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[PUZZLE]Putting Mystes Together [Warning Complete Spoiler]

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Sylvia
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[PUZZLE]Putting Mystes Together [Warning Complete Spoiler]

Thursday, August 24, 2006
I am going to do my best to put the pieces of this puzzle together up to where we are today. In doing so hopefully someone can see something.
On that note, this is going to be somewhat long. So bear with me.
(note: In all instances of quoting others, where a **mystes.com/somepage.html** is mentioned I removed the **.html** as it is not needed. A nice little feature I might add.)

This trail started with this email:

Quote:

Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006
From: initiatesone@mystes.com
Subject: RE: Ravens

Kheperi - Re - Atum

Above the height of ten men, a face of stone looks eastward towards the
mighty source of life.

Those who have both desire and knowledge shall proceed.

So we are looking for something that is more that 60 feet tall, made of stone and faces east. Which just happens to be the description of the Great Sphinx of Giza.

And from this email Mountain Girl got http://www.mystes.com/sphinx

Quote:

Seven doors or one hundred, by either it is known. Once, the great beast plagued this place.

From this grumpyboy discovered and found the following:

Quote:

the great beast = the sphinx and the sphinx plagued Thebes
next page: http://www.mystes.com/thebes

So next stop is http://www.mystes.com/thebes

Quote:

Find the seven gates.

Once again grumpyboy, fastest on the draw discovers:

Quote:

from here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theban_kings_-_Greek_mythology
"the seven gates of Thebes, naming them after Amphion's daughters (Thera, Cleodoxa, Astynome, Astycratia, Chias, Ogygia,

Chloris)"

http://www.mystes.com/thera
http://www.mystes.com/cleodoxa
http://www.mystes.com/astynome2
http://www.mystes.com/astycratia
http://www.mystes.com/chias
http://www.mystes.com/ogygia
http://www.mystes.com/chloris1

However, in this order they result in confusion (a naturally occurring phenomenon in CTW) but sixsidedsquare comes to the rescue with

Quote:

Each page has a line of letters and arranging in the right order gives

a s c e m m t
l t e l a e a
c e l e i r y
y r a c a o g
o o e t _ p e
n p n r _ e t
e e o a _ _ e

and reading down the lines we get Alcyone, Sterope, Celaeno, Electra, Maia, Merope and Taygete.
These are all the daughters of the Atlas and Pleione known as Pleiades, hence

http://www.mystes.com/pleiades

So now we arrive at http://www.mystes.com/pleiades

Quote:

Code:

There were three pyres amid the gravestones.

1 4 4 9 12 12 13 14 14 16 19 20 21 21 25

1 5 5 8 8 9 13 14 15 19 19 19 20 20 20

1 1 1 5 6 7 9 9 12 15 18 18 19 20 21

However, Mountain Girl discovers that we could also have gotten the same by using http://www.mystes.com/fire

Which leads one to believe there is more than one path through the Mystes Maze. And it seems that Dale's is telling us so from this journal entry.
http://www.thewishcomic.com/journal/071906.html (note I pulled out the important parts to put here.)

Quote:

"The more I look, the more I find."

I miss Wes. He could help me make sense of this all, put the pieces together in a way that makes an actual picture rather than just a chaotic collage of meaningless fragments.

But he's not here, not any longer, and I've got to accept that. I can't change history, only learn from the knowledge it offers. If I'm smart enough to understand what it is teaching.

It's all about putting together the pieces. I once thought that meant I needed to find the one true combination and orientation of pieces that would show me THE picture, the secret meaning and answer I've been chasing, literally all my life. I've wasted most of my life searching for that one solution, that one image that at last made all the pieces and my life make sense.

I realize now that there is no one solution, no one answer that puts all the pieces in place for you and provides meaning to your life. All we have are the pieces, and they can be put together to make almost any picture we can imagine. Or deserve.

