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[LOCKED] [LANDALAN] www.landalan.org possible trailhead?
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mongo
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 		Kasiski test gives a keyword of 13.

Split into one column of 13 letters/row should give 13 monoalphabetic sequences giving plain text from top to bottom after deciphering.
look at the coincidental 4graphs, trigraphs and digraphs in rows 2 - 5

WAXYWRWEBECTUQZLPEDLOTPLWMRWWLL 2ND COLUMN

JHAPYYLLNLUOAAJUULJUJJJUSKGYYJU 3RD COLUMN

HHOZVPSONFWQTOZXIEZDZZZDQDHEBZD 4TH COLUMN

BJNWNUUFGULLCFCLUUPUDJUVZWYNAQV 5TH COLUMN

cut and paste these into notepad and you'll see the columns.

Have tried numerous variants of 4 ,3 letter words, but always seem to end up with a Q and no U.

Am getting stuck or too bogged down on 1 theory?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 5:09 pm
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cvk_0
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 		As per the hint in the update. I tried going backwards. Got 41 coincidences vs 30 the normal direction.

here you can see them (the coincidences:digraphs/trigraphs) highlighted in pretty colors.
[img=http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/2164/groupsvh1.png[/img]

no luck yet on a key word/phrase.

mongo, I hope we are not chasing shadows.
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ancalime
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 		This might seem really dumb, but...any chance the keyword is "LandaLan?" Or, some 13-letter variation, such as "landalandalan" or "landalanlanda."

I mean, it is right there in the page title, and the page titles have helped us out a time or two before.

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thebruce
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 		well here's what we know, hint or not:

* Remember to stay focused. (backwards)
* 13 horns ben
- horns ben / rot-13 = ubeaf ort

* ubeafort seems to indicate a beaufort cipher, but interesting differences are:
- the break of 5 and 3 letters
- the U is out of place
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ancalime wrote:
This might seem really dumb, but...any chance the keyword is "LandaLan?" Or, some 13-letter variation, such as "landalandalan" or "landalanlanda."

I mean, it is right there in the page title, and the page titles have helped us out a time or two before.


Maybe it's LandaLandaLanda.

Laughing

Eh, probably not. Too many letters.
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cvk_0
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 		hey guys I got it! woo

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
It is a Beaufort cipher with a key length 13. The keyword is backwords, as well as the ciphertext.
The keyword is cigolonhcetla ->or al technologic. I'm not sure why/what the LA/AL at the end/begining is for.
At any rate the cipher text translates to the lyrics of the Daft Punk song 'Technologic'

The next page that this leads to is tests/technologic.html


The lyrics can be found here:
http://www.lastalbum.net/FRANCAIS/DaftPunk.html

[SPEC] It sounds like we need a phone number.

have a good weekend folks
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Rorschach
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 		Nice job cvk_0. I was starting to get a headache.

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NeoVox
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 		Phone number
This could be nothing, but I noticed if you take 13 horns beg and convert it to numbers on the phone keypad, you'll get enough numbers to form a phone number.

1346 767 894

But from there, it's anyone's guess how to rework them. I tried taking the 866 out and compressing the rest, but that number turns out to be a fax machine.

Of course, this could be completely wrong Smile

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cvk_0 wrote:
hey guys I got it! woo

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
It is a Beaufort cipher with a key length 13. The keyword is backwords, as well as the ciphertext.
The keyword is cigolonhcetla ->or al technologic. I'm not sure why/what the LA/AL at the end/begining is for.
At any rate the cipher text translates to the lyrics of the Daft Punk song 'Technologic'



First, good work on the solve.
Second, just to satisfy my own desire for knowledge, can you briefly explain how you were able to figure out the key.
Third, just for clarity,
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
it appears that the key is "technological". You can then decode the ciphertext without reversing, and the lyrics will read in reverse. That helps to explain your LA/AL problem.


Again...good job.
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Littlenatey
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 		Re: Phone number
NeoVox wrote:
This could be nothing, but I noticed if you take 13 horns beg and convert it to numbers on the phone keypad, you'll get enough numbers to form a phone number.

1346 767 894

But from there, it's anyone's guess how to rework them. I tried taking the 866 out and compressing the rest, but that number turns out to be a fax machine.

Of course, this could be completely wrong Smile


Spoiler (Rollover to View):
technologic.html says "analyze the noise."


Perhaps we need to record the sound of the fax machine and look to the waveform for the solve?
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Hangman42
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 		Hmm - could the phone number be the one from the whois info Russell_k posted on page one of the thread?

I dont live in the US so I dont know if its a valid number or not :

Quote:
:+1.2021233456


And let me add my congrats to cvk on the solve Smile
Please let the rest of us know how you did it Question

Will also be checking the song lyrics see if theres anything there.

The rabbithole is getting deeper and more complicated Smile

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Littlenatey
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Hangman42 wrote:
Hmm - could the phone number be the one from the whois info Russell_k posted on page one of the thread?

I dont live in the US so I dont know if its a valid number or not :

Quote:
:+1.2021233456


And let me add my congrats to cvk on the solve Smile
Please let the rest of us know how you did it Question

Will also be checking the song lyrics see if theres anything there.

The rabbithole is getting deeper and more complicated Smile


Tried that number. It's a standard disconnection message. Sad
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mongo
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 		Did anyone try the number from the revelation page
202657076
I'm in UK so don't know about the validity of it.

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grumpyboy
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 		good job on the beaufort cvk_0!

and excellent catch on the phone number mongo (the number on revelation is actually 202 6575076, which is a valid number). The recording is a little hard to make out. Here's some of what I can make out:
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Current status. The U.N. will be convinced soon. Our (operatives) are being (persuasive). At this rate the sewers will be ours within 9 months. Our (_____________________). The public will be persuaded. Record all new (analysis) here. [beep]


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Littlenatey
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grumpyboy wrote:
good job on the beaufort cvk_0!

and excellent catch on the phone number mongo (the number on revelation is actually 202 6575076, which is a valid number). The recording is a little hard to make out. Here's some of what I can make out:
Quote:
Current status. The U.N. will be convinced soon. Our (operatives) are being (persuasive). At this rate the sewers will be ours within 9 months. Our (_____________________). The public will be persuaded. Record all new (analysis) here. [beep]


Filling in the blank: operatives in the industry are implanting the messages, making the full message:

Quote:
Current status. The U.N. will be convinced soon. Our operatives are being persuasive. At this rate the sewers will be ours within 9 months. Our operatives in the industry are implanting the messages. The public will be persuaded. Record all new analysis here. [beep]

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