viacor. Again, this seems very odd.

I can think of at least two possible implications of all this:

1) Given that the dates now precede the supposed dates of the chat between OpenersHep and wtkFleet35, this makes it possible that these documents are part of the missing_organs.zip file. The previous dates made this impossible.

2) This also makes it seem less likely that Rachel and Persephone are the same person, because why then why would she give us two different versions of the same documents? Unless, the original microfiche documents were from some other person -- recall that the microfiche was one of the places where we saw messages left for Persephone by some mysterious 3rd party.

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 		Why do we have two different versions of both a newspaper article and its retraction? Rachel Blake gave us the one from 2001, and Persephone gave us the one from 2006. Why are they different? What's the point?

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 		Well, this is totally meaningless because the company looks quite real and utterly out of game, but I do like the picture on Viacor, Inc.'s home page (Viacor makes a cardiac valve repair system to treat congestive heart failure patients afflicted with mitral regurgitation.): http://www.viacorinc.com/index.html

Yes, that is very weird about the documents - somebody for some reason was making up fake stuff and couldn't leave well enough alone so made multiple versions?

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matt_the_pale wrote:
Why do we have two different versions of both a newspaper article and its retraction? Rachel Blake gave us the one from 2001, and Persephone gave us the one from 2006. Why are they different? What's the point?
Pure spec based on the comments I'm reading at TLEC, but I've a funny feeling a copy of this article (or a reference to the incident depicted therein) is going to make an appearance in the TV show's season 3, and the 2006 date just didn't gibe with the show's timeline.

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 		i really hope this isn't a screw up...the PMs HAVE to be smarter than that.
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danteIL wrote:
matt_the_pale wrote:
I would just like to point out that she changed the newspapers back to the original without ANY EXPLANATION AT ALL.

http://stophanso.rachelblake.com/img/hospital/hospital.jpg



AUGHHH! You've got to be kidding me? Why doesn't she just go ahead and give us the password to /experiences/check/tomorrow and be done with it. Oh wait, she's already done that too...


I'm still holding out hope that there was something more to this date discrepancy than a screw up.

But it's not looking good.
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 		I would just like to point out that she changed the newspapers back to the original without ANY EXPLANATION AT ALL.

http://stophanso.rachelblake.com/img/hospital/hospital.jpg

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 		I guess that confirms that it was a PM screw-up, no?

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matt_the_pale wrote:
I would just like to point out that she changed the newspapers back to the original without ANY EXPLANATION AT ALL.

http://stophanso.rachelblake.com/img/hospital/hospital.jpg



AUGHHH! You've got to be kidding me? Why doesn't she just go ahead and give us the password to /experiences/check/tomorrow and be done with it. Oh wait, she's already done that too...

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danteIL wrote:
matt_the_pale wrote:
I would just like to point out that she changed the newspapers back to the original without ANY EXPLANATION AT ALL.

http://stophanso.rachelblake.com/img/hospital/hospital.jpg

AUGHHH! You've got to be kidding me? Why doesn't she just go ahead and give us the password to /experiences/check/tomorrow and be done with it. Oh wait, she's already done that too...

Well, just in case, I've noted it to LostPedia:
http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Rachel_Blake_Italy_03#Oddities
I just wish someone would tell us whether or not this is a mistake so that we can move on.

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