It's truly terrifying to think about how far back and how involved this is. There are even traces of this buried in that Incunabula stuff, in a way I'm not sure I understand yet. (note: on page 60 of the Incunabula is a puzzle.)

Part of that realization is the understanding that I can put the pieces together too though, in a way that doesn't cause loss and pain, and the end of everything I care for. That's what Wes's life was all about when I think about it - putting together the pieces of the world in a way that made sense and satisfied him. So that's what I've begun to do.

Unfortunately it's taken me so long to see things clearly that I haven't much time any longer. Time must be a factor for them as well, though why remains a gnawing question.

The pieces - the more I look, the more I find. I think I'm beginning to see the patterns and understand. Just maybe. I don't want to post anymore here now, though. If I have your address, watch for an email later tonight.

Later that night we get his email (note: this is complete nothing is removed.)

Quote:

Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 06:44:08 -0500
From: daleSPLATsynthasia.com
To: "Sylvia Fee"
Subject: Dale Sprague

Hi Sylvia,

I'm sorry for having worried you and others. By now you know at least the beginnings of why I wasn't in touch for a few days, and this email is the start of correcting that lack of communication.

I've been up all night, digging through everything I've found and put together. I've been going over and over things, trying to figure out how they might fit together, and what they are meant to tell me.

First though, I want to back up a little. How much do you know about this area and its rather unusual history? It seems our little town of Aglaura (or should I say Ongs Hat?) has been the center of some strange happenings for a long time, and I don't just mean the Jersey Devil nonsense and stuff like that. That's just the tip of a very big iceberg. It's almost as if the location itself has something special or weird about it, either some type of magnet or even source for strange phenomenon.

Of course, I've known about the town's history for quite some time, everyone who lives around here does, but it's been one of those things you just push aside and don't think about in your day-to-day life. It's just doesn't seem to have any relevance when you are trying to put in enough hours to pay your bills, or get to the school play on time, and so on. But, that may be just why all of this is happening.

I don't won't to get too lost in this heavy metaphysical stuff right now though, I wanted explain to you what I was doing on last Tuesday night a week ago, what I was looking for and thought I could find. That was the night when all of the fires around here happened, after I went out looking for some additional clues and answers.

"Six voices with one tongue will call
A secret hidden behind the wall."

I thought for sure that there would be something waiting for me, the next piece of the puzzle I'm trying to put together, behind that old wall in the basement of the Aglaura Library. The six voices (the missing masks, I thought), the dreams I had about the 307 symbol on a wall that looked like that - I was sure they were all signs pointing me to that spot. And then there was the fact that the library building has quite the history itself, and is one of if not the oldest structures in the town.

It's rumored that the fabled "Doctor of the Pines", an old physician and teacher named Dr. Still, used that building as his clinic, for dispensing his natural (and some say supernatural) remedies to the local people back in days when the town was a center of activity in the area, back in the mid to late 1800's. It's also said he was involved in many secretive and unusual things, but that could be because of the part he played in the Underground Railroad from the Civil
War.

Anyway, I wasn't positive there was something hidden somewhere in that old building but, as you probably know by now, I didn't find anything, despite gaining access to an storeroom beneath the oldest part of the library.

Damn, the sun is coming up already. I had plans to get much more done tonight and these emails sent hours ago, but I have a tendency to get lost in all this stuff, as there is just so much to read through and try and fit together. I can't finish this now but I will soon, tonight hopefully, and get into what I think that 307 symbol means and what that image you sent me may be trying to tell us.

Thanks again for all your help with this. It's great to know that there are
people out there who care and are trying to do what they can to make sense of my crazy tale. If you left me your number on my cell, I'll try and call you back very soon.

Dale

By now you're probably wondering, just what was that puzzle at http://www.mystes.com/pleiades or at http://www.mystes.com/fire !? Well here it is again.

Quote:

There were three pyres amid the gravestones.

