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[EMAIL] Wes Sep 10 & 11 - Identity & Contacting Oth
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enaxor
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 		[EMAIL] Wes Sep 10 & 11 - Identity & Contacting Oth
Last night after finding the message from page 10, I sent an email to wesSPLATbarrensoul.com. Tonight I got the following message.

Quote:
I knew I could count on somebody figuring out my hidden messages in the Barren Soul material and at last discovering who I was. I have a lot to tell you and yes, I think you may be able to help. But believe me, I know from personal experience, that we need to be careful how "your discovery" gets spread around. That's why I've chosen to reveal myself in this manner to start with.

I have one question to ask you first. Do you live in or know anyone in Aglaura?


Here's what I sent.

Quote:
I've seen your message and know who you are. How can I help?

enaxor


*edit - The above email came from iamweskeelerSPLATbarrensoul.com. Last week I tried several different email addresses, but they all bounced. Last night I sent to several different ones and they didn't bounce.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 2:38 am
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 		Not to steal anyone's thunder, but after nax talked about this in chat, I sent the following message:

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Some interesting pages you have there.
I am part of a little online group trying to help a little town of Aglaura.
Perhaps you know of someone who was there?
I'm sure you do, considering...

11E 3E 27E 17I 28S 26M 10E 20R 8K 4W 7L 15A

I can keep a secret, Reborn Man

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=CitizenKane13

James Steele



*waggles fingers* Oooooh, mysterious.

And thanks Nax n.n If asked I'll be sure to tell him I wasn't the one to make the solve, but just wanted to get correspondance from him Razz
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 2:52 am
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enaxor
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 		[EMAIL] Wes September 11 - Letting Out the Secret
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Yes, it's fine that you messaged Dale and Sam, they are both trustworthy allies, and I'm relieved to see their names on your short list. As to my secrecy, when everything first happened in Aglaura, first changed, and I realized what was going on, I saw a chance to do what I've always wanted. And so, perhaps selfishly in retrospect, I slipped the bonds of my everyday life and went searching for the truth of the mysteries that have always fascinated me, answers to questions I've been asking all my life. On my journey for truth I came face to face with more than a few of my own personal demons and am trying to put things right as best I can.

I know that I hurt some people, especially those closest to me, but unfortunately that couldn't be helped. Through their various blogs and websites, I have kept a watchful eye on these friends of mine, a distant but protective eye. And when I started seeing evidence of what was happening in and around Aglaura, I decided it was time to return. "Give up the Ghost" so to speak.

Believe me I've missed them tremendously and only hope that I have arrived in time to make it up to them. When I initially came back to the area, the first person I ran into was J.D. Willingham. He didn't handle it very well, I'm sure he thought I was some sort of demon come to spirit him away or something - he completely flipped his bonnet - and for the life of me I couldn't convince him otherwise. (Hence his stint in Klepsydra.)

Seeing the effect I had on someone who had known me before "I died" was tough, and I certainly didn't want anyone else to end up so completely traumatized. So I used as surrogate of sorts - Peter from Mysterytown - to lead people to, and help reveal the truth through, the Barren Soul pages and website. So I ask you to be extremely careful about who and how you tell about my having "risen from the ashes". Dale definitely needed to be told, he's strong that one, however I suggest that you use some delicacy when talking to Sam. Get the word out, but only to those you trust beyond measure, and hurry - time is running out.

WK


What I wrote:

Quote:
To answer your question, no I don't live in or near Aglaura. As for knowing anyone there, I have corresponded with Dale Sprague, the author of "Chasing The Wish" comic book, and the girl who runs the Aglaura website, Sam Greene. I must tell you that after finding your message, I did send a message to Dale and Sam, explaining what I found, I hope that was alright.

May I ask why you are being so secretive with your identity? Please tell me if and how I can help.

enaxor

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 		The reply I got:

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Aglaura will need all the help it can muster James Steele, and you do indeed seem like the type who knows how to keep a secret. The items in your video seem very familiar to me, I believe they played an important part in what came before.

When everything first happened in Aglaura, first changed, I saw a chance to do something I've always wanted to do. So, perhaps selfishly in retrospect, I left Aglaura and my everyday life and began a quest for the truth of the mysteries that have always fascinated me, answers to questions I've been asking all my life. During my time away I came face to face with more than a few of my own little demons as well, and I now realize it was perhaps not the way to go. Though at the time it seemed that I would be doing little harm, after all, everyone thought I was dead anyway.

I was afraid that helping people remember the way things were before would change my situation and prevent me from searching for answers to things that have haunted and intrigued me from the time I was a small boy.

