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[DISCUSSION] End Game (Part 2)
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tkjdnow
Greenhorn

Joined: 05 Jul 2006
Posts: 8

 		Thanks to everyone. It has been great, but a serious addiction. I have to get back to the real world, instead of spending hours trying to solve the hard puzzles and reviewing the solved ones 3 or 4 times a day. Not to mention the incessant latitude and longitued searches. I wonder how many spread sheets and image files this group has created.

I hope one of you wins. I am in awe of your skills and patience with us dolts. And seriously impressed with the mods. You guys are a trip.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:53 pm
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BenZ86
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 		[quote="DavyJones"][quote="tveek"]Well, I think I screwed my first answer up big time. I tried re-submitting with the answer based on this, but I'm sure it won't get in as several other people have probably already submitted this.

Anyway, here's what I now think is the solution:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):

As most people know, the box lid has 8 numbers based on the number of strokes it takes to make the shapes:

Click here to see image


The inside of the box is solved by fitting the pieces together and taking the number of the ones that don't fit (I had to do this in photoshop because looking at it originally I didn't think it would work):

Click here to see image

This gives you the order of how the numbers on the lid should be, which results in 43642476. Too bad that isn't what I entered the first time Sad[/img]


Wait, the shapes gives u the order of the lib numbers? If this is correct then wouldn't the number be 44342676?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:07 am
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tveek
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Joined: 12 Jul 2006
Posts: 10
BenZ86 wrote:

Wait, the shapes gives u the order of the lib numbers? If this is correct then wouldn't the number be 44342676?


No, here are the numbers paired up:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

Lid : 4, 6, 4, 4, 6, 3, 7, 2
Box: 4, 3, 6, 1, 8, 2, 7, 5

Order them as:

Lid : 4, 3, 6, 4, 2, 4, 7, 6
Box: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8


PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:35 am
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piratesheartturned
Greenhorn

Joined: 12 Jul 2006
Posts: 3
Location: West Milford, NJ

 		If someone from here wins we should all send them our "notes and theries"
GO USA!!!!

ok and the other countries too.... Smile

PHT

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:40 am
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piratesheartturned
Greenhorn

Joined: 12 Jul 2006
Posts: 3
Location: West Milford, NJ
wintergirl wrote:
titi_nicolas wrote:
wintergirl wrote:
titi_nicolas wrote:
in the box (the US one), in the first column, a piece is missing to fill the square completely while this is not the case for the others 7 columns.


Actually, I was able to fill the square completely. Have you tried again?



Send an image of your square.
I checked again and it is obvious that a bit is missing in one column.


Congratulations! You have successfully proved that I need to get my vision checked. You are absolutely right. There is a small piece missing. I think my eye-to-brain connection is a little tired at the moment.

So, to answer your initial question... Yes, this bothers me as well. But what can we do about it?





I used graph paper it helped A LOT!

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:53 am
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Have Faith
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Joined: 16 Jun 2006
Posts: 14
Location: Montana

 		Don't you think these Somewhere symbols could be a language?
Excuse me if someone has mentioned this, but I have read all of the current topics. Don't you think these Somewhere symbols could be a language like Greek? After all, they gave us Chinese symbols. I wonder how long we can stay on Somewhere to play the game, since they probably have three winners by now.

EDIT: Never mind. I see now how the lid "symbols" make squares like inside the box. I still don't understand how the lid gives the order for the numbers in the box. Thanks for your help.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:56 am
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dancebuff
Kilroy

Joined: 13 Jul 2006
Posts: 1

 		SERENITY Lid
Hi, I've never posted here and just registered after reading about the recent lid solution based on strokes. I did something different, which felt right to me, but who knows?

I counted the number of additional strokes it took to change the lid letters to read SERENITY.

This yields ones and twos and a three. Then I applied the numbers from inside the box to get the order. I got the same order numbers as a recent poster, 43618275, counting down columns, not across rows, which did not make sense to me. Anyone else heard of this solution?

I would give anything to be one of the finalists, as it sounds very like "The Amazing Race" at the end -- I love that show! I predicted Castaway Cay from the beginning, so there's some solace in getting one thing right! This was a blast! If anyone knows about other stuff like this please do tell. Cheers to all!

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:32 am
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titi_nicolas
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Joined: 26 Jun 2006
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Quote:

Congratulations! You have successfully proved that I need to get my vision checked. You are absolutely right. There is a small piece missing. I think my eye-to-brain connection is a little tired at the moment.

So, to answer your initial question... Yes, this bothers me as well. But what can we do about it?


I don't know too...
But I also find strange that in Port Royal they say "the Tempest is tamed. The 7 seas named [...] Is it tamed?Are they named? Be sure, make sure, again and again". They really insist on the fact that the 7S and the T which is exactly the password "ssssssst"... that nobody used to find a solution!
So far, I find the propositions too easy...
Why would Volvo wait until July 15th if the code is easy enough to be found in a couple of hours?[/quote]

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:46 am
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atrox
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I don't know too...
But I also find strange that in Port Royal they say "the Tempest is tamed. The 7 seas named [...] Is it tamed?Are they named? Be sure, make sure, again and again". They really insist on the fact that the 7S and the T which is exactly the password "ssssssst"... that nobody used to find a solution!
So far, I find the propositions too easy...
Why would Volvo wait until July 15th if the code is easy enough to be found in a couple of hours?


