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Muffin

Just a thought...

The matrix was invented by the machines after they became sentient and fought the humans - they only needed us as batteries AFTER we scorched the skies - therefore they wouldn't require a matrix to keep us in!

Therefore, following that logic, if this ARG is matrix related, we must be IN the matrix, otherwise these things wouldn't happen.

Or maybe not...

**Posted:** Wed Nov 05, 2003 6:55 am

XtRaVa

This game most likely does take place inside the matrix. But I dont understand what you are saying at all, we know the matrix was created after we scorced the skies...where is it said that this game would prove otherwise? The two possibilities are that this game takes place before AI was created (and its now being created)...which means we havnt scorched the skies yet because they are only just creating AI (but I doubt this is true, too many things to show its taking place in the matrix). The other possibility, is that this is inside the matrix, and metacotex are inventing AI. I'm sorry, but I dont know what logic you are talking about, what you just said is a fact, I dont know how you are using it to explain something, what theory are you trying to debunk?

Smile

**Posted:** Wed Nov 05, 2003 7:26 am

ParityBit

**Posted:** Wed Nov 05, 2003 7:36 am

Muffin

Hmmm

Good points

I think I was trying to disagree with someone who posted previously who said that it (this narrative) could be happening before the matrix is/was created - but now am not sure Confused

Never mind - your explanation sums up what I think anyway! Smile

**Posted:** Wed Nov 05, 2003 7:41 am

XtRaVa

Okay cool, as long as you understand what you meant, (I do that a lot..."Well, I know what I mean anyway!" lol)

I think we have come to the conclusion its taking place inside the matrix, and metacortex just happens to be developing AI, and a Virtual World for it to "live" in (just so happens they are making the same sort of thing which they themselves are living in, without knowing of course)

Pretty good story line so far. Smile

**Posted:** Wed Nov 05, 2003 7:48 am

Moatie · Boot Joined: 17 Oct 2003 Posts: 52

**Posted:** Wed Nov 05, 2003 9:54 am

XtRaVa

We have come to the conclusion, that it is very possible this man is the AI metacortex are working on (Minotaur), one thing though...do we believe he got out of Labyrinth due to a thunderstorm? That would make sense...but then isnt it slightly convenient he meets beth. We know that she was predicting the next place for a glitch to occur, so maybe minotaur is being sent (whether or not deliverately we dont know) to each of these places, causing the interference (or goes because of the interference) with the matrix, and thats why beth happens to see him. I guess its something like that...now, the question is...does kat and/or marcus know that the thing she saw, was in fact minotaur, and if so...did they want her to find it, or will they now want to cover everything up, and "silence" beth.

Some interesting things to think about, possible story plots etc...sweet Smile

**Posted:** Wed Nov 05, 2003 10:10 am

WedgeGold

This guy

**Posted:** Wed Nov 05, 2003 11:21 am

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I just want to make sure we're all singing from the same song book... AI Man is the Minotaur... forget how he gets a body at this stage.

Are we happy to conclude that Minotaur is also the hacker .bh?

The only thing I don't like about the latter theory is the other hackers seem to mostly ignore .bh when it crops up in their dialogs... (mind you I could be wrong, it's been a while since I read the transcripts so I'm working from my notoriously vague memory here...).

**Posted:** Wed Nov 05, 2003 5:16 pm

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**Posted:** Wed Nov 05, 2003 8:06 pm

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**Posted:** Thu Nov 06, 2003 4:47 pm

Zimbu

[WILD NEWBIE SPEC]

Assume Jesse is Ceaser/Seizure. He's signed up for these Metacortex game betas. The game is a VR machine, and a cover for researching/reading the human mind to build/research AI. Jesse has been beta testing this thing, and getting seizures, and getting himself disconnected from reality. He was the one in the woods and attempted to talk to Beth. His conversations were translated into markup language by the PDA.

Jesse's parents had their memories wiped so they wouldn't go looking for their lost son, but there is residual memories there that they are finding it hard to cope with. Ethan (poss Avery) foresaw this somehow(?) and left clues to remind himself.

Yes, it's wild wild wild, and probably woefully uninformed speculation. But my brain is begginning to break dammit, and I need answers before I start having seizures and fall into the Matrix myself.

**Posted:** Sat Nov 08, 2003 11:06 am

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Tobester · Veteran Joined: 05 Oct 2003 Posts: 136

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Zimbu

Tobestar, kind words in reply of what was basically... a mental enema

Thanx tho... Wink

**Posted:** Sat Nov 08, 2003 12:17 pm

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**Posted:** Sat Nov 08, 2003 3:31 pm