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[Water Set] Silver #255 - Clinical Explanation
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Peapod
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 		So we have:

xiu1 - food, meal; eat, offer
chang2 - taste, experience; ever
shu3 - potato, yam, tuber
yun4 - liquor, spirits, wine; ferment

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Something related to vodka maybe?
Or less likely but possibly ethanol?


PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 2:51 pm
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Kradlum
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Joined: 01 Aug 2006
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Location: London

 		Don't forget the Shi and the Pinyin chart.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 5:16 pm
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jazzychad
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 		Well.. I tried a few things from this site on "chinese vodka" but none of them worked...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baijiu

locked out now, but i'm gonna be angry if the answer is somewhere on that page and someone else gets it first Razz

I tried:
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potato vodka, white liquor, and gaoliang jiu


PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:57 pm
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miamo_tutti
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 		Von's hint was about reading in the correct direction, right? That me leads me to believe that the presentation and order of the characters needs to be given more attention.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:01 pm
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BBuck
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jazzychad wrote:
Well.. I tried a few things from this site on "chinese vodka" but none of them worked...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baijiu


Ugh. Baijiu is seriously awful. There's something about it that means you taste the d*mn thing for at least 24 hours afterwards. It's the ceremonial tipple, but many times the Chinese hosts have drunk water pretending it is baijiu and just given the revolting stuff to their guests.

I was extremely fortunate yesterday and picked up this card in the first one of a few Wave 4 packs I bought Very Happy , so have been looking more closely at the characters.

One thing that stood out was the change in the chang character. The radical at the top is normally considered to be composed of 5 strokes: the three "little" ones, then a downward left stroke followed by an across and down stroke. (Sorry, can't remember the proper names). The modified chang character is missing the downward left stroke from the radical but also the second part of the across and down stroke, meaning it's not a complete stroke missing, but only half of it.

I've tried to construct a character using the missing strokes. I can get several, including hai4 which means injure, harm, fall ill, though this does not quite use all of them.

Another thing I wonder about is the positioning of the lone character on the left. When I plotted the missing stroke characters in Excel, I got the following diagram:


Code:
OOOOOO█OOOO
█OOOOO█OOOO
█OOOOO█OOO█
█OOOOO█OOOO
█O███O███O█
█O█OOO█O█O█
█O███O█O█O█
█OOO█O█O█O█
█O███O█O█O█


The "1" or "l" on the left is obviously where there are no characters, and so perhaps shouldn't be included. But maybe it is indicating the tone for the shi or even, and it's a bit of a stretch, "wan" (sounds like "one").

PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 5:52 am
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fretty
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 		Well I found out that shi1 can be interpreted as "dead body" but already tried that with no luck.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:39 am
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devjoe
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 		We don't seem to be making any progress using the meanings of the characters on the card. What if we instead take them as numbers 1, 2, 3, 4?

This gives us:

41244244144
_4422212442
_4144221411
_4422432222
_1221222441
_1322432142
_2233122422
_2222142221
_2442212222

Now we have 91 characters, so maybe we should rearrange them into a 7 x 13 rectangle:

4124424
4144442
2212442
4144221
4114422
4322221
2212224
4113224
3214222
3312242
2222214
2221244
2212222

Or:
4124424414444
2221244241442
2141144224322
2212212224411
3224321422233
1224222222142
2212442212222

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fretty
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 		Don't know if this is relevant but:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishi

PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:28 am
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Typhin
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 		Following on from Ishi and potatoes...

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Ishi Yaki-Imo appears to be stone baked sweet potato


But I don't know if that's at all relevent...

Also,
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ISHI stands for "Institute for the Study of Health and Illness", http://www.commonweal.org/ishi/


But again that might just be coincidence.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:41 am
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KingOfWrong
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 		Ishi is the Japanese word for "stone".

All I can figure, with the title, is "stone therapy" (a type of massage)...

PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 2:26 pm
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cheetahfur
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Joined: 26 Jul 2006
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Location: Warrington, England

 		Has anyone considdered Plum blossom... or SEVEN STAR...

Thats a form of "medicine" where it uses a metal/stone hammer i think, which has 7 points to it... possible links with the 7 colours on the card?


I have tried plum blossom... will someone try seven star to check!!!

PS... IF YOU GET 1st solve you owe me £5 if it is seven star! :p

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Soulsproximity1
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 		Tried it. no luck

PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:06 am
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atari5200
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 		hangover
Is it possible that the definitions of the characters and the fact that one dangles mean that we should be looking for something to do with "hangovers?"

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Soulsproximity1
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 		trie
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Bad hangover

was wrong

PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:22 pm
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Kradlum
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 		If the characters missing strokes spell out Ishi rather than shi (i'm not sure since the I should be the same height as the h if that were true), that would indicate that there is another character to add to the ones we have - a character with just a single stroke that has been removed to produce the blank column.

Is there a character with a single stroke?

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