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[SPEC] Is Persephone Rachel Blake?
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evamonkey
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Re: Rachel is P? I think not.

Vesta wrote:
Tresbien wrote:
Another possibility is that she is hospital gown girl, perhaps one of the savants. The hack when she said it was hard to "break through" made me think she was not only confined but had difficulty breaking through her own illness to communicate.


My boyfriend and I both felt long ago that the creepy creepy hospital gown girl was, in fact, Persephone. Just a hunch at the time. If she were in a mental hospital, Hanso could have placed her there as a way to SHUTDOWN her prying eyes.

If she were truly mentally ill, especially if she were an autistic savant, she would have great trouble communicating socially (which I don't believe Persephone suffers from). Relatedly, I'm fond of the theory on these boards:

evamonkey wrote:
california is where hurley comes from, and is most likley the same state as the mental hospital he was sent to where another number crunching savant was present, the source of the numbers in lost. Which much like the institute in iceland probaby acted as a normal hospital but had a sub basment area with savant number crunchers.


Recall that the number crunching savant would only repeat the LOST numbers. Even when Hurley and he were playing checkers, he refused or could not communicate in words. Now, granted, Hurley was having his *own* imaginary conversation at the time, but still.

In conclusion, Hanso could very well have shut Persephone in a mental hospital, from which she escaped eventually. But I don't believe that she is debilitated mentally – a little paranoid, but for all we know, it's for a good reason!


hmm, well we know that the modus for hanzo is to use a basment of a real mental hospital they run as a front. If a savant burns out or goes actually mad, maybe theyre just sent upstairs for actual mental rehabilitation, i mean, what visitor would believe them, theyre a patient in a mental hospital. The savants are described as autistic, and the character in hurleys institute did not act like a savant, he acted like someome whos brain was overloaded. Its definitely not autistic savant behaviour.
finally, if hanzo savants burned out, why would they sent them to a non hanzo run mental institite? when it would be far better to keep an eye on them and attempt their recovery/ prevent them from saying anything to a non hanzo employee. Theres far more reason to keep them in their hospitals rather than others. plus, hurley came from a poor background, and the hanzo clicincs are free in accordnce with their mental wellbeing program. all the indicators say that where a LOST numbers related savant is present in mental care, you have a hanzo mental care facility. And remember, from the hanzo jobs, there is some kind of facility in hurleys home state. way too many coincidences to dismiss out of hand.

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I want to revitalize this thread because I think it's still under debate-my thoughts-

That RB IS Persephone, and that although she has some very impressive web designing skills (flash, etc), she's no good at actually hacking random places. I think she used to work for the foundation in a low level capacity- perhaps she was brought in to set up their website- and when she left they didn't fully close off her access. Or perhaps when working there she learned the weaknesses.

Therefore, later, once she had enough evidence to expose them (and was working for Widmore, or even after she had left Widmore and was secure) she went back in and set up all those hacks.

This is why she needed Mel0drama's help to post her videos/audios on other sites- she doesn't know how to get in to those places. Also- I never really got the sense from P that she was really "sleek" or anything- just that we got very polished little updates. I mean, I know *I* sound smarter when I've had a chance to edit myself extensively. Rachel Blake is now almost entirely unfiltered- she has more of a sense of urgency. That fits in with the flavor of Act Two to me.
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SBB that is an interesting take on the Rachel/Persephone dichotomy that we like to flog so much. I think there is a lot of value in your point of view. I mean, I could tell you how to sneak into my office building but I'd be useless trying to sneak into yours.
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SpiralBoundBook wrote:
I want to revitalize this thread because I think it's still under debate-my thoughts-

This is why she needed Mel0drama's help to post her videos/audios on other sites- she doesn't know how to get in to those places. Also- I never really got the sense from P that she was really "sleek" or anything- just that we got very polished little updates. I mean, I know *I* sound smarter when I've had a chance to edit myself extensively. Rachel Blake is now almost entirely unfiltered- she has more of a sense of urgency. That fits in with the flavor of Act Two to me.


I'm glad I'm not the only one to still believe this is under debate, and I agree completely. As Persephone, all Rachel would have been doing is uploading evidence that she had probably been fine-tuning for months, and just sitting behind her computer screen.

But now, she's actually out there, trying to work hands-on with what she knows. It'll be unknown territory with her, and she has to keep on her toes. Even if she didn't have specific access to the Hanso website, she would've had time to work out it's weak spots, and work on the way to hack it. But if people are after her, and possibly tracking where she is, etc, she doesn't have time to waste hacking into various websites, finding their weak spots, etc. That's why she needs help.
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In my opinion, Rachel is the face for a group of people called Persephone.

Let me explain. Rachel is the person who got it going. She recruited WTK (as seen in the openershep log) to help her take down Hanso. I think WTK is the one who executed the hacks under the name of Persephone.

Make sense?
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WTF

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i know, they are all over the forums.... Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Exclamation
and they just wont stop..

edit: nvm, i got deleated....
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Not gonna help either way, but thought I'd add this from Rachel's FAQ;

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Are Rachel Blake and Persephone really the same person?

Yep. Not that I really think my word will stop you arguing about it.

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Vesta
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Jenna wrote:
Not gonna help either way, but thought I'd add this from Rachel's FAQ;

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Are Rachel Blake and Persephone really the same person?

Yep. Not that I really think my word will stop you arguing about it.


Why would she be so defensive if it WERE true? Methinks she doth protest too much.....

Also, she refuses to define what "he sent me to help you" means. Her secrets are still intact, and she aims to keep it that way. What makes the Persephone identity any different? She can lie, like any of us can.

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