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[SOLVED] dina update.. lots of song clips [Nov 6]
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niobexrev
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 		What's been done:

Song 1
Song 2 - Leyenda for solo guitar - Isaac Albeniz
Song 3
Song 3
Song 8
Song 4 – New World Symphony (4th movement Allegro con fuoco) by Antonin Dvorak
Song 9 - Zigeunerweisen - Sarasate
Song 5 - Invitation to the Dance by Carl Maria von Weber
Song 6
Song 6
Song 10 - Debussy's Reverie - Debussy
Song 5 - Invitation to the Dance by Carl Maria von Weber
Song 7 - Piano Concerto in a 3rd mvt. - by Grieg
Song 11 - Danse macabre - Saint-Saens
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Marl64
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Jeromy wrote:
Emericana wrote:
Is that an out line of heismissing?

sure looks like it


I'm gonna have to disagree here.


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bakntime
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 		My post on the last page was at the bottom, and I wouldn't want anyone to miss it Wink...

Here's the link that the song clips leads to:

http://dina.thenekodas.com/balladsoffrogs.html

Here's how I stumbled onto it (I've always wanted to quote myself, too):

bakntime wrote:
Here's what appears to be confirmed so far:
Code:

1 2 3 3 8 4 9 5 6 6 10 5 7 11
- A - - A D S - F F  - - G S


I took those confirmed letters, and somehow the rest just popped into place Wink

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 		Nice work, Bakntime!

These Dina "secret paths" are very odd and unusual. I can't for the life of me figure out why they exist, or why they would be here...

I think we can call this specific puzzle SOLVED, but now where do we go?
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chancesend wrote:
Nice work, Bakntime!

These Dina "secret paths" are very odd and unusual. I can't for the life of me figure out why they exist, or why they would be here...



No kidding...

http://dina.thenekodas.com/balladsoffrogs.html

Quote:

what we didn't want to do was start over what we didn't want to do was let someone else make our decisions for us what we didn't want was an extra side of apathy with our order and oh ethan how we tried, we tried so hard to remember clinging to that rock face, sisyphus and and prometheus both how we loved and lost and won the battle lost the war

those rounds those squares those angles this chair my love and you - there could be a place a place a place here
her
her
her
him
me
alone
it's so cold here in the house right now such a sense of foreboding and i can feel the other side of this wall, almost as if i could put my hand right through it i am afraid to try because i think right now in these hours of hell and steel i just might, like a ghost, and then i will lose you i will pass through and i will subsist on ghostly meagerness and memory of you, and you will not know how to follow me


this panic is like a shaking bundle of clanging heavy cords of metal, wire jangling and shrieking with aggression and cold. i am so cold right now, hands are numb and fingertips icy - our dear boy he is smiling and he is ours and i never want to let him go. we made a promise, to each other, and to him, to never let him go but those hands too strong to be anything but authority defined, they pulled us like taffy, they stretched our world thin and it snapped and suddenly the messy room and the posters and the video games and the teenaged voice were gone gone gone oh how we were supposed to take care of him, and now he's gone he may be dead and we have failed, love

my boy. my beautiful little boy.

aeschylus scratches on his tablet and we are represented by faceless chorus and meager settings. this is the wasteland, you and i here and alone and pounding against the end of the world, never able to break the glass and breathing the air that's gone heavy and stale with ignorance.

my memories! these floods of emotion are almost too much to bear. every hour they plague me, like fire racing across my scalp, and i am gasping, sobbing, my pulse rate is too high, and then it's gone. like a fever, it breaks. and then it is back again: my alarm clock used to have blue lcd, my favorite piece of music is 2 minutes longer than the one i know now, i used to have such a fondness for cinnamon. wracked, wrung, wrong.


Some crazy speculation:

Jesse = Caesar = Dina's lost son.

Perhaps some of this poetry is Dina "remembering" things that she had forgotten. Her memories, perhaps, were erased/changed at some point? Like they were going to do for Cypher in the first movie?

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Marl64
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chancesend wrote:
Nice work, Bakntime!

Yeah, nice job.
chancesend wrote:
I think we can call this specific puzzle SOLVED, but now where do we go?

Well how about figuring out what we got from it.

deadcafe.html => deadcafe.jpg, cafedead.jpg
triad.html => belcanto.jpg, whisper.jpg
balladsoffrogs.html => balladsoffrogs.jpg, frogballads.jpg

here's my first contribution...
Code:
bel can·to (bl känt)
n.
A style of operatic singing characterized by full, even tones and a brilliant display of vocal technique.
Seems to me odd that the naming convention for the other two is not used for triad.html

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bakntime wrote:
Some crazy speculation:

Jesse = Caesar = Dina's lost son.