1 4 4 9 12 12 13 14 14 16 19 20 21 21 25

1 5 5 8 8 9 13 14 15 19 19 19 20 20 20

1 1 1 5 6 7 9 9 12 15 18 18 19 20 21

From this Shelina ordered the numbers as they were grouped in the source code

Shelina wrote:

Numbers in pleiades page as they're grouped in the sorce code:

Code:

1
4 4
9 12
12 13
14 14
16 19
20 21
21 25

1 5
5 8
8 9
13 14
15 19
19 19
20 20
20

1
1 1
5 6
7 9
9 12
15 18
18 19
20 21

And Citizen Kane noticed there was five different fonts.

Citizen Kane wrote:

I've also looked at the source and count 5 different fonts used:

Code:

And gumpyboy made the connection as follows:

Quote:

Group by fonts, in alpha order of font names, 1=A, 2=B, etc:

Arial Code: = Y O U

Courier Code: M U S T F I

Georgia Code: N D T H E S A G E

Times Code: I L L U I M I N A T O R

Verdana Code: A N D P A S S T H E T R I A L S

doing some unscrambling gives "you must find the sage illuminator and pass the trials" next page: http://www.mystes.com/sageilluminator

source from here: http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/sta/sta09.htm (i think, since i haven't read it Razz)

EDIT: to add relevant bits from above link:
"The technique of the Mysteries was unfolded by the Sage Illuminator, the Master of the Secret House. The power to know his guardian spirit was revealed to the new initiate; the method of disentangling his material body from. his divine vehicle was explained; and to consummate the magnum opus, there was revealed the Divine Name--the secret and unutterable designation of the Supreme Deity, by the very knowledge of which man and his God are made consciously one. With the giving of the Name, the
new initiate became himself a pyramid, within the chambers of whose soul numberless other human beings might also receive spiritual enlightenment."

Landing at http://www.mystes.com/sageilluminator we get this:

Quote:

Here begins the second death. Upon the cross of solstices and equinoxes shall you be crucified, and then sealed away inside a great tomb. Your soul must find the way your body cannot, the way to freedom.

renewal defeat hidden avail vie weapon concealed impart discover wall faintly know under beneath ruin escape your offset unworth inviolate learning envoy ghosts souls hopelessness fail departures facade

And once again grumpyboy saves the day. But on this day, this is as far as we are going.

grumpyboy wrote:

take out the punctuation from the top phrases. line up with the word list below. take the letters from the word list which are under the spaces of the phrases. like this:

Code:

Here begins the second death Upon the cross of solstices and equinoxes
renewal defeat hidden avail vie weapon concealed impart discover wall
W E H A V E N E E D O

shall you be crucified and then sealed away inside a great
faintly know under beneath ruin escape your offset unworth
F Y O U A R E Y O U W

tomb Your soul must find the way your body cannot the way to freedom
inviolate learning envoy ghosts souls hopelessness fail departures facade
I L L I N G T O H E L P

all together: "we have need of you are you willing to help"

tried willing.html, help.html, willingtohelp.html etc. but got nothing. so i've emailed initiatesoneSPLATmystes.com and

sageilluminatorSPLATmystes.com saying i'm willing to help (don't know for what though Razz

)

In the middle of all this Methos makes a nice discovery. But no one knows how it fits the overall scheme of the puzzle other than it leads to a bad representation of the Mask of History via Venus the planet associated with the Mithra's grade of Nymphus.

enaxor wrote:

While in chat Methos mentioned he is writing a German wiki for CTW2 and needed some help with how to connect one of the pages. The page he found is new, I think. At least I've never seen it before. He found it by just entering different planet names. But here is our Mask of History.

Then on July 29, Delusional discovered that http://www.mystes.com/sageilluminator had been updated.

