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[EMAIL] Peter - Aug 3 - WotW, Frustration, Ghost Hunters
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Sandra
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 		[EMAIL] Peter - Aug 3 - WotW, Frustration, Ghost Hunters
Here's the first letter I got from Peter today:

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Sandra,

Of course I asked the Woods Walker all sorts of questions, but he seems
to think that email only works one way. Here's an excerpt of my
frustrated ramblings to him, back around email #3 I think:

-----
Look man, if you have to go and bother someone, I know like a hundred
people out there who would be happy to get acid-inspired email every week. If you've got a problem with me, come right out and say it why don't ya? I'm not going to play your little games just because you say so.
-----

A couple of others weren't so civil, mostly puns on the name- you get
the idea.

Of course I feel uncomfortable agreeing with the idea that the Woods Walker is floating somewhere out there between dimensions and using the Internet somehow. Have you thought of other, more possible solutions? For example, the Woods Walker's one-sided approach to communication seems to imply some sort of autism. Isn't there a mental hospital near Aglaura?

I don't know, I just think that at this point I deserve a clear
explanation. I've played his games, wasted my gas money and my health
giving the Woods Walker exactly what he wanted and gotten nothing in return. Don't you think you'd be pissed at this point too? Wouldn't you want some answers?


I replied to him with information about Klepsydra in Princeton and referred him to their website and also to Mythosphere and the information on John Doe. I told him about J.D. being Pyllis' husband and that he was committed their - either because he's possessed by a demon or had a total mental breakdown. I also told him that we had found out the JD was apparently part of the automatic writing experiment.

In a second letter Peter wrote:

Quote:
Ooops - I missed your question about the ghost hunters. I think the last team I toured with were named Lee, Allan, Jim and...some weird name...Zubin or Raul or Mahmoud or something. Jim could be the James you mentioned. Older man, right? Graying blonde hair, beer belly, slight limp? He was the equipment manager for that trip.

Honestly, I just thought Phyllis and Iris would know them because those
paranormal enthusiasts seem to all know each other. So maybe that was
a little prejudicial of me.


I had asked Peter if the guys he was referring to were James and Chris - the sidekicks for Iris in CTW1. From his description I'm pretty sure that's not the James from before. I remember Chris and James being much younger.

I wrote and thanked him for clarifying the issue of Iris and Phyllis knowing the "ghost hunters" and that it was just him thinking that all of "those types" know each other.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:58 pm
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Sylvia
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 		Here's the reply I got from Peter today:

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Subject: Re: emaildoc.doc

Sylvia,

Thanks for the solve. I wish I knew where to go from here, because
obviously I
didn't see him! Sometimes I wonder if the Woods Walker even actually reads my
posts. You'd think he would - they're all about HIM after all.

Sorry...frustrated. I'm feeling much better, thanks. I'm tired, but thats to
be expected in the middle of summer. I just wish the Woods Walker would send
me something that isn't a cryptic question I already answered.



This is what I sent him on July 28:
Quote:
Attached is a zip file with the solve for the emaildoc.doc you received from walkerofthewoods.

He had placed a watermark on the document which says, "did you see me at the hunt?"

best wishes
Sylvia

p.s. Hope you're feeling better.

[edit]
I wanted to add this for a little humor, but maybe I over stepped the bounds by sending the following on June 14. Anyway, the email didn't bounce and I haven't recieved a reply.
Quote:
Subject: What Do You Know
To: "WalkerOfTheWoods" <walkerofthewoods@gmail.com>

Hello

Who are you and What do you know about Aglaura?

Sylvia


PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:40 pm
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Mountain Girl
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Quote:
Mountain Girl,

I've been thinking about your email for the last couple of days, trying
to
collect my thoughts on it. Egregore seem like the personified
predecessor to
memes. A meme in the truest sense is not a funny little internet joke
that
gets passed around - which is essentially the meaning we take for it
today. Memes are essentially thoughts whose contents encourage them to
spread from
person to person. For example, the evangelism meme spreads because the
point
of evangelism is to spread the word. The meme of your garden variety
urban
legend usually spreads because of a percieved threat that the story
warns
against.

In this sense, memes do have life of their own - anyone who receives
and
understands the meme can spread it. They don't exist on an
extradimensional
plane, though - that's the amazing thing about them. They're like
individual
cells that combine to create an organism - individual minds combine to
form an
idea.

Just like you, Terry Pratchett expressed the idea that the process can
work in
reverse - that ideas can use people to manifest, instead of the people
using
the ideas. But that was a fairy tale, of course. And of course, even
in
Pratchett's story (I think the title was "Witches Abroad") the
individuals
chosen by the story wrest control and make the story their own. I hope
you
know what I'm talking about, or I've just revealed a bit too much of my
inner
nerd.

So in short, I don't think Wali Fard is coming back, but the things he
and his
ashram did might be imitated in Aglaura. Of course, the last
difference
between memes and egregore is that the meme has to be readable, whereas
the
egregore can manifest spontaneously if I understand correctly. So I
doubt the
citizens of Aglaura will be building an Egg any time soon - the meme
doesn't
tell them how.

You and my friend Sandra should really get together and talk some time
- she
believes that someone trapped between dimensions is talking to me
through the
internet. Not that I firmly disbelieve in other dimensions - there is
a huge
amount of unaccounted-for matter in the universe, after all - but I
have a hard
time believing that these other dimensions are holding spaces for
people or lost
ideas.

I wonder if the appearance of this "3-0-7" symbol in various places
around
Aglaura has a connection to the Ongs Hat Ashram meme? And if the
citizens of
Aglaura really are trying reenact or reconstitute the Ashram, where do
Marzent
and their construction plans come in? (Can you tell I've been catching
up on
my Aglaura news?)

Anyway, I'm done. Please keep me posted on your thoughts, since I seem
to have
run out. Wink

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:13 am
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Sandra
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 		MG - Now how weird is it to be told by Peter that you and I should talk. lol

Hmm, going to have to think about what he said about the current residents of Aglaura and the Ashram. Time to read some more of what's on the CD.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 3:12 am
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dashcat
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 		MG that is a great response you got. An excellent response. And Sandra I think Peter might be telling us that you and MG are on the right track.

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Sandra
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 		So we have a trans-dimensional meme controlling what is going on? Smile

Two clues could be:

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So in short, I don't think Wali Fard is coming back, but the things he and his ashram did might be imitated in Aglaura. Of course, the last difference between memes and egregore is that the meme has to be readable, whereas the egregore can manifest spontaneously if I understand correctly.


and

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I wonder if the appearance of this "3-0-7" symbol in various places around Aglaura has a connection to the Ongs Hat Ashram meme? And if the citizens of Aglaura really are trying reenact or reconstitute the Ashram, where do Marzent and their construction plans come in? (Can you tell I've been catching up on my Aglaura news?)


So is Marzent, with their ideas of improving tomorrow today creating a "mind set" that many of the people of Aglaura are beginning to accept as "truth" - such as through a meme that becomes part of the social consciousness of the community? Is Marzent orchestrating all of this? And how does all of this bolster what the "antagonist" is trying to accomplish by keeping up the walls (visible and invisible) to retain power?

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Killalaz
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 		In case anyone else has no idea what a Meme is. (I didn't) I found some links to describe it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meme - Wikipedia explanation of Memes
http://www.memecentral.com/ - Meme central, a site all about memes.
http://www.iampariah.com/memeslist/ - A blog dedicated to Memes, has a new meme for everyday of the week!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashram - This is an explanation of where the word "Ashram" comes from.

I guess I need to read up more on the Incunubula stuff because I am totally lost. I figured these links might help out someone else who is lost.
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