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[Water Set] Silver #255 - Clinical Explanation
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Snr Weaver
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Thanks Ahdok, I've noticed that most of my wave 4's have similar "defects" it just seemed more deliberate on this card.

Just checked out the solve page for those without the card, the answer we require is two words.

Anyone see the significance of the symbols. They repeat so often that the actual reading of the symbols in any order couldn't mean anything. Perhaps they are just a clue as to how to re-arrange them so that the colours paint a picture "Loopy Pictures" style.

If we re-arranged them in another grid I suspect that they would be 13 x 7 instead of the current arrangement (the only prime factors of 91). I'll go through them tonight and transpose them onto an Excel sheet with English characters for each symbol as they are quite hard to distingush from the scan, some very small differences in symbols. (MC permitting)

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domroberts
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I have the kodansha kanji learners dictionary, they're not in there. the top left symbol wasn't on the lookup tool above, so I'm guessing several of them aren't. I think these are complex medical terms or something weird.


These are definitely Chinese ideograms, rather than Japanese Kanji.

Dom

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Kradlum
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batgirl wrote:
The thing that stands out to me other than the colours is the fact that the bottom row only has one character(?) on it.... and it looks like its a different colour as well. Maybe this one will be the key in how to interpret what the words mean?


The card should be read horizontally, judging by the background and the signature, so I think it is the top row with 1 extra character rather than a bottom row with a single character.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:42 am
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BBuck
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Kradlum wrote:
The card should be read horizontally, judging by the background and the signature, so I think it is the top row with 1 extra character rather than a bottom row with a single character.


I agree that the card should be read horizontally, which would be the right way up for the characters. But there's two ways to read Chinese: top to bottom, right to left, as well as the western style left to right, top to bottom. If the former is the case here, then this might explain the single character, which would be the final one of the 91.

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Snr Weaver
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Vons clue:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

Make sure you read in the correct direction


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domroberts
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I agree that the card should be read horizontally, which would be the right way up for the characters. But there's two ways to read Chinese: top to bottom, right to left, as well as the western style left to right, top to bottom. If the former is the case here, then this might explain the single character, which would be the final one of the 91.


You need to read top to bottom, right to left. I'm not convinced that some of the characters are actually genuine characters, I think they are erroneous, perhaps designed as red herrings. I still have no idea as to the relevance of the nine (thats right, count 'em!) colours on the card.

I've been making a lot of progress on this one, but I'm not sure as yet if I'm barking up the wrong tree.

Dom

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Kradlum
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I asked my Chinese friends and they said it is meaningless as some of the "words" are only half formed. They thought that might have something to do with the puzzle though.

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almagest
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There seem to be 7 different colours and 7 different shapes. As some one observed above, some of the shapes seem to be incomplete versions of others.

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domroberts
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There are actually 9 colours, two of the blues and reds are very similar but not the same shades. The incomplete characters dont appear to have any meaning at all!

I can't work out why the colours are there at all, perhaps we are looking at a cipher here?

My own track on this was a wild one, but all the suggestions I had have proved incorrect. I'm a bit sleepy to discuss those now, but I'll be back in the next few days to share notes.

Dom

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situp
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chinese medicine?

Going back to earlier posts, could the answer be as simple as identifying the nature of the plant in the background?

The title of the card and the content of some of the words suggests a foodstuff that is also beneficial in chinese medicine.

Maybe this could be useful?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_herbology

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mobius
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I'd had similar thoughts and looked at that page already, I couldn't find any remotely similar characters and I couldn't see any link between the herbs and the puzzle, but I could be wrong. Also I can barely speak a first language so my Chinese might be a bit rubbish.

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fretty
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I can't find any of the symbols anywhere. Where has everyone else found them?

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mobius
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BBucks link posted earlier, but I find it difficult without knowing the chinese system in the first place even searching for them.

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yggdrasila
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Ignoring the language of the symbols yields some interesting results. It's looking a lot like a graph to me (see attachments) ...perhaps the output of some kind of clinical equipment?

The second image replaces the Chinese characters with symbols Circle, Square, and Triangle, with their hollowed out versions noting the "incomplete" symbols (ones with lines missing.)

The first (awfully rough, but you'll get the idea) image traces the color lines. You'll note that the "bright" colors on the card show up where lines intersect. Color Dodge layer blending in Photoshop produces these same colors (or close, I didn't match the character color exactly) where there is overlap.

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devjoe
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The hollow symbols above (representing characters that are missing a part)
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
form the letters shi


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