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[UPDATE] Scarlett Kite - 8 Sept 06 - Success!
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cassandra
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[UPDATE] Scarlett Kite - 8 Sept 06 - Success!

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Category: me, 03:59 PM

Cheers to you all! I'm so excited, I hurried over to that mosaic to try some more of your solves this morning while my aunt and uncle were breakfasting, and I got it OPEN! The whole panel on the wall just popped open and inside there was a small letter packet, there's just a piece of paper with some blocky lines on it plus a note I can't read. I hid it under my shirt and I'm going to run off and see if Violet can help me decipher the note later on. I think this looks like another puzzle, though, don't you?

http://www.thescarlettkite.com/paper_full.jpg

Anyway, you must be wondering what the solve was - it turns out to be simpler than anyone had been thinking! I only needed to move two of the tiles to open it. The 2 o'clock tile went 90 degrees counter-clockwise, and the 6 o'clock tile rotated 180 degrees, and then pop! it just opened right up.

Both Brian Rater and Claire Melton sent me this answer, and looking at it, it makes sense, because the resultant pattern leaves only one mosaic tile of each colour on the innermost, outermost, left and right points of the tiles as you look at them from the center, and moreover the colours go through the same pattern.

Sorry it took me so long to get to this, though. I've been writing my placement exams, which have turned out to be much easier than I thought they'd be. This has turned into such a good week!


http://www.thescarletkite.com/archives/2006/09/success.html

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well done to brian and claire Smile

the revealed puzzle could be pretty much anything, but at first glance it reminded me of a bit of neal stephenson's 'cryptonomicon' where one character is walking around london and notes that he could draw a map of london based on stepping up and down kerbs...

it's probably something else entirely, but that's what popped into my head when i saw that image, so there... Smile

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congrats

Good work Brian and Claire! This was a challenge. Now what does that paper mean?
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Re: congrats

rose wrote:
Good work Brian and Claire! This was a challenge. Now what does that paper mean?


Looks like Binary encoding of some kind...

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The new puzzle reminds me of a warioware game where you are a circular figure. There is an indented line above you, and one beneath you (like the lines in the puzzle). The top one begins falling towards the bottom one. Unless you can get to a spot where the to spike is larger than the bottom one, you will be crushed...

It's hard to explain. I'll try to find a picture...

Acutually, I doubt this will help anyway.

I have a feeling that this is a cryptogram of sorts.

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Oh! Maybe it's moorse code! I'll check that right now.

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This is going to drive me nuts. I've seen something like that before, but for the life of me I can't recall where. I want to say it had something to do with music, but that could just be a faulty memory.

Though I'm somewhat struck by the similarity to a barcode of some sort. However, there's too much "dead space" seemingly to work in that regard.
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makomk
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Interesting; trying to figure out if I can read in the lines using PIL and some clever coding. Unfortunately, I'm not too great at image processing...

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I also thought it looked like binary as well, just not sure how to work it out, LOL

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- - -*-*---
- -- *-* -(continues to next line)
*-** * * **

It's hard to tell what's a dot and what's a dash...so I don't want to translate too much and have it be wrong. See if this is anything first.

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32_footsteps wrote:
This is going to drive me nuts. I've seen something like that before, but for the life of me I can't recall where. I want to say it had something to do with music, but that could just be a faulty memory.

Though I'm somewhat struck by the similarity to a barcode of some sort. However, there's too much "dead space" seemingly to work in that regard.


i'm fairly sure i've seen something like this, too. i think it's too sparse for music, though. more likely some form of binary encoding - be that ascii, morse, or some other on-off cipher.

the barcode idea may have merit - if you overlay all of the lines on each other, you get something that looks like an overzealous (if skinny) barcode.

another idea might be to treat each line as a wave, and try adding all the waves to each other. that shoul d give us something with 12 levels of signal, instead of just on or off. *that* might translate to audio, although it'll be an awfully short snippet...

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Edit: I think this fits better in the Puzzle thread; I should probably have posted it there (or started it) in the first place.

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Some observations:

* It's not a simple binary 'on/ off' code, as the peaks vary in width.

* It's not one continuous line, as line 4 ends at the top and line 5 starts at the bottom.
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I think I know where you may have seen a pattern like this before - I just started rereading Cryptonomicon again, and there is a page full of stuff exactly like this somewhere in the first third of the book. The setup is that Lawrence Waterhouse is musing about the curbs in England and how they're sheer vertical drops, and also how the distances between them are seemingly random, such that a light attached to the feet of a man walking down the street in London would produce patterns like the ones in the Scarlett letter. Hope that helps.

EDIT: Because curbs are higher than streets and people usually walk more on curbs than streets, I guess I should point out that the figures in Cryptonomicon were actually upside-down versions of the one we're provided with here.
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just a few ideas for the melting pot.

Let the SPEC begin

I have been wondering if / how Madame B's original hints / predictions might fit in. Originally I had thought the hint:

Quote:
The Eagle (March 11 - April 10)
This is a terrific week for you to seek out some new music. You have to admit your usual rotation is getting a little repetitive, and there's something out there that will make you into a lunatic fan all over again.


Might have been related to the Hesh site but we have had a puzzle involving rotation.

Seek new music - is it possible this is an audio file - albeit a small snippet?

Here endeth the SPEC
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