Delusional wrote:

Update on sageilluminator

Code:

1-5 3-6 1-3,1 3-8,6 1-5 2-7,2 3-6 2-7,3 1-1 3-7 1-3,1 3-8,6 1-5 2-7,2,0 1-1 2-1,0,4 1-1,5 3-8 1-1,-5,4 2-4 1-1 3-6 2-1 3-7

1-1,1 2-7,2 3-6 2-1 1-2 2-7 1-0,0,1 3-8 1-1 2-2 3-6,3 2-1 3-8 2-4 1-2 3-7 1-0 2-7,2 1-2 3-5,7,7,5 1-3 2-8 1-5 2-0 1-1 3-8,7

2-1,2

And thanks to the great obsevation of catherwood we get this one solved.

catherwood wrote:

I hope no one minds that I solved this one*. Very Happy

Yes, the hyphenated number pairs are just pairs, and the commas are just shorthand for when a first digit repeats in the next pair.

Thus:

Code:

1-5 3-6 1-3,1 3-8,6 ...
becomes
15 36 13 11 38 36 ...

Now, with those pairs, you make a table with rows and columns, and lookup the paired numbers as

intersections:

Code:

..0123456789
1.FEDCBA....
2.PONMLKJIHG
3.ZYXWVUTSRQ

And the message revealed is: at certain times certain people are able to see into different worlds find us such a person
Oh, and that ",-5" seems to have been a typo, just ignore the extra dash.

*(solved the numbers, that is; I have no idea what the list of words on the page is for -- yet.)

And with this the full message is revealed for http://www.mystes.com/sageilluminator

Quote:

We have need of you, are you willing to help? At certain times certain people are able to see into different worlds, find us such a person.

And we get conformation of this from http://www.catchingthewish.com/StorySoFar/index.html
Look at week 10

Quote:

The Mystai make a new request of their initiates - they are seeking one who can "see into other worlds"

This, is our graduation trail. Once we accomplished this we become Nymphus.

Then on August 8, we get the following email:

Quote:

Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 19:05:04 -0400
From: "Mystes Mystai" <simon@mystes.com>
To: Sylvia
Subject: This World
Having with me therefore this fair book, I did nothing else day nor night, but study upon it, understanding very well all the operations that it showed, but not knowing with what matter I should begin, which made me very heavy and solitary, and caused me to fetch many a sigh. My wife Perrenella, whom I loved as myself, and had lately married was much astonished at this, comforting me, and earnestly demanding, if she could by any means deliver me from this trouble.

v1 5y w2 b1 1b o3 2m 4f g8 1c a1

Which was solved in a combined effort on #ctw chat:

Quote:

Rogi Ocnorb wrote:

In chat, we figured out that:
Having with me therefore this fair book, I did nothing lse day nor night, but study upon it, understanding very well all the operations that it showed, but not knowing with what matter I should begin, which made me very heavy and solitary, and caused me to fetch many a sigh. My wife Perrenella, whom I loved as myself, and had lately married was much astonished at this, comforting me, and earnestly demanding, if she could by any means deliver me from this trouble.

Code:

v1 5y w2 b1 1b o3 2m 4f g8 1c a1
> < > > < > < < > < >

The underlined characters are those in the letter/number pairs in the order they are encountered in the text.

The bold letters are found by counting either forward or backward from the underlined letter, depending on whether the number is before or after the letter.

It works out to "illudtemPus" or http://www.mystes.com/illudtempus

drizjr found that the source for the audio file is actually:
http://www.mystes.com/tones.wmv

Once again the combined knowledge of the chatters on #ctw chat proves powerful:

Quote:

drizjr wrote:

In chat enaxor remembered the sounds of video from an old puzzle in UH and CTW1.
Six downloaded the program to convert the sound to picture and got the letters AT MIDNIGHT I SAW THE SUN SHINING WITH A

SPLENDID LIGHT
nax pointed out that phrase comes from
http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/sta/sta11.htm
Plugging in the author of the line, gives.. http://www.mystes.com/apuleius

"At midnight, I saw the sun shining with a splendid light." Apuleius

The existence of this world is written in cycles. A time of great change is upon us, when questions are answered and destinies made, when doorways open and those who can come use them. It is a time when many things - knowledge, mankind, reality itself - are in peril, for there are truths man is not meant to know and things he is not meant to see.