Let those you trust know that I am back, however be gentle with those I was close to. I made contact with J.D. Willingham when I first came back and he didn't fare too well, poor guy, and I don't want that happening to anyone else, so please be careful who you tell and how. But do tell, time is short.

WK


I'm going to send a reply asking for a bit of information we could relay that only he'd know that we could pass along, to prove that he's not an imposter to whoever we contact.

[EDIT] Here's what I sent. And yes, the message I had gotten was from iamweskeelerSPLATbarrensoul.com though that wasn't where I had sent the first message.
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WK,

I shall indeed try to be careful when relaying your message, however,
some may not be to believing. Is there a little tidbit of info that
you could relay to prove that it is you behind the info?
I'm sure that if I could relay something along of that nature,
things could go over a little more smoothly.

Also, I'm not to sure that your theory about J.D. is entirely correct.
After all, possession IS nine/tenths of the law.
I believe Hamilton was involved, if that strikes any chords with you.
I'm sure Sarah had blogged about it on the sixth of never.

Those items in my video, they were given to me by a friend, possibly
running from some, er... aquaintances of yours. I know they may not
be exactly good friends of yours, but I'm sure you know of the problems
with their eyes. They may be hanging around your old pal Dale as well,
though Bruce doesn't seem to notice them. Their dead eyes may not phase
him, possibly due to his own drug problems from the past?

What do you think?

CK
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 		I looked at Roman's books and saw something so familiar.....Wes, I'm
so glad it's you!
Sam misses you so much. Please contact her if you can.
konamouse wrote:
Dale is searching for so many answers to the weird dreams (look at his
blog here:
http://www.thewishcomic.com/journal/ (but some of the entries are
"hidden" and you just have to change the date in the url window to
find them).
He has put you in his comic book.
Something happened in the past couple of years related to too many
people making wishes. Dale, Bruce, Sarah for sure, but you or Sam,
maybe Iris, maybe Phyllis or JD. Or even Don Marzent.
Wishes are dangerous. All is not what it seems. Be careful in
contacting anyone back in Aglaura.

Heather


iamweskeelerSPLATbarrensoul.com wrote:
Thank you for the warm welcome Heather. All is indeed not what it seems, and you need to be careful and discreet with whom and how you tell about my return. I had hoped for a welcoming from J.D. Willingham when, after learning what was going on in Aglaura, I made the decision to come back to help, but understandably he didn't handle it too well. I realize that not everyone is going to believe I'm alive, but you must tell those you trust.

I took the creation of the comic book as a sign that Dale was beginning to remember what happened before, too. And yes, Wishes can be very dangerous things.
WK


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I realize that not everyone is going to believe I'm alive, but you must tell those you trust.


I take that as we should go ahead and tell Sam; okay, try to convince Sam; that Wes is alive.
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 		Re: [EMAIL] Wes September 11 - Letting Out the Secret
Similar in tone, though not in text. (And Wes was very kind and didn't tweak me at all about saying "Sarah" when I meant "Sam" Embarassed )

Wes wrote:
I have no plans to trifle with anyone, Mr. Sifter. I am merely concerned with what is going on in Aglaura at present and the way those who were closest with me are told about my, for lack of a better word, resurrection. I have already seen one friend go off the deep end when I came face to face with J.D. Willingham, and I don't wish to see it happen to anyone else. I know I will have to prove myself to those I care about, and believe me I don't take that lightly.

I have sought the truth of the mysteries that have always fascinated me, answers to questions I've been asking all my life, and come face to face with many of my own personal demons. I've come away from this journey with more knowledge than I sought, important knowledge that may help Aglaura, but time is running short. Tell those you trust, and only those you trust, tell those who were closest to me gently, but do tell for we are against a great wall and time is our biggest enemy.

WK

The nasty suspicious part of my brain thinks that this would be a good time to remind everyone of this:

Simon wrote:
There is one who would destroy everything we seek to
preserve, but it is not who you believe it to be. This
one wears a different mask, a disguise, a façade of
truth that hides the dark intent within.

He must not be allowed to succeed. The world he
seeks is not yours

When he comes to you, tell us and we will help you. It
is the only way.

You will know him by the faces he wears. You will know
him by the lies he tells. He is the Devil walking out of
the dark yet speaking of the face of God.

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 		Hear hear.
I second that as I've been saying it all along.

We can't be sure this is REALLY Wes, or even the Wes we know.
Not quite yet.
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 		Re: [EMAIL] Wes Sep 10 & 11 - Identity & Contacting
(Not that we have any particular reason to trust Simon Magus, either...)
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 		I sent an email to Simon;
Quote:
Subject: He Has Come

Tell me what must be done.

