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AngBa
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Joined: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 532 Location: the pit of misery, KS
Wabonan - I could kiss you for going through all of them - I tried and started going crosseyed.... Grab a beer and join us in the chat if you want!
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I'm only angry because I hate bananas...
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 9:03 pm
tipsila
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Joined: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 545 Location: In the back of your mind
I pieced together the text from the skull (sorry, not too professional) in the hope that it may make it easier to decipher.
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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:29 am
mycroftxxx
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Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 103 Location: Houston, Texas
tipsila wrote:
I pieced together the text from the skull (sorry, not too professional) in the hope that it may make it easier to decipher.
You kick ass.
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:47 am
dvw
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Joined: 05 Apr 2006 Posts: 67 Location: UP A CREEK
mycroftxxx wrote:
tipsila wrote:
I pieced together the text from the skull (sorry, not too professional) in the hope that it may make it easier to decipher.
You kick ass.
If Tipsila can't figure this out, no one can.
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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:45 am
tipsila
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Joined: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 545 Location: In the back of your mind
Thanks guys, but you give me way too much credit!
Mycroft, would you please check the skull to make sure I didn't miss any of the symbols? I found one I had missed after I finished, and had to redo the damn thing! I was up till 4:45 and I am wondering if I found them all.
Hey, DVW, good to see you again!
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:28 am
maradydd
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Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 53
tipsila wrote:
I found one I had missed after I finished, and had to redo the damn thing!
Wait, so is the image you posted earlier now updated?
I took a cursory look at it last night before bed, and I think I see 17 distinct symbols -- will do a frequency analysis later today and run it through a Caesar cracker to start with, but I have a bunch of errands to run so it'll probably be this evening.
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:37 pm
tipsila
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Joined: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 545 Location: In the back of your mind
maradydd wrote:
Wait, so is the image you posted earlier now updated?
I took a cursory look at it last night before bed, and I think I see 17 distinct symbols -- will do a frequency analysis later today and run it through a Caesar cracker to start with, but I have a bunch of errands to run so it'll probably be this evening.
No, I put up the corrected version. There are 17 symbols.
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:42 pm
DetroitLegend
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Joined: 16 Aug 2006 Posts: 52 Location: Detroit, MI
I haven't really had time to go over any of this in detail, but some of the symbols have a strange resembilance to the Theban Alphabet Mainly the U/V looking symbols. None are exact matches and most others are not in there, but i figured I'd through it out there being that the Theban Alphabet is used in most Wiccan circles to code "magikal" texts/spells... I don't know how much help that will be though...
Quick complete n00b question (i know it was posted), but I had a complete HTML mind dump and forgot how to name URL's instead of posting the actual links... Could someone PM that to me and slap me with a quick trout?? Much appreciated!
Thanks Axys Denyed!
Cheers
Edited for spelling (I hope)
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:18 pm
maradydd
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Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 53
DetroitLegend wrote:
I haven't really had time to go over any of this in detail, but some of the symbols have a strange resembilance to the Theban Alphabet
Yeah, I think someone pointed it out before; not a perfect match, though.
I also did a complete run through Omniglot, including the syllabaries, and came up empty. My friend with the book about writing systems has searched through it cover to cover, and can't find anything either.
I'm also going to try and interest a couple of actual cryptographers I know, fwiw.
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:58 pm
daihiey
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Joined: 18 Sep 2006 Posts: 17
Hmmm....what if the writing has letters from all diffrent languages? If people say they found matches on some of the letters to languages but not all, then why don't people post what letters matched the writing language they were looking at?just a though
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:56 pm
Wabonan
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Joined: 24 Sep 2006 Posts: 1185
I thought about that but how can you type the weird symbol that the letter matches?... Im not a photoshop guy either so I can't cut out the letter and post it as a pic,,,, But I don't think its a real language at all I think its a home made one... I also think Tipslia is correct about that symbol being a "space".
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 6:33 pm
ardiente
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Joined: 16 Sep 2006 Posts: 104 Location: London
Phonetics? Have some demanding commitments at the mo', so don't have time to test this myself, but thought I'd throw up the idea anyway. Since the skull has to be held and turned over in order to read the full text, what if the glyphs only have meaning if they are said?
I've already checked the IPA (international phonetic alphabet) and there are a couple of glyphs that look similar (the X with curled and straight serifs, the little round symbol below what looks like a cyrillic character, a few of the greek characters)
But possibly this is why there seem to be characters from different alphabets - they might have been chosen for their sound, rather than how they translate into the roman alphabet. This would also be consistent with it being a incantation of some kind.
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:14 pm
tipsila
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Joined: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 545 Location: In the back of your mind
The doc contacted me tonight and asked if I was helping on the "object". He said he thinks it is old, and that solving it will be the best way to help him. He told me he thinks the text is a spell -- just a knowing that he has.
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[23:45] docjpjr: Please do not tell me what it says when you find it. I do not want the spell in my ears
[23:46] tipsila: Do you think it is a spell? Why do you think that?
[23:46] docjpjr: I just believe it is
[23:46] docjpjr: I do not know why
[23:47] docjpjr: It is very strong. I know it has power
[23:47] tipsila: hmmm...I don't even know where it starts or ends and to start around or at the top or left to right or right to left
[23:47] tipsila: I mean there are thousands of spells
[23:48] docjpjr: Where do the realizations come into your brain?
[23:48] docjpjr: When you do like I have described?
[23:48] tipsila: hmm, maybe that is where I should start then
[23:49] docjpjr: I do not know. It is just a thought. Where would you start if you were writing on it?
[23:50] docjpjr: Maybe it does not matter. If you can turn it into letters it will make sense
[23:50] tipsila: probably near the right temple moving right (counterclockwise)
[23:50] docjpjr: But I am not much help or I would have done it myself
Oh, and he mentioned that "Internet people" were bothering him, saying they are AV to scare him. I asked for a name and he said, "ifurfantidimontaggio".
Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 1:43 am
subtlephilosophy
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Joined: 27 Sep 2006 Posts: 16 Location: Southern California
i furfanti di montaggio
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Oh, and he mentioned that "Internet people" were bothering him, saying they are AV to scare him. I asked for a name and he said, "ifurfantidimontaggio".
i furfanti di montaggio roughly translates to "assembly of scoundrels" in italian. probably just a joke, but perhaps a clue, maybe to the origins of av? after all, i think the doctor knows more about his pursuers than he lets on.
edit: it might more closely translate to " scoundrels of assembly", furfanti being scoundrels, and montaggio being assembly.
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 2:09 am
tipsila
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Joined: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 545 Location: In the back of your mind
Re: i furfanti di montaggio
subtlephilosophy wrote:
i furfanti di montaggio roughly translates to "assembly of scoundrels" in italian. probably just a joke, but perhaps a clue, maybe to the origins of av? after all, i think the doctor knows more about his pursuers than he lets on.
He said the name sounds like Italian soda pop! Thanks for that bit of information.
Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 2:16 am
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