I am Simon Magus, Mystae. Do you want to know more?

(The last word is linked to simonSPLATmystes.com)
Emailing that, gives an autoresponse:

Quote:

Congratulations, Nymphus!

Your first trial is a task you must perform for us. Knowledge will be your reward.

Simon

Good job, everyone!

And here's the cool pic found and posted by sixsidedsquare from the audio file

And for those of us that want a more meaningful deffinition for ILLUD TEMPUS:

http://www.online-oboe.de/Jocy-Illud%20Tempus.htm

Quote:

ILLUD TEMPUS means time now and always in Latin. lt also represents the atemporal telling of dreams, of unconscious time when God was a woman, a contemporary fairy tale.

An actress, a singer, through acoustic (clarinet and percussion) and electroacoustic means, like story tellers assembling a patchwork texture of women dreams, Yanamami stories, (stone age indigenous culture in Brazil), mythical texts, fairy tales, composing and decomposing images, words and sounds.

The electroacoustic part , like a collage, builds a dreamy sound landscape of these memories through processed sampled sounds of citations from Yanomami chants to improvisations by the composer and Joseph Celli fused in magical reminiscences of the

Dervishes...

In real time, this space is drawn by sound objects and musical instrurments specially built to offer the performers a scenic and musical field which designs a verbal path to the central personage - a woman.

Spoken words in different languages are used not only to tell these stories but also weaving intelligible phonemic texts combining sonic and semantic results.

Besides the author texts, some citations were drawn from Euripedes -Medeia, ancient Summer Babylonian texts, besides Clemente, Nag Hammadi Library and Gertrude Stein.

Focusing on texts that expresses the female psyche through times, "Illud Tempus" explores through music, theater, body expression this variety and diversity of cultures.

A music - theater piece that goes back to a playful universe of the collective unconscious to regain the mysterious routes of the true feminine.

"Illud Tempus" is the second part from a trilogy started with "Inori to the sacred prostitute" in 1993 and closing with "As Malibrans", 2000.

Illud Tempus was premiered at the Espa�o Cultural Sergio Porto, Rio de Janeiro, 1994 followed by performances at the "Haus der Kulturen der Welt". Berlin

CD recorded for OODiscs, USA and RioArte Digital / Academia Brasileira de Musica, Brazil. Video recorded in its complete version by TVCultura, S. Paulo. Brazil

And for keeping with the mythological and multi dimension theme go here

http://www.westminster.edu/staff/brennie/eliade/introduction.htm

So this is the way I see this:
1. We have need of you, are you willing to help?
2. At certain times certain people are able to see into different worlds, find us such a person.
I believe we found such a person in Apuleius. http://www.mystes.com/apuleius

Quote:

At midnight, I saw the sun shining with a splendid light." Apuleius

The existence of this world is written in cycles. A time of great change is upon us, when questions are answered and destinies made, when doorways open and those who can come use them. It is a time when many things - knowledge, mankind, reality itself - are in peril, for there are truths man is not meant to know and things he is not meant to see.

I am Simon Magus, Mystae. Do you want to know more?

And with this email we can assume we have officially graduated from Raven to Nymphus:

Quote:

Date: 8 Aug 2006 22:02:05 -0700
To: Sylvia
From: simonSPLATmystes.com
Subject: [Auto-Reply] Do you want to know more?

Congratulations, Nymphus!

Your first trial is a task you must perform for us. Knowledge will be your reward.