Hey why stop there, let's get really crazy Very Happy
Jesse = Caesar = Dina's lost son = James Avery's son
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Dare
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Seems to me odd that the naming convention for the other two is not used for triad.html


Maybe there is a third? Maybe there is something behind Dina's "i'm holding on" post? I mean why post that at all? I just don't get it.

Also, in balladsoffrogs, Dina mentions Aeschylus, who is known for introducing the "second actor" and directly involving the chorus in the action of the play. This was back during the times when plays were composed of just one actor (playing multiple parts), and the chorus danced and exchanged dialogue with the actor. Maybe a possible tie-in with "bel canto"?

And interestingly enough, legend has it that Aeschylus met his death when an eagle dropped a tortoise on his bald head, mistaking it for a rock.

Is there a connection? Maybe, maybe not... just throwing out ideas here.

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Dare wrote:
Maybe there is a third?

Yeah, that was what I was thinking, particularly since triad could have a second meaning in the context of the game;

Tri Ad - 3 addresses?

I know little about music, so need help from someone who does..

Is there any connection between "Whisper" and "Belcanto", and a possible third term that links them?

Could they represent two terms in a list with a missing middle term?
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 		What I'm wondering is why would someone do things like using filenames to code for a secret web address? I know it's helpful within the context of the game, but why would Dina point people to other secret sites? Is it some kind of subconsious thing?

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 		[quote="Marl64"]
Dare wrote:
Is there any connection between "Whisper" and "Belcanto", and a possible third term that links them?

Could they represent two terms in a list with a missing middle term?


Seems logical, since .Bach and .Brahms came out first, which led to the obvious middle link, .Beethoven. Bel Canto is the Romantic Italian ornate singing style, pretty much the exact opposite of whispering. So maybe theres a "Speak"?

Oh, and btw, only one of these pieces is impressionist, the Debussy/Ravel whatever it is. The others are in the Romantic style...

he said, while pushing his glasses up on his nose and adjusting his pocket protector.

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 		What about balladoffrogs.jpg and frogballads.jpg? I can make out butterflies in frogballads.jpg, and candlesticks? chandeliers? or some other metallic object(s) in balladoffrogs.jpg.

Any ideas?
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 		"balladsoffrogs.jpg", "frogballards.jpg" and "cafedead.jpg" contain the same piece of music.

Anyone know what it is?
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joebrent wrote:
Marl64 wrote:
Is there any connection between "Whisper" and "Belcanto", and a possible third term that links them?

Could they represent two terms in a list with a missing middle term?


Seems logical, since .Bach and .Brahms came out first, which led to the obvious middle link, .Beethoven. Bel Canto is the Romantic Italian ornate singing style, pretty much the exact opposite of whispering. So maybe theres a "Speak"?


Darn... I really thought it was going to be mezzo... it's not. Sad

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FlanInTheFace wrote:
What I'm wondering is why would someone do things like using filenames to code for a secret web address? I know it's helpful within the context of the game, but why would Dina point people to other secret sites? Is it some kind of subconsious thing?


Dina seems to actually be communicating with Ethan without telling the rest of the world all her crazy thoughts. She explains it to him on his blog:
Quote:
Ethan:

Oh, I've figured out some of your little puzzles. You're getting so.......creative! Smile
Seriously, I hope you get some relief soon. I'm getting a little worried about you, babe.

Dina:

There used to be this online journal I'd read where the guy would hide all sorts of stuff in his comment codes. He was kind of a punk, anyhow, but I loved pulling up that source code and seeing some sort of diplomatically-veiled comment about his job, and the commented smack. Also coming under his knife were former girlfriends, relatives, and the guy at the bus stop who always pissed him off. It seemed like everyone knew about the comments in the source code; a best-kept secret right out in the open.

I don't have any axes to grind, in that respect, but I also know that I don't want to bother you with this stuff - I'd want for you to seek it out. I also don't want you to worry about me. I really don't.
...
Keep warm, my love. I miss you. And, I am very glad you're writing to me. You are always right here - but tangibles, even semi-tangibles, like text, they help. Ah, melodramatic me.


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bakntime wrote:
My post on the last page was at the bottom, and I wouldn't want anyone to miss it Wink...

Here's the link that the song clips leads to:

http://dina.thenekodas.com/balladsoffrogs.html

Here's how I stumbled onto it (I've always wanted to quote myself, too):

bakntime wrote:
Here's what appears to be confirmed so far:
Code:

1 2 3 3 8 4 9 5 6 6 10 5 7 11
- A - - A D S - F F  - - G S


I took those confirmed letters, and somehow the rest just popped into place Wink


Well, should we go on to find out the rest? Or consider this a puzzle solved? Will the rest of the song names and composers give us another clue?

Song one's composer - B
Song three's composer - L
Song five's composer - O
Song ten's composer - R

Maybe. But I'm doubting it. The PM's probably expected us to find just enough of the composers to find the new website.

Good job.
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