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[UPDATE] metacortechs garbled [Nov 1]
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AnthraX101
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At the moment, I'm going to let this stay here. We still have no clear answer if decompiling flash is in-game or not. If something appears to hint one way or the other, we'll deal with it then.

Really, we're not bad guys out to get you.

AnthraX101

EDIT: Clarified.

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yeahyeah
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I take that to mean you aren't sure if it belongs here or in puzzles, or if the garbled swf file was intentional or not?

This started out as just an update (I forgot the [update] tag ;)) And then a bit of sleuthing to figure out if we should be looking for a puzzle or not. As to if it was purposeful, it appears to me that it was, because there are letters missing, and the pictures look different then they usually do.

just my humble thoughts..

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yeahyeah wrote:
I take that to mean you aren't sure if it belongs here or in puzzles, or if the garbled swf file was intentional or not?

This started out as just an update (I forgot the [update] tag Wink) And then a bit of sleuthing to figure out if we should be looking for a puzzle or not. As to if it was purposeful, it appears to me that it was, because there are letters missing, and the pictures look different then they usually do.

just my humble thoughts..


I think the orange thing is supposed to be a pumpkin/jack-o-lantern...

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Well, the orange thing has been present in the metacortex flash file from the beginning. It's not something new. I only mentioned it now because earlier I thought that it was just my computer or my decompiler doing strange things... Very Happy

I also don't see why this would be off-limits if it's perfectly fine to mess with pictures from the sites... I really don't see the distinctive line that is supposed to separate the two. Flash, images, mp3s...they post them, we can mess with them. No? I suppose the difference is that flash has code in it...well, html, flash code, what's the difference? Question

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AcidTWister
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apparently, there was a large electrical storm in Redland last night and caused some outages. i'm not sure if it's what caused the site to become garbled or not.

i got an email from the Beta Test division saying that applicants may have gotten automated phone calls yesterday due to the storm.

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sweet...a cover up Smile

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This article from Beth's little boxes archive has a similar "feel" to the supposed problems of Oct 31st:

http://little-boxes.net/archives/KnowledgeBase/script_view_document.php?data_id=50

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Electromagnetic Interference
Document #50 Status: Debated
Class: Year: 2003, Location: US-Northwest

Summary
Computers located within a 1-mile radius in Redland WA transmit what appears to be a radio broadcast over speakers, along with static and 'ghost' images on the monitors, before completely shutting down. Within sixty seconds all electrical components of any kind also shut down

Details
White-collar workers, when interviewed, report that they think it's probably just some sort of power grid failure of some sort, never mind that the radius has been determined to be nearly perfectly circular (one employee of a financial firm claims that only half the monitor turned off - that is, half the screen remained lit, and the other half, plus the computer tower, shut off immediately. When all power went down, the monitor went completely dead.) All witnesses to the event seem initially quite disturbed by the event, but quickly lose interest in follow-up, and have trouble remembering details within a few days.

July 18, 2003
Redland WA


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I have been trying to compile everything that happened on Halloween, so here it is – mostly in "speculation" format (I possibly forgot some things).

1. The Metacortechs site freaks out. Initially I thought that there is something to be found either in the missing characters or in the "scrambled" characters. For example, there could be extra letters, i.e. those not present in the "normal" page; or maybe there is some significance to the characters that stood alone (didn't have anything on top of them). Those could possibly add up to words/clues. I guess that's out the window.
[EDIT] Can't believe I forgot to THANK yeahyeah (sorry Embarassed Sad ) for piecing them together [EDIT]

However, though it appears that characters were picked out randomly, the "freaked out" flash is actually very ordered visually. We have somewhat of a paradox here: some phenomenon, grounded in a random choice of letters produces what looks anything but chaotic: the very neatly ordered rows and columns. I'd say this is a blatant reference to the phenomena that Beth is chasing: these events should have no pattern to them, yet Beth (and we, i.e. Moriar and xnbomb) are able to predict them. There are also some references in Beth's archives about "loss of randomness".

