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[Layloken]

I'm glad the forum is back.

Ard, I think that the coin shows the head of Constantinus II.

Here's a match of it:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d76/layloken/constantinusII-2004-solidus-Caes-ob.jpg

And here's a little information on him.

http://www.roman-emperors.org/constaii.htm

I'll try to delve more in to how Constantinus II could be related to all this later.

[ardiente]

[AngBa]

Ok, so I've had a little bit of communication with the Dr. I've tossed up posting the entire conversation, but after receiving the last email, I think I should.. (and again, I LOVE this guy's sense of humor!!!)

[Layloken]

Well AV means "down, of, by, off, or at" in Swedish. They also have an organization named Arbetsmiljöverket at http://www.av.se/. I don't believe any of that is really going to be helpful considering their mission statement:

[brandoblues]

ard your rotating of the postcard starts looking like zodiac killer stuff. wasnt that guy into codes and such?

[Machina Kyrios]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_developmental_biology

I'm starting to see some connections. The trip to the Vatican. The images of demons and death next to that of alchemic study. The importance of his medical work.

I'm getting the feeling that AV might be seeing the good doctor's work as pissing in the eye of a higher being.

Wild speculation, just firing shots off into the dark. Dr. Peiper may be working on some kind of human evolution. One of the three goals of alchemy was to find a way to extend Human life indefinately, while another was to change humanity entirely. Also, looking at the first video, if the above is true, then perhaps the statement is aimed directly at Dr. Peiper and his work as being the end of humanity. Then the third video, one can see a chain of events. Alchemists studying, someone being chopped up (vivisection?), a demon in plain sight as if it belonged there, people around a fire where human flesh is cooking and enjoying what has been done, torment by demons, and finally a skull - the universal symbol of death, along with the letters we all know.

Blame my rampant apophenia. Like I said, just a bit of wild speculation.

[AngBa]

Machina - that's exactly what I thought after reading up on Evo-Devo. That his scientific work (that relates directly to Darwinism) and a trip to the Vatican, I am assuming to present his research and get the blessing of the Church to continue might have hacked off a religious group - since the underlying theme of all of the videos seems to be centered around brutality and death with religious overtones... I've asked the Dr. if he could elaborate on any of his research, but he hasn't responded to me yet (oddly, since he has been very good about follow up).

That said, ardiente is right that we don't know enough about the good Dr. to know that he is in fact a "good" doctor as of yet. I have a feeling that pretty soon someone will be contacted from someone affiliated with AV soon and we will be told to steer clear of him...

(and there ends my wild speculation and theorizing for now...)

[daihiey]

hope I get as good as you guys at these things some day

Hmmm well after watching number 3 again, I was wondering...what language is that Maybe theres some type of message in what the voices are saying. Also tryed playing it backwards for some strange reason nothing came out of that...Meh cant think of anything then just trying to wait for replys from him or mroe videos and stuff

[GuyIncognito]

[AngBa]

While I agree with Guy - I will wait and see, I know that it's easy to read into seemingly unintentional coincidences when searching... I do see that there are interesting coorelations that have been put together though.

...That being said, I received more correspondance with the Dr., so I thought I would share - if this takes any more of a facist or racist turn, I will be the first to jump ship...

[GuyIncognito]

[ardiente]

Laurel Hall - got a number of hits for that name. This seems the most likely:

http://www.laurel-hall.org/index.htm

Google's cache of that site is dated 26 Jul 2006 - fairly recent so it might be worth inspecting closer.

Link for more on Ruth Lilly

As for the fascist connections - they keep cropping up. The arrow cross is a fascist symbol I've never seen before (and I've seen a few - I have ... erm... crossed swords with British fascists on a number of occasions), but frankly it doesn't surprise me. Start playing with icons like the spear, or indeed anything neo-classical, and you'll find an image used by one group of boneheads or another...

It is particularly strong in that rotated image however and the American Victory connection is equally persuasive. It deserves to be born in mind in any future developments.

There's no need to back away however. Indeed to my mind it is more important to investigate further if there is any chance of this game being hijacked for fascist propaganda. I agree that the nature of the pace so far doesn't give too much hope for an incisive narrative, but I disagree completely that such things should never be attempted. If someone is genuinely trying to articulate ideas of genetic heredity, of political history, of individual desire and social obligation (and the conflicts that arise) then it would be a shame for such ambition not to be tested, just because it just feels... well, a bit dodgy.

Is this becoming what's known as a meta discussion?

EDIT:

[AngBa]

More interaction - I really don't know what to think at this point... I'm getting responses, but they don't tell us anything - UNLESS we are to take some of the subtle proddings as clues...


My response to the email I posted above:

[daihiey]

[ardiente]