The reply:
Quote:
"Congratulations, Nymphus!...(Blah, blah)


I'm gonna go with trusting Sam's statement that Wes couldn't possible be alive. Wes coming back to life just seems too much like a trap set by someone who's desperation is reaching critical mass.
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And as for our "story", it makes a much better short-term plot twist to pique our curiosity than a major component of the story in toto.
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 		This is what i received:

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Thank you for the warm welcome Dashcat. After learning of what's been going on in Aglaura, I have come back to do what I can, although it will be a very steep hill, we will climb it together.

When everything first happened in Aglaura and I realized what was going on, I saw the chance to do something I've always wanted. And so I resigned from my everyday life and went on a quest for the truth of the mysteries that have always fascinated me, for answers to questions I've been asking all my life. At the time it seemed that I would be doing little harm, after all, everyone thought I was dead anyway. I came face to face with more than a few of my own personal little demons while on my journey but now I'm trying to put things right.

Get the word out of my return, but only to those you trust completely, and in a carefully controlled manner, J.D. Willingham didn't fare too well when I showed up face to face, and I'd hate to see that happen to anyone else.


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 		Should we let Todd know his dad's back from the grave?
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 		I wouldn't tell Todd. I think the only ones that need to know now are Dale and Sam. In the past, Todd and Wes have had problems. Plus, Wes is his father and if he wants him to know - he should tell him.

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 		I've had a rough couple of days and I've got a headache from (fill in the blank) so i hope what I'm about to say makes sense.
First here is my short email from Wes, basically the same as everyone Else's.
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Thank-you Sylvia, for both your concern and your trust. When everything first happened in Aglaura and I realized what was going on, I saw the chance to do something I've always wanted. And so I resigned from my everyday life and went on a quest for the truth of the mysteries that have always fascinated me, for answers to questions I've been asking all my life. I came face to face with more than a few of my own personal demons while on my journey and I'm now trying to put things to right as best I can.

Get the word out Sylvia, but only to those you trust with your soul, time is short and we have much to do

WK

As for me personally, I trust Wes 100%. My list of suspects for who not to trust are:
1. Bruce, to a certain extent. He says he doesn't see what Dale sees so either he really doesn't or he is trying to make Dale look insane or he's working with them.
2. Anyone or anything to do with Marzent which includes Diana and everyone on the AIN who is associated with Marzent.
3. Simon and mystes.com/ or anything they have to say but then I've never put much faith in an Ism.
4. Simon Smythe who i believe has something to do with mystes.com
5. And, I'm beginning to wonder about Turing Principle

Here is the part from Wes I believe to be most important:
Quote:
When everything first happened in Aglaura and I realized what was going on, I saw the chance to do something I've always wanted.

This tells me that Wes has a pretty good understanding of what's going on.
I believe that Sam is ready to deal with the return of Wes, read below for my proof, and on top of that I believe Wes is going to be a major character in saving Aglaura and it's citizens from what ever Digitalis is warning Dale about, etc..

Wes to enaxor
Quote:
And when I started seeing evidence of what was happening in and around Aglaura, I decided it was time to return.

Wes to Citizen Kane
Quote:
Aglaura will need all the help it can muster...The items in your video seem very familiar to me, I believe they played an important part in what came before.... I was afraid that helping people remember the way things were before would change my situation and prevent me from searching for answers to things that have haunted and intrigued me from the time I was a small boy.

Wes to konamouse
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All is indeed not what it seems,... I took the creation of the comic book as a sign that Dale was beginning to remember what happened before, too.

Wes to Shad0
Quote:
I've come away from this journey with more knowledge than I sought, important knowledge that may help Aglaura, but time is running short.

Now i will bring to every one's attention the following AINs: http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=271705

Sam to Shelina
Quote:
Pilar,

I think I'm beginning to understand. Whoever this Roman guy is... he's hiding. Why? Is he afraid of someone? Something? What does this all have to do with me? And Dale? Does this have anything to do with all of this Marzent craziness? The caves...the machines...

This is all Wes's area of expertise. Stories of the Pine Barrens, mysterious storytellers and secret codes. I can't stop wishing that he were here to help me figure all of this out. I can't stop thinking about him.

Sam

And from Sam's AIN to Sandra:
Quote:
I don't understand what's going on Sandra... Why did Roman contact me? And why can't I stop thinking about Wes when I look at this stuff.

And to Shelina:
Quote:
Dale said he's seen men watching his house from a car out on the street. I'm very worried, Pilar. First Keith sees these men kill Brad in the woods. Then they start to chase him. Now Dale and possibly whoever is behind the Barren Soul site are in trouble? Are they really just Marzent thugs or something more wicked? Are they the ones who started to Aglaura fires? What else have they done?