And then, of course, there is Avery. I am fairly certain at this point that Metacortechs has been hit this way before, and whatever "hit" them messed up Avery's information in the same way it messed up the home page. Many of you noticed that the pictures are affected; so is what is supposed to be Avery's picture (yet in a visually different way). I see 2 possibilities as far as what could have happened last time:
- the whole site was "hit", but everything except Avery's information was quickly fixed
- the "hit" applied only to Avery; in which case it could be what caused him to become "missing"
There is, of course, a question of why they even left that info in the state that it's in, but I suppose we can easily overcome this difficulty with "it was one of the first clues that this is, in fact, a game" or something along those lines.
Given the archive #50 (thanks, backntime), which is dated July 18, 2003, I think it is also possible that Metacortechs "freaked out" even more than twice.


Lastly, regarding the orange thing. I have no idea what to make of it. The fact that somebody actually placed it in a frame – and in the spot that they did - as opposed to just leaving it in the library bugs me. But if it is a clue, I have no idea what it means – "orange/halloween square moon with 2 dots in it smack over Metacortex"? Furthermore, as Omnie points out, that thing is always there – not only in the "freaked out" flash on Halloween. It's always Halloween at Metacortex? Bah…

2. The phone call. I don't think a consensus has been reached by the guys here on what exactly is being said, but I guess there are a few things they are quite certain about:
- Aquapolis
- MLO
- Scratch

I'd add to that my earlier wild guess that Scratch might have had something to do with the addition of screenshots to the logs. I also thought those screenshots might have been what convinced some (all?) of the gang to leave Caesar.

3. The e-mail explaining the phone call. BS! Something did cause the server to randomly dial etc., but it WAS NOT a thunderstorm and it WAS the same thing that caused the site to freak out. Whatever it was, it did not affect their voicemail system, btw.

4. Whatever happened on Halloween was felt at Aquapolis as well.
bakntime wrote:
It's "skipping" November 1st, and in it's place it displays October 2nd. In other words, if I set my system date to October 30th, the cam displays October 31st (31/10/03) just like it "should", but if I set it to October 31st - it says October 2nd (2/10/03). If I set it to November 1st, it then displays November 2nd (2/11/03) like it should.

If I change my system to November 2nd or beyond, it properly displays the date as one day later, but nothing I do is allowing the date to be November 1st --- ie 1/11/03.
from here

I'm not even gonna attempt to explain this now. However, I wonder if the phonecall was pre-recorded or a recording of what was happening at Aqaupolis at the time of the phonecall. The timing screw-up suggests that something happens in Aquapolis on Oct. 31 – could it be reflected in the phonecall?

5. Immediately after the "event" Metacortechs fixes its site – they take out the Labyrinth reference. Again, earlier it was proposed (by a few people, I think, and me among them) that shoving the pattern of events in Beth's face and advising her to take time off was no more than a cover for getting her out of the way. Something was being done to either Labyrinth or Gorgon. The "Labyrinth" scroller led me to believe it was Labyrinth; their taking it out could mean that whatever it is they did, was not successful and/or possibly was the cause of the "freaking out" as well.

6. Ethan was in Seattle and writes to Dina:
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Grrr. Well so much for seeing ya tomorrow. My afternoon meeting was going long and got interrupted by some technical glitch, so we were forced to quit for the day before we were done.

Soooooo, that means we're back together on Monday to finish what we should have been finished with tonight. I pushed for a Saturday meet time, but no go.

Dina, who appears to be the only person so far to feel "something wrong with the world" (as opposed to "deduce" it) does not mention anything "weird" to Ethan. I think if something happened in Chicago, she would have "felt" it. Therefore, if Metacortechs indeed has offices in Chicago, they were not affected. So far, it appears that only Seattle and Mykonos were affected.

6. Beth experiences an event. I agree with Marl that we should give some code name to that dude. Again, I don't think there is a consensus on the interpretation, and I'm not going to go into it here.

However, last I heard from xnbomb is that they were not certain of the next location, though they were leaning towards Umatilla National Forest. I think, given the above it may be likely that, since the "weirdness" was localized around Redmond/Seattle, we can conclude that Beth was in that general area.

