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Belsthar
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Could the infinity symbol (circled) be a stylized phi? Or perhaps an over-stylized fei from the Coptic alphabet?
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Could the infinity symbol (circled) be a stylized phi?
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 9:23 am
Arkaham
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Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 353
It's definitively not greek. Only a couple of signs could be greek, like the capital 'pi', or the capital 'niu' or the lower cap 'lambda'. And those are pretty common shapes.
I'd bet is a mixture of 'magic' alphabeths. Like these :http://www.pathcom.com/~newmoon/alpha.htm . Sadly I don't have the time right now to look for every sign on that skull.
So far no replies from AV.
A friend of mine passed by the computer as I was looking at the pictures (specifically the 'topwriting' ones), and asked me: "What is that man doing to that skull?! Dude, you do have some sick tastes in internet porn."
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 1:06 pm
AngBa
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Joined: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 532 Location: the pit of misery, KS
Ok, I'm feeling better now, and will start looking too - The Dr. just said he "must talk to me before he goes" - but hasn't responded to me at all.
Our Dr. can't leave us!!!!!
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 1:07 pm
Esteed
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Arkaham wrote:
A friend of mine passed by the computer as I was looking at the pictures (specifically the 'topwriting' ones), and asked me: "What is that man doing to that skull?! Dude, you do have some sick tastes in internet porn."
Dude, there should be an ARG where you have to mess with porn images. Or even a deaddrop where the players discover the clue is scribbled on a Playboy or something. I gather that would be a game kids shouldn't get into, though, lol.
_________________"The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll look down and whisper "No."" -Rorschach
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 1:30 pm
oraclle
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Joined: 03 Sep 2006 Posts: 129 Location: Mission Control
I was thinking it was alchemical symbols but I can't find some of the skull symbols in the document I was looking at. That said - there are a few sites on alchemical symbols on the web and I've yet to see two look identical so it's still possible.
Also there is an AV symbol in alchemy - it means Aqua Vitae or water of life.
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 1:47 pm
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GoodChild
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Joined: 25 Feb 2006 Posts: 616 Location: Solitary Confinement
i'm voting for micture of alphabets too. I spent all morning looking at alphabets. Most interestingly, the symbol that Belsthar circled was one of the view symbols i actually found. It's Y in Charlemagne's alphabet.
none of the other symbols seem to match the rest of his alphabet.
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:24 pm
maradydd
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Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 53
Whee for being in PST and waking up late too.
I've been spending some time going through the alphabets on omniglot, and punted the images over to a guy I know who has a book detailing almost all known writing systems (including odd ones like Theban); we'll see if he comes up with anything. I haven't yet.
There are clearly some repeats in the symbols. I'm going to try getting them lined up to do some basic cryptanalysis, and we'll see what happens. (And thanks a hell of a lot, whoever mentioned Hebrew ... you just reminded me that we have no idea whether this script goes backward or forward. Yargh.)
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:41 pm
AngBa
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I'm the same way - been pouring over different glyphs now for a couple of hours, and for every one symbol that matches up there are more that don't.... I'm starting to go cross-eyed!
I also think the Dr. is getting a bit snarky - If I show that I am available to chat he won't respond, but waits until I go idle -
ETA:
Quote:
[14:11] docjpjr: Yes I am here
[14:19] theangrybanana: Is everything ok?
[14:26] docjpjr: I thought maybe you mad at me. You never answer me.
[14:26] docjpjr: I am ill. Not very happy. I have nightmares all night.'
[14:26] docjpjr: Are you there banana?
[14:27] theangrybanana: I am sorry - I was ill myself, slept many hours
[14:27] docjpjr: Yes I try
[14:27] theangrybanana: What were your nightmares about?
[14:27] theangrybanana: you try?
[14:27] docjpjr: I do not want to say
[14:28] docjpjr: Have you seen the object from mycroft?
[14:28] theangrybanana: I have seen it - and been pouring over different foreign alphabets for the last 3 hours
[14:28] docjpjr: Do you know what it says?
[14:28] theangrybanana: I understand why you would want to get rid of such an item
[14:29] theangrybanana: No, not yet - but we are ALL working on it
[14:29] docjpjr: I thought the dark thoughts would go away but they are more
[14:29] theangrybanana: tell me about the thoughts - i find it strange that you became ill as soon as you got rid of the item
[14:29] docjpjr: I can not say
[14:30] docjpjr: Maybe some other time
[14:30] theangrybanana: ok
[14:30] docjpjr: I am going to talk to a spiritualist today. In one hour.
[14:31] theangrybanana: I think that might be good
[14:31] theangrybanana: maybe they can make sense of your nightmares
[14:31] docjpjr: I am very frightened but maybe the thoughts are worse. I can not dream that again.