Simon

So our first trial in the Nymphus grade is to perform a task and as I posted before the task of the Nymphus is to ***Uncover Ineternal Secrets*** and Knowledge will be our reward.
--Grade------------Lesson------------------------Task
---Raven-----------Humility-------------------Serve Others
---Nymphs------Self-Examination---Uncover Internal Secrets

Which brings us to our next email:

Quote:

Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 07:03:37 -0400
From: "Mystes Mystai" <simon@mystes.com>
To: Sylvia
Subject: Your Success
The face of man hides the flaws he wants others to never know. He can't begin his days with them exposed to the world. One mask is not enough; the average man wears many.

With only the world as his witness, he stands alone in this real conviction, truth does indeed matter, yet fails every opportunity which he surely could employ to make others believe as well.

Yet man can be both maker or follower, model or source, healer or destroyer. This universe begins and concludes with man's imprint. He is the reason this world exists, and he is the answer for every question. Perfect by nature, his flaws his fate decide.

Those who have both desire and knowledge shall proceed.

Our trail is laid before us. We must Uncover the Internal Secrets in this email and Knowledge will be our reward.

I guess they are growing impatient with us, remember Time is very important for some reason so the sent us the email above again with what we hoped was a HUGE clue, but alas to no avail.

Quote:

Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 19:39:57 -0400
From: "Mystes Mystai" <simon@mystes.com>
To: Sylvia
Subject: Your Failure
The face of man hides the flaws he wants others to never know. He can't begin his days with them exposed to the world. One mask is not enough; the average man wears many.

With only the world as his witness, he stands alone in this real conviction, truth does indeed matter, yet fails every opportunity which he surely could employ to make others believe as well.

Yet man can be both maker or follower, model or source, healer or destroyer. This universe begins and concludes with man's imprint. He is the reason this world exists, and he is the answer for every question. Perfect by nature, his flaws his fate decide.

Those who have both desire and knowledge shall proceed.

In the differences the message lies,
the answer's hidden before your eyes.

And this is where we are today, Thursday, August 24, 2006. I hope this made since and gets all on the same page.

However, please remember those odd pages.
http://www.mystes.com/venus
http://www.mystes.com/fire
And there could still be things we are over looking.

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 9:28 pm

Rogi Ocnorb
I Have 100 Cats and Smell of Wee

Joined: 01 Sep 2005
Posts: 4266
Location: Where the cheese is free.

We also have the voice1 through voice6 pages allowing us to find simon and simon being the source of the (cleaned-up) Voices 1 through 6.

_________________
I'm telling you now, so you can't say, "Oh, I didn't know...Nobody told me!"

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 12:30 am

Sylvia
I Have No Life

Joined: 21 Apr 2006
Posts: 2062

Just received this:

Quote:

Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 22:53:19 -0500
From: "Mystes Mystai" <simon@mystes.com>
Subject: Time is waning
With the aid of Iamblichus in Heath, you must seek the masculine and feminine from within the passage. Time is waning.

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 12:55 am

Sylvia
I Have No Life

Joined: 21 Apr 2006
Posts: 2062

Rogi, I didn't reference mystes.com/voice1 through mystes.com/voice6 and mystes.com/simon because they were the end of another trail and where this one begins. But yea, in the overall scheme of things that trail can't be ignored either.

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 12:59 am

konamouse
Official uF Dietitian

Joined: 02 Dec 2002
Posts: 8010
Location: My own alternate reality

We have moved forward in the Your Failure thread.

Awesome job, Sylvia. Please continue to edit your first post as we go further into the Mystes. It is a great reference.

_________________
'squeek'
r u a Sammeeeee? I am Forever!

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 11:16 am

pagrashtak
Veteran

Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Posts: 78

I'd also like to create pages for puzzles like this in the wiki. (http://ctw2.wikia.com) I'm not sure if I should make a separate page for each mystes.com trail or one page containing all the mystes.com puzzles - what you do think?

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 11:27 am

Citizen Kane
Unfettered

Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 486
Location: Aglaura, NJ

Why not do both?

