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Coded phone call (Justice Forsaken)
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Sice I'm guessing you're referring to me, AngBa, I'd just like to clarify. I don't know who he is. In fact, I'm assuming the 'he.' I don't know 'his' name, age, gender, or anything else about him. I wouldn't want to. All that he's really told me about the game that I didn't know is that he's the one who made the first two puzzles, and that he's not the only PM. We talked about some meta issues, sure. But not as 'Kara to the PM of the game she's playing,' as 'Kara to a person who made a contriversial move that involves Kara personally.' We discussed the events of the weekend, and how important it is for players of any game to mark a message as in-game or out of game.

The way I know that they're late in updating is that he said he'd found a way to fix the weekend events in the game, and it should all be resolved by that night. It isn't like he's sending me game secrets or update schedules. Also, before the trail went cold, I sent him a reply, and at the end said that to keep myself securley in game, I thought even our OOG meta discussions should stop until the game was over. There's no reason to worry, IMO.

In my above post, I was asking a favor on the behalf of a stranger. But a stranger who has, IMO, shown outstanding moral character and great remorse for a mistake he made. I'll stick up for anyone that I think has those characteristics, whether I know them or not. So don't fear that I know him, or anything about the game that I shouldn't. I'd be mad if I did, because I want to play this game like anyone else.

So, no one needs to worry about me. I know what you know. I had a convo with a minor PM about ethics in ARGs. All ARGs. Ethical issues that had affected me. No more than that.

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Snic
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Bah, I go to watch Silent Hill and Synthesis actually contacts me in-game:

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(22:57:07) S1547NY5: Power over his will
(22:57:22) S1547NY5 logged out.
(23:43:52) S1547NY5 logged in.
(23:44:07) S1547NY5: It is time.
(23:44:45) S1547NY5: http://tpoore.blogspot.com/


Looks like the game is on, we have a new puzzle to work on.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 5:24 am
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Elferien
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Snic wrote:
Bah, I go to watch Silent Hill and Synthesis actually contacts me in-game:

Quote:

(22:57:07) S1547NY5: Power over his will
(22:57:22) S1547NY5 logged out.
(23:43:52) S1547NY5 logged in.
(23:44:07) S1547NY5: It is time.
(23:44:45) S1547NY5: http://tpoore.blogspot.com/


Looks like the game is on, we have a new puzzle to work on.


Weeee Got some Diagrams.. Laughing
And quite a bit of text, too, guess we can get a couple of letters that appear in the Vignere from the years (1960's (to?, or or?) 1970's)
Edit: To encipher s->v it takes d in the key, so
s->v=d (the first year)
s->f=n (the other year)
s->a=i (1920's, that i first missed)
mu->or=yx, (between the years)
mu->to=hu

I also traced any one-letterers present for propable a's and I's, they might be some variables too, though, but i couldn't come up with other one letter english words, so i thought this could be a useful clue.. Wink :
a x3
b x4
c x2
d
e
f
g x2
h
i x5
j

l
m

q
r x3
s x2

u x4
v x2
w x3

y
z x2

There were quite many of these, but if we think of a 10letter vigenére-key, then that times two would make it...(there are 20 different letters)
Also half of the letters (or 9 of them) appear more than onc, those might be the more often happening one-letterer..
which one it is.. propably depends on the text type, if it is narrative, then i'd guess it is I..Rolling Eyes

All this _if_ it is just plain vigenére..
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negativeview
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The diagrams are classic electronics. Wee! I love electronics, though I'm probably rusty by now. I'm working on it though, have five of the output bits figured out so far, working on "reverse engineering" the rest. Interesting puzzle!

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Elferien
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negativeview wrote:
The diagrams are classic electronics. Wee! I love electronics, though I'm probably rusty by now. I'm working on it though, have five of the output bits figured out so far, working on "reverse engineering" the rest. Interesting puzzle!

I don't know electronics that well so...
I gather that you use the two lower diagrams to find out how 11 input letters turn to 9 output ones..?
Edit:
And if so, do you think the diagrams show us how to decipher it, or how it was enciphered..?
Numbers seem to go through unthouched, if that is the first thing to do to the text.. Or is that diagram there to give us the vigenére-key..?
Guess we see when you're finished..Smile
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The first two pages are (I believe) simply to sortof explain the puzzle. The first shows the letter N being broken down into binary, with each bit labelled. The second page simply explains that you use certain labels as binary and reconstruct them into letters.

The other two pages are filled with electronics logic gates and a few other ICs that you can find the logic behind on the Internet. The trick is that you don't have all of the inputs!

I've gotten far enough that I wrote a little script (I'm all about writing programs to make my work easier) that says that one of the following is true:

1) The output is not a plain-text word
2) The output is not in /usr/share/dict/words (unlikely, there are 234,936 words in there)
3) The word is 'Ballerina'

I am now going to assume that the word is ballerina and try to work backward to get the input word(s).