[14:32] theangrybanana: and the thoughts became worse after giving the item to mycroft?
[14:32] docjpjr: Yes. So much that I had thoughts of retrieving it before mycroft arrived.
[14:33] theangrybanana: is that why it was left just outside your doorstep?
[14:33] docjpjr: It is not my doorstep but maybe it is not so far away
[14:34] theangrybanana: yes, outside the enterance....
[14:34] docjpjr: I did not want to get caught with such an item. I was afraid to take it someplace I do not know
[14:34] docjpjr: I also do not want to carry it
[14:34] theangrybanana: I understand completely, and do not blame you at all
[14:35] docjpjr: It is not good being alone and feeling so bad
[14:36] theangrybanana: you are not alone - I am here (as much as I can be)... and you know that there are several people trying to help you
[14:36] theangrybanana: I wish that there was something I could do, and I am working on making sense of the item
[14:36] docjpjr: Thank you but my dreams tell me I am alone
[14:37] docjpjr: I think you will not be able to help me
[14:37] theangrybanana: yes, we will -
[14:37] theangrybanana: you can't give up hope
[14:37] docjpjr: Yes that is why I am going to the spiritualist today
[14:38] theangrybanana: good, you must tell me what they say - it might be able to help us
[14:38] docjpjr: Yes possibly
[14:39] theangrybanana: I believe we have an expert that might be able to help as well.
[14:39] docjpjr: Yes?
[14:40] theangrybanana: yes, mycroft's friend maradydd knows someone who might be able to decipher - he is an expert in the field....
[14:41] theangrybanana: it almost looks like a combination of different languages
[14:42] docjpjr: I do not know
[14:42] theangrybanana: me either, but I am looking
[14:43] docjpjr: I am very confused
[14:43] theangrybanana: why is that ?
[14:43] docjpjr: I just feel onfused
[14:43] docjpjr: confused
[14:43] theangrybanana: it will all be sorted out soon
[14:44] docjpjr: Yes I have to get ready now ok?
[14:45] docjpjr: Please when you feel better ask the good witches to help me ok?
[14:45] theangrybanana: Ok, I feel much better today - I will do that while you are at the spiratulist
[14:45] docjpjr: Goodbye Banana
[14:45] docjpjr: Thank you
[14:46] theangrybanana: Goodbye - let me know how it goes when you get back!
[14:46] docjpjr: Yes
[14:46] *** "docjpjr" signed off at Sun Oct 01 14:46:22 2006.
I could be wrong here, but I think the good Dr. is gone (at least for the time being....)
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 3:22 pm
AngBa
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Asking about the skull
Quote:
[17:24] docjpjr: Banana please tell your friends not to talk of the object to me. I have no more information about it for them and I do not even want to know what it says. I do not want it to have power over me anymore ok? please?
[17:25] theangrybanana: ok, I will tell everyone not to ask you about it anymore
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 6:26 pm
Obes
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I can help, but only with one of the symbols, since it's my speciality...
Hopefully he meant for it to be interpreted this way anyway...
Second row, fourth in (looks like a <)
This is Runic, Kano/Kenaz (depending on where you look), is the letter 'K' and means Beacon or Light.
I know I said I'd have no part of this... but.. y'know... I lurked instead and didn't look at the scary videos .
Obes.
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 6:33 pm
Wabonan
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Joined: 24 Sep 2006 Posts: 1185
I was just wondering what we do if this is a long dead language...How will we translate it?....or could it translate into a language we would know???
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 7:21 pm
oraclle
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Wabonan wrote:
I was just wondering what we do if this is a long dead language...How will we translate it?....or could it translate into a language we would know???
Well whatever it is it had to be encoded in the first place and ipso facto is decodable.
It may be nye on impossible but we'll get there eventually if only because the PM drops a load of clues(Whore.gif anyone?? - I've only read about it but it must've been a nightmare http://www.unfiction.com/compendium/2002/11/15/wheregif/ ).
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 7:49 pm
tipsila
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Just a shot in the dark here, but I have a feeling that this may be a space between words.
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 8:23 pm
randomtrickpony
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Anyone care to join me over at the irc channel while I look through various books? Any help would be appreciated!
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 8:41 pm
Wabonan
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Humm I just looked through all the languages on Omniglot.... I think I'm blind now... The writing looks close to cyrillic.... but then some letters don't match....I can't find anything that matches completely ...also I googled magic languages...masonic symbols ....nothing..... I think Im going to drink a beer and wait for the next clue....By the way what is the skull made of???...is it solid or hollow???...looks like a resin cast. Its definitely not a real skull....if its hollow its a vaccuform and is probably some kind of plastic......lol
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 9:01 pm
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