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aliendial
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Joined: 29 Sep 2002 Posts: 3438 Location: Far Far Away. Nowhere Near You. Really.
I agree with c1023 the notches are all around the edge of the card - not out to the edge but in where the dotted lines end. But rather than bring the thread back through the next notch, I assume it comes back through the center of the card. So I assume we need to measure the length of half the lines on the front, then double (=length of all lines on one side) double again(=length front and back), then times 4. I think.
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:01 am
Snr Weaver
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Joined: 21 Apr 2006 Posts: 30
Seems to me that there is a deliberate attempt to force perspective with this card, meaning that we are looking down some sort of cylidrical loom, (The kind of thing they would make socks / stockings with) so the length of the printed "threads" would be underterminable. The numbering of the threads with beads (or pin heads?) would seem to be the logical thing to concentrate on. But I'm stuffed if I know what you're supposed to do with them!
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:10 am
manleym
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Joined: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 197 Location: Norwich UK
I think i have seen something like this before,
Has anyone tried to start from the centre of the card and then work there way around the pegs going back to the centre each time a peg has been passed?
I will be attempting this when i get back from the post office
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:10 am
Blackcobain
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Joined: 29 Jul 2006 Posts: 5
Well it's not
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1, 2 or 3
I'm just going to try this methodically for a while. I don't care how long it takes.
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 10:02 am
Grimey
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Joined: 02 Aug 2006 Posts: 6
Quote:
Has anyone tried to start from the centre of the card and then work there way around the pegs going back to the centre each time a peg has been passed?
Just tried my attempt at this...
Split the card into four quadrants, running diagonally across the card (so 1-20 across the top and 21-48 down the side). Measure all the way across the card to the opposite side and added them up, which gave me
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6452 mm
From there, it's four times per notch, which to me meant
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Multiply the above by 8... as in, through the notch, then the middle of the card
So...
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51616 / 1000 ~= 52m
Didn't work... then thinking that that amount of thread would cause it to bunch up, tried 53 and 54 as well. No joy. Hopefully I didn't screw anything obvious up, and the puzzle is just better than that...
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:10 am
Grimey
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Joined: 02 Aug 2006 Posts: 6
...and assuming that you're only supposed to count the lines numbered 1-6 with the orange dots, that gives you
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3248, which ~3m, which Blackcobain has already discounted
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:24 am
hendo77
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Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 51
I can confirm it is NOT:
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21 or 22
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:07 pm
thereverendeg
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Joined: 16 Jul 2006 Posts: 74 Location: Rochester, NY
Grimey wrote:
...and assuming that you're only supposed to count the lines numbered 1-6 with the orange dots, that gives you
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3248, which ~3m, which Blackcobain has already discounted
Wait,
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3248mm or 3248cm? Because 3248cm is ~32m not 3
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:10 pm
Grimey
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Joined: 02 Aug 2006 Posts: 6
thereverendeg wrote:
Wait,
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3248mm or 3248cm? Because 3248cm is ~32m not 3
Sorry - should have been specific. All my initial measurements were in mm.
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:25 pm
fretty
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Joined: 19 Nov 2004 Posts: 281 Location: South Yorkshire, England
Confirmed solve:
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I used pythagorus to get the lengths in terms of notches, multiplied it by 4 and then by 0.5 as each notch is 0.5cm. Then when converted to meters I got an answer of 36m
Whew, this card was silly.
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:46 pm
aliendial
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Joined: 29 Sep 2002 Posts: 3438 Location: Far Far Away. Nowhere Near You. Really.
I don't understand. But thanks!
"lengths in terms of notches"?
and then "multiplied by 0.5" (i.e. halved it?)
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:58 pm
hendo77
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Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 51
Thank you! Although I still don't fully understand...
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where you start with the thread and where exactly it goes...
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 1:01 pm
Bendover
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Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 111 Location: San Jose
fretty wrote:
Confirmed solve:
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I used pythagorus to get the lengths in terms of notches, multiplied it by 4 and then by 0.5 as each notch is 0.5cm. Then when converted to meters I got an answer of 36m
Whew, this card was silly.
could you elaberate on what notches you used?the ones with the beads only?
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:29 pm
almagest
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Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 45 Location: London
I still do not get this. The answer works, but why?
Note that the solve box does not say the answer is in metres, it just tells you not to input the units. The answer certainly cannot be in metres, it would be far too big. But it is hard to see how it could be cm either. Taking things like 8x the distance from the centre to the labelled notches gives around 323cm, which does not work as cm or as m. Going from labelled notch to labelled notch does not work. Ignoring the labels and going fom the centre to every notch does not seem to work either.
fretty, could you explain more precisely what you did? I got 323cm from what I think you did!
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:31 am
Allattar
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Joined: 03 Aug 2006 Posts: 8
A little confused also.
I know you have to take a thread through each point 4 times.
But do we take a thread from the centre?
Do we start at the one notch point, then move to the two notch then three then four etc... and back to one again?
Do we just join notches? or are we returning to the centre each time.
Confused.
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:53 am
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