If someone wants to go ahead and work on the text, assuming that the output is the key, then try using ballerina as the key and let me know how it goes.

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Ladies and Getlemen, Ballerina is our keyword! It's the same as before, starting the cipher over with every paragraph. I'm still working on a full translation.

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Yay! I actually helped in a puzzle! The input seems to be either more than one word, or I messed up somewhere. That makes it harder. Since we have verification that the output is correct, I'm going to attend to things that need to be done in the real world. If someone thinks that the input is going to be needed sometime, I'll try reversing everything again.

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You're right. But the question in the first paragraph,
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
What did Ensai Tankado invent?
has an obvious answer with a little googling.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Ensei Tankado invented a code called 'Digital Fortress' in Dan Brown's book of the same name.


But using that as the keyword gives nothing sensical. I'll keep trying to crack this, after work.

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SinJin wrote:
Ladies and Getlemen, Ballerina is our keyword! It's the same as before, starting the cipher over with every paragraph. I'm still working on a full translation.

Perhaps I'm not doint this right, but I can only decipher the first paragraph with the keyword.. Neither restarting the key, or continuing with the same sequence seem to make too much sense..
Perhaps we are to do some more deciphering with the 'Digital fortress' next.. Have to learn what it is first, though. Wink

Here's the first row deciphered:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
EXCELLENT JOB DECODING THE DIGITAL LOGIC CODE WRAP NOW WHAT DID ENSAI TANKADO INVENT

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Elferien wrote:
Perhaps I'm not doint this right, but I can only decipher the first paragraph with the keyword.. Neither restarting the key, or continuing with the same sequence seem to make too much sense..
Perhaps we are to do some more deciphering with the 'Digital fortress' next.. Have to learn what it is first, though. Wink


I, surprisingly, found the text to the book online and just read it. I'm going to put my summary of what seems relevant in spoiler tags as it's a spoiler for the book.

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First, there's some super computer that the NSA has that apparently can brute force _any_ algorithm. Yes, you have to suspend disbelief quite a bit in this book. Tankado didn't like the NSA having that much power, for various reasons, and decided to take the super computer out. He happens to have worked on the computer before he was fired. He bragged about having an unbreakable encryption. To prove it, he encodes the source code using the unbreakable encryption. A well-meaning NSA employee tosses his encrypted source code into the supercomputer to see if it really is unbreakable. The computer goes for almost 24 hours on the code (no previous code took longer than 3 hours). It is eventually revealed that the supercomputer actually did break the encryption, but that it was specially designed so that when it was unencrypted it w as a virus specifically designed for the supercomputer. Toward the end of the book some apparent security expert says that it's a worm, not a virus. Neither virus nor worm seem to work as the key for the next paragraph, however.


Edit: Was the following always in the tpoore posting? I don't immediately recall it being there when I first looked and I'm wondering if it's reactionary:

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NOTE: Don't forget to remove the cleared text when working on the next level. Thank you.


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No, the note is new. I had a window of it up, forgot about it, and opened a new one. In case any of the text changed, I copied down the original text. There are no obvious differences, though, other than the note.

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Quote:
NOTE: Don't forget to remove the cleared text when working on the next level. Thank you.

No, it wasn't, and the diagrams are also missing now, so the input text didn't seem to matter.

I also found the book online, Searched it for Digital fortress and:
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there were some people talking about some "TRANSLTR", used as a key for deciphering the digital fortress decipherer, that is apparently enciphered with its own algorithm.

So perhaps that's our key? (Trying it now..Smile)
Edit: Not. Confused
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SinJin wrote:
No, the note is new. I had a window of it up, forgot about it, and opened a new one. In case any of the text changed, I copied down the original text. There are no obvious differences, though, other than the note.

Erm.. Are you sure the first paragraph, the one we already solved, isn't gone too? as I can't get the first paragraph to encipher with http://math.ucsd.edu/~crypto/java/EARLYCIPHERS/Vigenere.html and Ballerina as the key anymore, though it worked before..
Edit: Heres a better Vigenére Applet, but ballerina still doesn't work for the first paragraph anymore, so it looks like the first paraghraph is already taken out from there.
Ed edited: Got some of it..
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
"Digitalfortress" as the key gives: youhavedonewell*wwrsbsefranrmricgpdmpzzkeeyqagogvi*xgbonerkqpbft*zeozeklh* Still something missing though..

Ed edited ed: Seems like what was going wrong was the applet missing pace when using a letter of the key to a '.' I'm back with the full translation soon.
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TRANSLTR was actually the name of the supercomputer. It wasn't used as a key for anything that I'm aware of.

Yeah, the lack of ballerina working anymore was one of the things that took my by surprise after the second (that I saw) update when the diagrams disappeared. Does anyone happen to have a copy of the old page, and can you verify that what we see now as the first paragraph was the second from before? Are we still looking for the digital fortress key for the second paragraph or has _everything_ changed on us?

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