Sam

And this enaxor received from Sam:
Quote:
enaxor,

Sorry I didn't get back to you about Peter. I thought I had let everyone know. I guess my brain hasn't been at full capacity lately. This Roman guy has really gotten to me. In a lot of ways he does remind me of Wes... his interest in the Barrens, his mysterious puzzles... and even the way he writes on the website. Or maybe I'm just filling in the blanks with things I'm already familiar with. I've been thinking about Wes a lot lately... probably because of all the weird happenings here in Aglaura.

I know a good number of people think that this guy is really somehow Wes. I wish that were possible. I wish that Wes had just taken off for a lengthy vacation or skipped town. I saw what happened the night he died. If this Roman guy ended up being Wes, I'd have to start believing in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny again. That sort of magic just doesn't happen in real life. Does it?

Sam

Looks like Sam got her wish.

Last but not least from Dale's journal: http://www.thewishcomic.com/journal/071906.html

Quote:
July 19, 2006: "The more I look, the more I find." That's something my old friend Wes Keeler used to say to me all the time, when I would ask him why he kept searching out and buying strange artifacts, old books, and the like. As simple as the answer is, it took me quite a while to realize that he wasn't just talking about the physical items he was accumulating when he said, "the more I find."

I miss Wes. His smile, his wit, his fine-tuned bullshit meter that could pick out the truly weird and unusual from the "alien autopsy" kind of crap. I sure could use him now. He could help me make sense of this all, put the pieces together in a way that makes an actual picture rather than just a chaotic collage of meaningless fragments. He was also probably the only person I've ever known who I could honestly say I thought was happy. Not momentarily, not based on circumstance or condition, just truly and deeply happy with Life.

But he's not here, not any longer, and I've got to accept that. I can't change history, only learn from the knowledge it offers. If I'm smart enough to understand what it is teaching.

It's all about putting together the pieces. I once thought that meant I needed to find the one true combination and orientation of pieces that would show me THE picture, the secret meaning and answer I've been chasing, literally all my life. I've wasted most of my life searching for that one solution, that one image that at last made all the pieces and my life make sense.

I realize now that there is no one solution, no one answer that puts all the pieces in place for you and provides meaning to your life. All we have are the pieces, and they can be put together to make almost any picture we can imagine. Or deserve.

Someone has been trying to put the pieces together in a way that threatens everything I know and love. Not just in the case of these fires, and the way they've been arranged to point at me; that's just the latest and most obvious example. It's everything, going back to the dreams, the Chasing The Wish story, Hell, maybe even back to the time of Wes's death. Who knows? He sure seems to be wrapped up in all this, somehow. It's truly terrifying to think about how far back and how involved this is. There are even traces of this buried in that Incunabula stuff, in a way I'm not sure I understand yet.

Part of that realization is the understanding that I can put the pieces together too though, in a way that doesn't cause loss and pain, and the end of everything I care for. That's what Wes's life was all about when I think about it - putting together the pieces of the world in a way that made sense and satisfied him. So that's what I've begun to do. ....


Going back to the archetypes, Wes to me would be what Jung coined as "The Hero" and he would represent the runestone that Sarah found or in other words according to the Enneagram personality types.:
Quote:
Eight: Leader, Protector, Challenger - Eights are motivated by justice and the desire to be in the right. They worry about self-protection and control. They are natural leaders, who can be capable and passionate or dictatorially manipulative, ruthless, and willing to destroy anything in their way. Eights seek control over their own life and their own destiny and fear being harmed or controlled by others. The corresponding "deadly sin" of the Eight is Lust, while the Eight's "holy idea" or essence is Holy Truth. Under stress, Eights express qualities of the Five, and when flourishing, they express qualities of the Two.


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 		Thank you so much for that recap. It really helps. Good work.

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 		Just got a 2nd reply to my email...
Quote:
Your intuitive leap is impressive, to recognize the demon behind the mask.

Can you show discretion of the same level in protecting this knowledge?

He wears the face of everyman, this usurper of forbidden knowledge. Mankind has been freely gifted with many kinds of wisdom and the free will to pollute that wisdom. Yet there is one who would take from the Gods that which is not his to secure, that which was never meant for humankind, and will attempt to taint these mysteries. He possesses knowledge of things that were, things that are, and things yet to be. He is a haunter of dreams, a thief of the night. Bring him to us and we will bind you in oath and your reward shall be your Deliverance.

To your willingness, we will provide the way.

Simon


This leads to:
http://mystes.com/deliverance.html
Another read-between-the-lines but with the above message
So, we're no longer seeking knowledge, but deliverance. (Didn't I just find that?)

Hmmm... What to do??? What to do???
Should I play the mind-control card?
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My reply;
Quote:
Are you to grant me my deliverance? You describe but yourself..
He has come. Tell me what must be done.

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