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Puzzle with silver prizes
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badbarry
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Puzzle with silver prizes

As we are coming to the end of this season of PPC in terms of the cards (only 4 currently unsolved) I have reviewed my stash and find that I have quite a few spare silvers. Rather than let them rot I thought they deserved a good home so have set a little puzzle and will give them away as prizes.

I have at least one of almost all Wave 1-4 silvers (including the retired cards Relativity and Riemann) so I propose that the winner picks 7 silvers of their choosing, second 5, third 3, fourth 2 and fifth and below 1 until there are no more - should go down to about 20th, if that many people enter. When the puzzle is closed, I will put up a list of what's available from which the winners can pick their prizes.

This is really intended for those that still need the cards, rather than to give them to someone who wants to flog them on ebay, so if you have all the cards already then don't enter, or enter for fun (you'll get credit!) but waive the prizes.

The puzzle is a classical one. Some are easy and I think some more obscure. I have tried to make this google-proof as much as possible, but inevitably most will fall to that omniscient beast, though hopefully after a bit of interesting research! Here we go:


1. Inventor of Νεφελοκοκκυγια. or in English for those lacking the font and wanting an easy solution
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nephelokokkygia

2. Hatched a plot against her husband.
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Hatched is important.

3. Wise Greek judged not to be the fairest.
4. This composite beast, wild and inhospitable, after a snatch job, died on an arrow poisoned with snake venom.
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The answer isn't Hydra

5. Emperor whose literary informer was rocked by Mozart?
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The literary connection is modern

6. This wily character's home was rocky and sea-girt (Latin version).
7. X it, you might remark "alea iacta est".
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The X means cross

8. Latin city.
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4

9. He inflicted the penultimate wound on the Nereids' finest son's best mate.
10. Nosey poet.
11. A great first wife?
12. Let down by hot wax.
13. To elude him, pacify his mother?
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Or so I hear

14. Member of family Corvus getting direction. He did get his vengeance! (Cognomen).
15. First appeared in Athenian naval lists in 325/4 BC.
16. During this pivotal battle, one force was afflicted with malaria and the winner took the title Princeps.
17. Sum?
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You need all the letters for this, it's difficult!



Don't worry if you can't get them all, enter anyway as the prizes go pretty low. Where more than one person has the same number of corrects I will draw them from a hat for final positions.

Closing date is midnight UK time on Sunday (20th). PM me with your answers or any questions. I will post the cards to any country, no charge.

Good luck! Very Happy

First edit (probably of many), as I have been asked a few questions. Like crovax's puzzle you can submit 2 sets of answers and I'll tell you how many you have right, though not which ones. The third entry will be the final one.

Q1 has greek writing so some browsers may not be able to read it. PM me and I'll give you the the english equivalent (though it's a bit of a giveaway).
Edit 2 - English spoiler added.

Sunday midnight means just before Monday starts - don't think I can be clearer than that.

Edit 3 - I have all the black cards, so if you need any of those then they are on offer too.

Edit 4 - added some clues

PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 10:22 am
Last edited by badbarry on Fri Aug 18, 2006 2:11 pm; edited 2 times in total
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badbarry
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As I have had a few first attempts submitted I thought I would clarify a few things:

1. All the answers are 1 word. I will mark them correct if more than 1 word is used, but for the avoidance of doubt you only need 1 word for each.

2. Don't worry about spelling. Lots of classical people and places have various spellings so as long as I know who or what you mean you will get it right. You must have the right word though!

3. Some clues may appear to have more than 1 answer, but look carefully at all the words - they should allow you to distinguish between two or more possble options.

4. I will give some clues tomorrow, but don't bank on them. They won't be too obvious as I don't want everyone coming in on the same score or I'll have too much hat work to do. Currently 14 of them have been answered correctly, though the most 1 person has is 10.

5. As the blacks are also up for prizes (ratio of 2 blacks to 1 silver), there are currently more prizes than entrants, so if you submit an answer and have none correct, you'll still win a prize!

6. Much as I am sure you have the proper disinterest in what I get up to at the weekend, I am going to a wedding on Saturday so will be out of action from Sat am to sunday afternoon. Therefore, if you want me to have a look at early guesses then get something in by Friday night or I wont answer until sunday afternoon.

Thanks for your interest so far and good luck with the rest!

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walther
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While we wait for the answers to appear.....

I just wanted to say that was the most frustrating fun I've had in awhile. At least I can finally get some sleep. Reminded me a lot of #181, Soooo many possible choices and so few guesses to get the right ones. Congrats to anyone that managed to get all 17!

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Ditto! My brain is so fried, I can't even think straight any more! LOL
I've learned a lot (some made me sad, other stuff made me shake my head)! And, even though I know some answers are wrong, it was still a great experience! Thanks a bunch, BadBarry, for the opportunity to win some great prizes! Good luck to all who sent in submissions... I can't wait to see all the answers! Wink
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Arkai
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Great Puzzles

I agree with H4T above. Great puzzles, a lot of new things, and soooo many possible choices... Just like to mention this: Link... hmmm... quiz look familiar?
Anyway, great job BadBarry and good luck to all. But now what are the answers? I wonder if anyone did get all 17?
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Curlytek
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I doubt that anyone got the 17....certainly not by themselves...but great work if they did! I am pretty sure I got 11 right.....a few I looked at for two-three days without finding anything to really bite into. Should have googled the question set!!!