I'm with ya but I've been staring at this cover for 8+ hours with no progress. My gut feeling says that each character needs to be consensed into a typical 7-segment block number but no standard mirroring, squishing, rotating, union/difference with "SSSSSSST", union/difference with "SERENITY", or union/difference with "SSSSSSST" AND "SERENITY" seems to get anywhere. What works on one, doesn't work on the next and so forth. What really bugs me is the diagnol segment in the 7th character.

In the UK puzzle, you added curved portions to form numbers. In the Japan puzzle, you added tops and bottoms to form numbers. It's just logical that the US puzzle again will form numbers...but how....I think I need to sleep on it.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:16 am
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hazmatto
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 		my solution to the US end game
I entered something that seems different than what people have been saying here. I think counting the number of strokes seems a bit too arbitrary.
What I did is similar to a few posts back about counting the number of additional strokes to change the symbols to SERENITY.

The poem says that you will find the cursed key to get serenity. I thought that a cursed key meant that the symbols were mixed up and missing parts. Each letter in serenity has a symbol that corresponds to it, in other words a symbol that requires the fewest number of changes to get to a letter in serenity. The order is Y - E - E - N - S - I - R - T. You can get this by examining the symbols, the first one is clearly the Y, the one with the diagonal should be the R, the two Es, etc. I counted every line segment that I had to move as one whether or not I moved it to a new position or moved it out of the symbol.
The moves that i got are:
1 - 4 - 0 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 -2
Which seem to be the fewest possible moves to make each letter.
For the I, i get 4 moves whether or not it is an I drawn with the top and bottom.
Then I rearranged them with numbers from the shapes in the box.

Maybe it is correct, maybe not.
Good luck, hope you all had as much fun as I did.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:21 am
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firpo1024
Kilroy

Joined: 29 Jun 2006
Posts: 2

 		Final solution?
Hi thank you everyone for your help. There are two boxes on the island. the one i think one is a rouse. if you look at the one with the skull and crossbones , write down the symbols. i dont know the first letter or symbol but the next are PEUGEOT, i hope this helps someone to win the car. Just remember you can only put you're answer in one time

EDIT: Merging into endgame thread. --Phaedra

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:43 am
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hunterr
Kilroy

Joined: 12 Jul 2006
Posts: 1

 		FINAL UK RESULTS with description and picture
As most people know, the box lid has 8 numbers.

the top and the bottom is missing from the numbers on the lids.if u join the missing bits in the numbers it will read as

38690893

http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pic3joined1ni.jpg


those are the final numbers but the sequence of the numbers can be had from the the box.
The inside of the box is solved by fitting the pieces together and taking the number of the ones that don't fit

which gives the order as 13846257

http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=finalgrid0ro.jpg

http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=finalgrid0ro.jpg http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/1094/finalgrid0ro.th.jpg


so the final string of numbers is 38899036

has anyone from UK submit the above combination in the above sequence.

if anyone indeed has has,let me know i will wish them good luck and not keep my expectation buut if no one hasnt, let me keep dreaming

i am posting the pics in the next 5 minutes..taking time to learn how to upload images.

EDIT: Fixed links, merged with endgame thread. --Phaedra

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:12 am
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titi_nicolas
Boot

Joined: 26 Jun 2006
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 		I also find that counting the strokes in the symbols is too arbitrary... why would'nt you count the intersections instead (which would give 38345261)?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:20 am
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the goon
Boot

Joined: 25 Jun 2006
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 		final solution uk
I went with the same as the vases solution from Pulau Jong. The shadow in the box suggested that down was the way to read the symbols. It took my daughter 3 minutes to sugggest the answer to the lid. and then it was on to the 'Blue Peter' phase as we copied, cut the pieces and made boxes. Hilarious but I felt that after all the puzzles that had gone before Volvo must have known that the solution would be done very quickly. I think that the puzzle was sub standard and should have been a real brain drain where even the collective intelligence of all of us would keep us going for days. I expected a spoof da vinci code inspired process. As the cut and paste process took a couple of hours, I look forward to seeing the winners on Bah!! Castaway island? I hope this is not the unimaginative ending as I ended up in China. Can you imagine : 7 contestants standing on the Great Wall with a Volvo rep pointing in a big circle and handing out spades.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:26 am
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jaykay2
Boot

Joined: 02 Dec 2005
Posts: 21
Location: Holmfirth, West Yorkshire
elandra wrote:
By the way the UK one, the key could have been down rather than along therefore the answer would be 36398809 which has a nicer ring to it, because it is a possible lat long.

I tried both to be sure , my friend did one, i did the other. What time did people write them in it would be nice to know if I was outside the timebox. I wrote it in at 7:58.


That is the number i have entered too!
fingers crossed
cheers everybody
jk

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