A rundown of the entire Mystes thing, with links to pages about the pages expanding on each?

_________________
It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.
--Mark Twain

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 11:30 am

pagrashtak
Veteran

Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Posts: 78

Oh sure, Citizen Kane has to come along with the perfect solution. Wink

Seriously, that's a great idea. I suppose the natural way to split this up is the newcomer->Raven trail, the Raven->Nymphus trail, etc. I'm going to need some help for the puzzles leading up to the discovery of the initiatesone email, I think. (And probably some help for the rest of it, too.) If anyone wants to help, feel free to come over to the wiki or message me.

Edit: By the way, is anyone archiving the web pages? It would be nice to have the wiki link to web pages that reflect their status at a certain point in a puzzle trail.

Edit again: I've written a draft at http://ctw2.wikia.com/wiki/Raven_to_Nymphus_Trail. For lack of a better name I've called it the "Raven to Nymphus Trail".

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 12:19 pm
Last edited by pagrashtak on Fri Aug 25, 2006 2:19 pm; edited 1 time in total

pagrashtak
Veteran

Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Posts: 78

Wait, this is weird. On 8 August, we received an email from simonSPLATmystes.com that led us to a web page, which led us to the simonSPLATmystes.com address. Doesn't that seem a little odd?

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 1:29 pm

Sylvia
I Have No Life

Joined: 21 Apr 2006
Posts: 2062

The Trail of the Nymphs

Continuing the Trail or should I say Trial:
On Thursday, August 24 we got the following email to help with the Success / Failure emails:

Quote:

Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 22:53:19 -0500
From: "Mystes Mystai" <simon@mystes.com> Learn more
Subject: Time is waning
With the aid of Iamblichus in Heath, you must seek the masculine and feminine from within the passage. Time is waning.

Shad0 found a good definition for Iamblichus:

Shad0 wrote:

Iamblichus wrote:

An even number is that which admits of being divided, by one and the same operation, into the greatest and the least, greatest in size but least in quantity ... while an odd number is that which cannot be so treated, but is divided into two unequal parts

The Pythagoreans considered odd numbers to be masculine and divine, and even numbers to be feminine and thus earthly and human. So... we're seeking odd and even numbers in Simon's original passage?

Which I take to mean that for example 12 = 6+6 so 6 would be both the greatest in size and the least in quantity or for 10=5+5, 5 would be both
and for example odd number 11=6+5 with 6 being the greatest in size and 5 being the least in quantity and for 9=5+4, 5 would be greatest in size and 4 least in quantity
And that Even = female = earthly and human= 1 in binary
And that Odd = male = divine Rolling Eyes

(ego) = 0 in binary (fitting) Laughing

Which led to the solve of the Success / Failure emails

grumpyboy wrote:

solved by Rogi in chat (WTG!)

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

the latest email was a clue to look at odd and even

in the "your success" email, words with odd number of letters = 0, even = 1

giving:
0110000101101110011101000110100001110010011011110111000001101111011000110110111101110011011011010110100101100011

which is: anthropocosmic

next page: http://www.mystes.com/anthropocosmic.html

Which led to http://www.mystes.com/anthropocosmic

mystes.com/anthropocosmic wrote:

Man is both the seed and the flower, the template upon which the universe is based as well as the ultimate result of its logical and inevitable progression. The essence of the universe is imprinted upon each and every one of us, as we leave our imprint upon this world.

Those who have both desire and knowledge shall proceed.

4 6 18 11 2 21 13 12 7 6 24 25 18 12 1 4 5 6 6 22 14 9 12 24 11 18 6 3 24 21 13 5 16 12 18 3 4 6 7 12 2 6 6 5 6 12 9 24 21 18 12 5 6 8 13 18 4 6 12 5 3 1 24 24 3 6 18 9 23 25 2 6 1 6 12 17 18 6 4 8

grumpyboy wrote:

credit goes to Six and Rogi! (i did the grunt work only Laughing

)

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

80 numbers in the sequence.

