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[SPEC] Order of Denderah/enochian
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djsampson
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[SPEC] Order of Denderah/enochian
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Since this has come up in Daniel's last video I thought it might need its own thread to discuss any information found on the subject. So far all I have found is a bunch of information on a place in northern Egypt. It looks to be a temple with a lot of strange hyroglyphs, and a large etched out design on the ceiling. Any info you find feel free to post it here.

As far as the language goes I am not sure how useful it will be. I dought that Bree will walk around chanting some strange dead laguage but any info found feel free to post it here.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 11:57 pm
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Milosh
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respose to new cassieiswatching vid

Hiya

Just watched the new cassieiswatching vid posted on youtube. As I don't live in the states I'm not really interested in figuring out locations to find clues, but I am interested in focusing on some of the other references.

In the last shot of the vid we see the bible, which is a page from Amos 5. The blacked-out text is probably,

'Therefore I will cause you to go into captivity'

Also - this passage references the gods Moloch and Chi'un, which are both references to an Egyptian god called Remphan. Possibly the central deity worshipped by the 'order of denderah' ?

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What I found on Wiki about enochian from playing the Ocular Effect:



Enochian is an occult or angelic language popularised by John Dee and Edward Kelley in the 16th century. Dee and Kelley claimed that it was revealed to them by angels, though most contemporary practitioners of magick consider it a constructed language. The name "Enochian" is a reference to the Book of Enoch, a pseudepigraphal text and a major source of Judeo-Christian angelology.

Dee began to allude to his search for knowledge through the angels in 1581 when he mentioned in his personal diary that God had sent "good angels" to communicate directly with his prophets. As evidenced by his book collection, he had more than a casual interest in angels; he specifically sought out all past conversations between man and angels with a passion. He had a number of texts by Ficino, Heinrich Cornelius Agrippa, and Johannes Trithemius as well as the more common biblical Apocrypha and Pseudepigrapha. He studied the similarities of the angelic conversations in these works, immersing himself in angelology and the specific study of communication with angels. All of these mathematicians, cryptographers and philosophers that had revelations with angels had authoritative knowledge that divine messengers, guides on revelatory journeys and angels of the apocalypse were the most common and trustworthy sources of information for the patriarchs of old.

Angelology was a pervasive element within Dee's library collection. He was acquainted with one of the greatest mathematicians of his time, Girolamo Cardano, a man that credited a guardian angel with inspirational "visions of power." Agrippa encouraged his readers to seek "a voice from Heaven, a voice that teacheth from above." Agrippa's teacher, Johannes Trithemius, wrote De septem secundeis, which discussed a method of long distance communication based on the seven planets and their guardian angels "according to the tradition of the wise men of old." Dee had at least 16 works by Robert Grosseteste, with whom he shared a great synergy with their common interests in angels as well as optics, mathematics and astronomy.


Enochian, and the magickal system that Dee and Kelley based on it, were incorporated by Aleister Crowley as part of his popular and influential system. It is also popular in Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, from which Crowley learned it, and in the Aurum Solis. In 1969, Anton LaVey published The Satanic Bible that consisted of dark reinterpretations of the 19 Enochian Keys, presented in both English and Enochian transliterated to Latin characters.

Perhaps the most important student of Enochian at the turn of the 21st Century was the late Benjamin Rowe, also known as "Josh Norton", a self-taught ceremonial magician who wrote many papers on the use of Dee and Kelley's magical system.

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djsampson
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so Bree posted a new video on youtube ......... guess what its about ?????????


The samething I was looking up pretty cool huh ......lol
So basicly nothing new if you were looking it up as well ......... but here is the LINK


there is some pretty intresting stuff on this but here is a good picture of what the zodiac of denderah looks like





If the Pm's know how to make this smaller please do so. sorry I didnt want to shrink it it looses detail if I shrink it
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ButterflySeeker
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The thing I'd like to know is this new bit of information's connection with Thelema. Everyone's been pointing to this and with the shrine in LG15's room, it almost seems certain that's her religion. Now where does Denderah come in because I get the same thing when looking it up, only about Egypt (Which is funny since that's my parents' home country =P )

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Azrael
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Enochian

The Thelema is a religion created by Aliester Crowley. More of a way of life than a religion. Crowley as sung about in ozzies song is considered the evilist man to have ever lived. Some of us know better. hes actually a genius.
For more info see oto.

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Azrael
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OTO

Sorry oto is the Ordo Templi Orientis. Hope i can help ive been an occultist for some years now. Wink

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