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[LOCKED] [TRAILHEAD] LG15 / CassieIsWatching possible ARG
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jazzman831
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Just to play a little thought excercise here...

Let's say that the creators had the ARG idea the whole time, but they were going to lead into better. They would probably over time edge the videos into a darker mindset, weeding out the younger viewers (and pedophiles...). Then they would start showing things like "In the park." I mean, that was a creepy video! Then after we are all on our toes something would happen to Bree perhaps. This would be followed by an introduction to cassieiswatching, and the start of the game.

Now that is all speculation, one version of a possible reality. If we go on the assumption that the above is true, and that we interrupted their plans, what are the outcomes? For one, you have a lot of younger, less mature viewers interested in it (go to the LG forums to see this is true). Presumably the scary videos would scare these veiwers away since it is an entirely different genre than the sweet, loveable lonelygirl15 storyline. If that does not work, but you want to keep the game, what should you do? TINAG. This will keep the younger, less mature, and less interested viewers from doing anything stupid, dangerous, or gamebreaking, but will not deter the diehard ARGers or the more responsible LG fans.

Granted, this is not something that one would come up with given the starting conditions and working towards the present, but it seems to work the other way around. Hindsight is 20/20 and all...

Let's look at it the other way. Take as an assumption that cassieiswatching is just a fan spinoff. There are many things in these videos that seem lucky, but are plausible. What about the official lg15 videos though? If this isn't related to the game, then why all the mystery? Satanist imagery? The bandage on the arm with no mention? The perfect, conservative Bree acting very strangely in the "In the Park" video, almost as if on drugs? Not to mention pills?

I think the TINAG theory answers more questions than TIAFF (this is a fan fiction). But we will have to wait and see. (It's almost 10PST if I can subtract right!)

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Conway
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Arkaham wrote:
Ok, here's my theory:

LG15 crew is at the top of popularity. Still not MTV, but with many journalists after them.

Someone on the crew thinks about turnign things into a really creepy ARG. The others are unsure, but since they're experimenting and things are working well they tell him to go on with it. They give him the character of cassie, who was planned to be Bree's girlfriend or whatever, and their blessings to go to the pond and park.

They won't help directly, since they're busy with bree.

ARG guy does cassieiswatching, while LG15 people get full media attention.

ARG guy involves charles manson on it, the forums go crazy, the video gets flagged.

LG15 people goes 'WTF'? that's not the kind of publicity they need when they already have a thelema cult on their hands. ARG guy says it's fine. LG15 disagree. They do not want nothing to do with it, he can go on on his own, but they'll state it's not official.


All we need to prove this is for Bree to go outside again, and then for cassie to not know the place. If Bree's secret location gets deciphered by cassie a third time, I'm saying LG15 people are full of BS, or cassie is actually a real ghost.


Im new to gaming but I think your right...also at this point its all about keeping people safe and not doing stupid things after getting caught up in the emotions that have been stirring....

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drinkmonsters
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Arkaham wrote:

All we need to prove this is for Bree to go outside again, and then for cassie to not know the place. If Bree's secret location gets deciphered by cassie a third time, I'm saying LG15 people are full of BS, or cassie is actually a real ghost.



maybe thats what the creators want us to believe.

Creators: "its not us we swear... someone is doing this..."

US: "its an arg, you know it, come on spill the beans."

Creators: "Cassie is out there.. watching you. be AFRAID!!!"

shock horror args could be the next thing after this little cassie plot. and i'm really looking forward to it.. Very Happy

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rachelalexis
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It creeps the crap out of me, but I will probably be lurking, wanting to know what goes on, hoping it's not anything too sinister. "Cassie" justs seems to have gone to a lot of trouble if all they wanted to do was hurt someone, they could have easily gone after a player when they went to a spot like the lake all alone (like I've heard several did).

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toadlguy
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I'm just a bit confused. What exactly is "unsafe" here - spooky, yes, but unsafe. If this is supposed to be a horror concept, which certainly all the official clues were leading to, then this will keep happening anyways with the official story line. Nothing, as far as I can tell has been remotely "unsafe". Who exactly are all these wackos - almost everyone on the forums has been incredibly cautious and concerned about everyone else it seems to me.

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drinkmonsters
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http://www.casting-calls.org/THECHILDRENOFANCHORCOVE


If you take a look at this link, it shows the casting call for the lonely girl series.
Spoiler (Rollover to View):

as you will see there is a supporting actress role to be filled. i see that supporting female to be cassie. so, they have to introduce her somehow into the story... maybe not the cassieiswatching way, but she will be there. we just have to wait and see how she develops into the vision of the creators.


EDIT: Spoilerized the info, because i'm not sure how this information is supposed to be received.[/spoiler]

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Kinmar
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Quick question for you CU. In your first video when you found the tarot card. At the end you film someone looking in the bag. Yet later on Nilla finds the bag in the water again? just wondering how the bag ended up back in the water after you saw a guy looking through it.

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baggage
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Can the creators do that? Make Cassieiswatching and then deny they are part of it, even though they are? I mean, they've already been busted once. If they get busted a second time, especially doing something that is tasteless, all this popularity and excitement about them will be severely compromised.

The more I think about it, the more someone who was set on doing this could figure out those locations. The videos are 3 or 4 days after the LG15 videos. Someone who had this in mind would assume the outdoor locations were filmed in the LA/Hollywood area because this is where the indoor locations are filmed. Then they just start researching. Even if it took you a day or two to figure it out, that still gives you two days to film and edit and post.

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Conway
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baggage wrote:
Can the creators do that? Make Cassieiswatching and then deny they are part of it, even though they are? I mean, they've already been busted once. If they get busted a second time, especially doing something that is tasteless, all this popularity and excitement about them will be severely compromised.