My feeling about all of this is that the previously "separate" plotlines are now beginning to converge. Not only in terms of finally getting a real link between Beth/Metacortechs and Caesar & Co, but also in terms of bringing us to the very beginning of the game - something happened to Avery, and it looks to be similar to what happened on Halloween. We know from MLO's files that "neighbors reported noise the night before 2nd event." I suspect that the same kind of "event" is related to Avery's disappearance, the "freaking out" of his info in the directory, the "freaking out" at Metacortechs, and the Labyrinth.
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yanka wrote:
I4. Whatever happened on Halloween was felt at Aquapolis as well.
bakntime wrote:
It's "skipping" November 1st, and in it's place it displays October 2nd. In other words, if I set my system date to October 30th, the cam displays October 31st (31/10/03) just like it "should", but if I set it to October 31st - it says October 2nd (2/10/03). If I set it to November 1st, it then displays November 2nd (2/11/03) like it should.

If I change my system to November 2nd or beyond, it properly displays the date as one day later, but nothing I do is allowing the date to be November 1st --- ie 1/11/03.
from here

I'm not even gonna attempt to explain this now. However, I wonder if the phonecall was pre-recorded or a recording of what was happening at Aqaupolis at the time of the phonecall. The timing screw-up suggests that something happens in Aquapolis on Oct. 31 – could it be reflected in the phonecall?


I'm not so sure that what was happening on that flash movie was "in game"... I think it may have just been an incidental programming error in the flash movie. Something that wasn't "supposed" to be like that.

I wouldn't completely discount that it was on purpose, however, I wouldn't make any assumptions based on it either.

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The greatest feat the devil ever accomplished was to convince the world that he doesn't exist...

I like your line of thought Yanka... but it sparked something off in my wee little brain. Websites don't just fix themselves. Now, I was comfortably asleep in my bed when all of this went down - I didn't even get the 'phone call, but I refuse to be bitter about that - but I think it's safe to assume that the site wasn't freaked out for long. Then all of a sudden its fixed, and a little different from before... almost as if there was someone sitting there waiting for the site to freak out so it could be reloaded.

Someone... or something? More spec in a very specy thread, but the site comes back online before most people can flush their cache sans any reference to Labyrinth? I think our AI doesn't want the world knowing about it...?
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Azathoth666 wrote:

Someone... or something? More spec in a very specy thread, but the site comes back online before most people can flush their cache sans any reference to Labyrinth? I think our AI doesn't want the world knowing about it...?


Maybe spoiler for those that don't pay attention to their network traffic or feel we should look at stuff from inside the browser and nothing else...

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

Slight problem though, the flash file itself never has included the the reference to the labyrinth.. It is loaded by the flash from a website..

http://www.metacortechs.com/tickerhtml.txt

This can be tested by either looking in your cache, watching network traffic (ethereal), looking into the flash..
[/spoiler]

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yeahyeah... I stand corrected. As I do 90% of posting/playing from work, I'm not really in a position to keep tabs on my incomings and outgoings... actually, I don't really care: I'm quite happy for my employer to pay for this bandwidth... Laughing

Still, I find that even more curious: the flash file gets garbled, and when it comes online they've changed the ticker? Can anyone remember what ticker was in use prior to the last update?

Or... [sinister voice] is it a case of a certain AI seeing a chance to hide itself and taking it? [/sinister voice]
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Well, I posted a bit of it before, but I didnt keep an accurate record, I just retyped some of it as it scrolled, and I didn't note all the entries.. :-/

If someone hasn't been to metacortechs since before the 31st, please pm me before going there, we can still recover the data from someones cache.. :)
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bakntime wrote:
I'm not so sure that what was happening on that flash movie was "in game"... I think it may have just been an incidental programming error in the flash movie. Something that wasn't "supposed" to be like that.

I wouldn't completely discount that it was on purpose, however, I wouldn't make any assumptions based on it either.


I'm not sure what you mean. They accidentally loaded a calendar (or however this works) that happened to think that October only has 30 days in it?
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for anyone wondering the differences between the various scroller messages, an anonymous donar sent me the entire collection since the site opened.. I know not everyone digs through all the metacortechs forums, so heres the link
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