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fretty
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Yes, the puzzle was very hard because the answers were hard to come by, especially "Latin City". I didn't know what to put for that.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:33 am
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sixsidedsquare
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Much enjoyable indeed, thanks for that badbarry Very Happy
I love it how you send in a bunch of answers you're pretty confident in, and then get back that only a few of them are right. Much fun research was had and there's a few that I can't wait to see what the dang answer was.

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Kradlum
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A very enjoyable puzzle. Had me scratching my head for days. The thing I learnt most was that I didn't know as much as I thought I did to begin with.

I tried to enlist the help of people who I thought would know more than me. The discussion board where I normally hang out were not much use, but a few of the guys gave more avenues of exploration. A couple of my colleagues' spouses helped out, as they are teachers, but even the retired classics teacher only managed to correct one of my answers. I even got the woman sat next to me on the train on Friday evening to have a look at the puzzles. As she was reading "Learn Greek in 6 weeks" I hoped she might be able to help, but I think she confused matters by pointing out the words "ROMAN" and "ROMANTIC" among my anagram letters.

Since BadBarry hasn't given us his answers, I don't know if it's ok to give my answers and reasoning. I'll do it and spoilerise them, and anyone who wants to disect them or tell me where I went wrong I'll be quite happy to be put out of my misery!

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Aristophanes (wrote The Birds where "cloud cuckoo land" first appeared
Clytemnestra (she was hatched from an egg and killed her husband)
Athena (Goddess of wisdom, lost to Aphrodite in the Judgement of Paris)
Nessus (Centaur, killed by Hercules after Nessus snatched his wife. I also had Geryon and Chiron as possibilities, but Centaurs are in general "wild and inhospitable", except Chiron, and Chiron didn't actually die, but took the place of Prometheus)
Vespasian (Marcus Didio Falco was his informer in a series of books)
Ulysses (Latin name of "wily" Odysseus)
Rubicon (fairly easy)
Urbs (a guess. I hope the answer isn't Naples as that was my other guess)
Euphorbus (took a bit of tracking down, but he stabbed Patroclus after Apollo stunned him and before Hector killed him)
Ovid (surname Naso)
Hera (a guess, first wife of Zeus)
Icarus (sun melted the wax in his wings)
Thanatos (another guess)
Meridius (I put Maximus the first 2 times, as Maximus is a cognomen, but I changed it for the last answers as the writers made him Maximus Decimus Meridius)
Nearchus (Ok, clutching at straws. I had about 5 equally implausible answers for this one, but I got stuck on Nearchus because I needed an N for #17. Otherwise I had Thule, Quinquireme, Equator, Papyrus, Greek and a couple of other answers. Today I think the answer is Greek)
Actium (because it was)
Theseus (Tricky to work out without knowing you have all the correct answers. MINOTAUR was the first word I saw when looking at the first letters, but then I spent a few days working around answers to do with OCTAVIANUS. In the end I went back to my first thoughts, as I notice on some of the silver card solutions that first thoughts are often better than 51st thoughts


Now can anyone recommend a readable book of greek myths?

Canongate books are releasing a series called "Myths" over the next 30 years where they get contemporary writers to re-write myths. So far I have read The Penelopiad by Margaret Atwood (first time I have finished one of her books), Weight by Jeanette Winterson (story of Atlas) and the introductory book "A short history of myth". All of them have been very enjoyable.

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As I am eager to know the answers as well, I'll post mine here.
On my third try, I had about the same as Kradlum, but;

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04 Geryon
08 Roma (now I think that's a bit too easy, and it could be Quad- something...)
and for the last one I originally thought Alphabet (as that has all the letters in it) but then looked at anagrams, and went for...
17 Augustus


Quite close...
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Kradlum
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On my first try I had Geryon, as I felt he was "a composite beast" - 3 heads and bodies - and was killed by Hercules with an arrow poisoned with the Hydra's blood. But I couldn't fit the "wild and inhospitable" bit in until I discovered that Centaurs were "wild and inhospitable".

I had tried Augustus as my first attempt on 17 and decided it was wrong. 2nd attempt I tried Gloop, as I thought I had GERMANIC OCATAVIUS, and Augustus Gloop from Charlie and The Chocolate Factory was all I could come up with.

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I have to agree that this was very challenging.
I still like my solution for #3, even though I think it hindered me in trying to guess at #17.
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Bias was one of the Seven Wise Men of Greece. So he was wise, Greek and biased (therefore not the fairest). Unfortunately this left me with a B to fit in the anagram.
Good luck to everyone who entered.
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Lysithea, I ended with Bias for #3 as well! Maybe we'll get some sympathy points for it (it's a pretty good answer, but Athena is clearly the right one).

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I got SO angry with these because most of the times I tried googling things it cae up blank, with nothing at all relevent coming up, on question 2 I managed to google and get a family guy episode and loads of other random things. These questions REALLY frustrated me because no matter how many times I tried most of them i couldn't find an answer for, and I'm desparate for cards because I still need WAY too many blacks and silvers.

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Ooh the suspenders are suspense is killing me Shocked
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