Rogi noticed that a lot of the numbers are divisible by 6

Six figured that if the number is divisible by 6 then replace with 1, not divisible by 6, replace with 0

so:
4 6 18 11 2 21 13 12 7 6 24 25 18 12 1 4 5 6 6 22 14 9 12 24 11 18 6 3 24 21 13 5 16 12 18 3 4 6 7 12 2 6 6 5 6 12 9 24 21 18 12 5 6 8 13 18 4 6 12 5 3 1 24 24 3 6 18 9 23 25 2 6 1 6 12 17 18 6 4 8

becomes:
01100001011011000110001101101000011001010110110101101001011000110110000101101100

which is: alchemical

next page: http://www.mystes.com/alchemical.html

This in turn led to http://www.mystes.com/alchemical

mystes.com/alchemical wrote:

But we must know that all things whatsoever that are done by men, as well in soul as in body, arise and proceed from within, from their own proper inclination and nature.

Within, I say, in Man, is that Heaven, that Planet, that Sidus or Star, by which he is inclined, constituted, predestinated and signed to this or that ; and not from without, by the constitution of the external Heaven.

A wise man shall rule the stars. � And that saying� "A wise man shall rule the Stars," is not to be understood of the external stars, in the Heaven or Firmament of the great world, but of the internal stars, bearing sway and running, up and down in man himself; which will more and more appear by that which followeth. But this we premise for the beginning to be noted: �

That the external Heaven with its continual revolution, hath a most convenient correspondency with the inward Heaven in the Microcosm.

Those who have both desire and knowledge shall proceed.

5 12 3 7 9 4 6 11 18 21 17 6 2 8 12 14 13 1 12 23 12 15 6 25 1 7 4 12 22 19 6 3 6 5 18 21 6 5 16 3 24 1 11 6 21 18 4 13 25 2 16 12 3 3 9 5 6 4 12 22 12 8 11

grumpyboy wrote:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

once again the key is in the numbers which are divisible by 6...

this time: 6 = 1, 12 = 11, 18 = 111, 24 = 1111, other numbers = 0

so:
5 12 3 7 9 4 6 11 18 21 17 6 2 8 12 14 13 1 12 23 12 15 6 25 1 7 4 12 22 19 6 3 6 5 18 21 6 5 16 3 24 1 11 6 21 18 4 13 25 2 16 12 3 3 9 5 6 4 12 22 12 8 11

becomes:
01100001011100100110001101101000011001010111010001111001011100000110000101101100

which is: archetypal

next page: http://www.mystes.com/archetypal.html

emailing simonSPLATmystes.com still gives the same auto-reply as before...

Which led to http://www.mystes.com/archetypal

mystes.com/archetypal wrote:

As the cycle turns and the time of crisis comes around, the archetypes return.

I am Simon Magus, Mystae. Do you want to know more?

The auto-reply from Simon is the same as we got before:

Quote:

Date: 25 Aug 2006 20:27:41 -0700
To: Sylvia
From: simon@mystes.com
Subject: [Auto-Reply] I Want To Know More

Congratulations, Nymphus!

Your first trial is a task you must perform for us. Knowledge will be your reward.

Simon

So it looks like one or two things to me either we haven't completed our first trail which is a task we must perform for which Knowledge will be our reward or since the last page said "As the cycle turns and the time of crisis comes around, the archetypes return." maybe there is another path leading from the success / failure emails that we need to find. Confused

Is it possible , we still need to find ***someone who can see into different worlds?*** Confused

And some coincidences all three pages begin with the letter a and the last two were solved being divisible by 6 anthropocosmic, alchemical, archetypal. I'm assuming there will be a least three more pages for a total of 6.

Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 4:09 am

Killalaz
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Thanks for the guide its great for reference.

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Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:35 am

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