The more I think about it, the more someone who was set on doing this could figure out those locations. The videos are 3 or 4 days after the LG15 videos. Someone who had this in mind would assume the outdoor locations were filmed in the LA/Hollywood area because this is where the indoor locations are filmed. Then they just start researching. Even if it took you a day or two to figure it out, that still gives you two days to film and edit and post.


this is possible but really but of a long fetch than the idea of they are loosely connected and now with it gettng out of hand they dont want to hurt what they have going for them...because its true their on thin ice right now but can recover after the Jessica Rose reveal...plus it was just getting dangerous with kids wanting to run out to vague clues.

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meghan2
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to find a playground is one thing but to find an exact location in a national forest? when given no real prior clues...possible but unlikely...to me at least?...does anyone know if someone still decided to go out to that park?

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grantsnx
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baggage wrote:
Can the creators do that? Make Cassieiswatching and then deny they are part of it, even though they are? I mean, they've already been busted once. If they get busted a second time, especially doing something that is tasteless, all this popularity and excitement about them will be severely compromised.

The more I think about it, the more someone who was set on doing this could figure out those locations. The videos are 3 or 4 days after the LG15 videos. Someone who had this in mind would assume the outdoor locations were filmed in the LA/Hollywood area because this is where the indoor locations are filmed. Then they just start researching. Even if it took you a day or two to figure it out, that still gives you two days to film and edit and post.


I dunno.. after coming out about the whole thing being fake, LG15 became the most subscribed user on Youtube. and her videos are consistently number 1.

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Arkaham
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Cu Roi wrote:
Right now the clue I retrieved is leading us nowhere...and wasn't a very intriguing puzzle.


Not intriguing??? Man, you must have seen some really interesting puzzles in all your time as an ARG-er to say that. I was shocked. Then again, I'm a noob.

On related news... The Creators official announcement is up. In alissa's forum they locked every cassie thread. In the official forum they're regulating it (i.e. no manson discussions). I'm worried all the cassie related trafic heads this way now.

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afierce
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I know that a lot of people are going with the theory that Cassie is dead and was perhaps murdered by either Bree or Daniel or a cult, but I wanted to put another thought out there to be considered... I'm not sure if this has already been talked about, as it's impossible for me to keep up with every LonelyGirl topic out there, but in case it hasn't...

Has the possibility that Bree and Cassie could be the same person been discussed? As Bree said she was home schooled and didn't have a lot of friends growing up, it's not uncommon for children that are lonely to make up imaginary friends. Kids can be very creative, and sometimes these imaginary playmates can become very life like, with backgrounds, histories, personalities... they can start to manifest as very believable people, and become as real as flesh to the person manifesting them – becoming almost an "alter-ego" of the person.

Imagine Cassie was an imaginary friend of Bree's. An alter-ego. To Bree, Cassie was as real as flesh itself... someone she used to "walk the tracks" with. When a person with an imaginary friend such as that meet's a new friend, their alter-ego is no longer needed, therefore "goes away". When Bree became very good friends with Daniel, she no longer needed her friend Cassie, so Cassie just stopped being manifested. This would explain why Daniel did not know who Cassie was, and also why Bree thought she was in Daniel's class (because it was herself in Daniel's class).

Bree mentioned that Cassie was picked on - as was Bree picked on like she described in her "Poor Pluto" video. This would be because in reality they were the same incidents. In the cassieiswatching videos, both places that she has been ("I was here") are places that Bree was. Cassieiswatching could be the manifestation of Cassie by Bree once again.

As if Cassie had never really "went away", she became a side of Bree that knows things that Bree has become oblivious to. Things like the truth of what is about to happen to her. Cassie is now reappearing to save Bree. She is trying to save herself.

Farfetched?

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Conway
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afierce wrote:
I know that a lot of people are going with the theory that Cassie is dead and was perhaps murdered by either Bree or Daniel or a cult, but I wanted to put another thought out there to be considered... I'm not sure if this has already been talked about, as it's impossible for me to keep up with every LonelyGirl topic out there, but in case it hasn't...

Has the possibility that Bree and Cassie could be the same person been discussed? As Bree said she was home schooled and didn't have a lot of friends growing up, it's not uncommon for children that are lonely to make up imaginary friends. Kids can be very creative, and sometimes these imaginary playmates can become very life like, with backgrounds, histories, personalities... they can start to manifest as very believable people, and become as real as flesh to the person manifesting them – becoming almost an "alter-ego" of the person.

Imagine Cassie was an imaginary friend of Bree's. An alter-ego. To Bree, Cassie was as real as flesh itself... someone she used to "walk the tracks" with. When a person with an imaginary friend such as that meet's a new friend, their alter-ego is no longer needed, therefore "goes away". When Bree became very good friends with Daniel, she no longer needed her friend Cassie, so Cassie just stopped being manifested. This would explain why Daniel did not know who Cassie was, and also why Bree thought she was in Daniel's class (because it was herself in Daniel's class).

Bree mentioned that Cassie was picked on - as was Bree picked on like she described in her "Poor Pluto" video. This would be because in reality they were the same incidents. In the cassieiswatching videos, both places that she has been ("I was here") are places that Bree was. Cassieiswatching could be the manifestation of Cassie by Bree once again.

As if Cassie had never really "went away", she became a side of Bree that knows things that Bree has become oblivious to. Things like the truth of what is about to happen to her. Cassie is now reappearing to save Bree. She is trying to save herself.

Farfetched?


this is funny cause I have entertained this idea myself.

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rachelalexis
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So if I'm thinking right, it should have hit 10 on the west coast. Did anyone get any calls?

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