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[hobyrne]

[niteowl]

Re: Wave 4 Cards - Strange numbers and images on cards

[ampetrizzo]

[SPEC] Why split #058 and #060?

[DarkHuman]

ok, after my post in #223, and the realization that it all has to do with CT, i need someone in Britan to get the text hint for that card please. it's a straightfoward black, hopefully the hint will give us a bit more than just help for #1-5. (then again, it's a MC clue, so it might not.)

[kayakbabe]

dice on 60 adn 58 match layout of dice on 101

[ixalon]

[ampetrizzo]

[Question] Are we looking at the wrong board?

[Jaeneas]

SPEC Pt1. Number Strings.

I was thinking about packs of cards and how they relate to the card numbering we have been given by CT.

CT has given us a full deck and both jokers. I'm not sure about other countries but here in the UK when you buy a new pack there is usually a card which describes how to score the card game Bridge. As this card has not been given could the number stings stand in for this card?

I should say now that I know next to nothing about how to play Bridge and apologise to those who do if I am completley off kilter with this. (I think it is a bit like team Whist). But I do know it is a game for four and the players act as two teams bidding against each other. (This all comes from an earlier post where it was noted that each number string has paired numbers at the beginning and the end, sorry forgot who posted that).

Could the number strings represent Bridge hands? How this would help us other than ordering the PXC cards in a certain way I don't know.

Of course this conviently disregards all of the Risk stuff, but I was always rubbish at Risk but probaly better than I would be at Bridge.

[Jaeneas]

Spec Pt2. CT and Beale Codes

I'm going to walk through this, mainly for my own thought process, sorry for the recap.

We know that CT has altered the PXC cards to give clues to where the Cube is, I hope this is true otherwise we are really screwed.

The PXC cards with playing cards came out to form I STOLE THE CUBE HELP ME COMBED THUNDERCLAP then there are the two Jokers.

Combed Thunderclap leads to the short story THE LIBRARY OF BABEL by Jorge Louis Broges, and also leads to CT web sites describing what happened when they and the Cube got to Earth.

The first Joker card is #223 Secret Locations. Features five novels about Secret Locations and 'imaginary worlds'. There is also a Beale code in yellow numbers. See the here for the card: http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16202, and here for more on the Beale ciphers: http://www.angelfire.com/pro/bealeciphers/.

As we all know you need the correct document in order to solve the cipher, which we don't have.

The final Joker card is #239 Persian (here http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16146) but other than having Joker on it I can't find info on what extra info CT has put on the card to help us. At first I thought that we would have to solve the Beale cipher then translate it from QWERTY to Dvorak, or Dvorak to QWERTY, like the puzzle on #239. Nothing. Then I thought that the original text used in the cipher should be in Dvorak and the Beale would be good! Nothing. Then I thought that I coming at it in the wrong way. CT has not changed any of the puzzles on the other cards but has just over, or under, printed.

Looking closer at scans of #239 there seems to be rain drops but nobody seems to have mentioned them.

I think that #223 and #239 should be used together. #239 leads to a text which Beales through #223. (Spec spec…. and tells us how to operate the number strings? Probably not.)

I don't have #239 so over to you.

Notes:

I have been using this app to solve the Beale stuff.

http://www.angelfire.com/pro/bealeciphers/Page5.htm

I've used this to translate QWERTY to Dvorak and back.

http://wbic16.xedoloh.com/dvorak.html

Texts I have tried:

Text from Card #200
1787 US Constitution
Adams-Onis (?)
Alice in Wonderland
Alice Through the Looking Glass
All PXC card names in order with playing card symbols
Text from Cold Fission
Crab Canon
Transcript of CT websites
Da Vinci code txt
Declaration of Independence (splitters)
Dord (text from Wikipedia)
Genesis 11 (New Bible)
Gold-Bug
Gyvann quote about precious stones.
Hart DOI
The translated second Beale cipher
Journey to the Centre of the Earth
Library of Babel
Library of Babel (Spanish)
Library of Babel (Wikipedia text)
Library of Babel (starting from Combed Thunderclap)
Magna Carta
Official DOI
Pride and Prejudice
Description of 'Persian Sunset', a flower.
War of the Worlds (Novel)
War of the Worlds (Radio)

I didn't steal the Cube, Help me.

[ampetrizzo]

I do not have either of the Joker cards, but it seems that no one on the forums can figure out why #239 is called Persian.

If the two cards are connected (and possibly lead to the missing cipher document) then my spec is this: A Persian "secret location" could be referring to the legend of the subterranean city Shambala. There's that sphinx in Brazil that's rumored to be the entrance.

I don't know, it seems as likely as anything else at this point.

There's also a Persian connection to the biblical Tower of Babel, but I haven't been able to find out if it is an independent Persian myth or not.

[ixalon]

Hmm.. a secret persian location makes me think of the theives cave from Ali Baba and the Fourty Theives (the "Open, Sesame" one.)

[ampetrizzo]

You know, Jaeneas, those "raindrops" struck me as an aerial view of some islands, but I was just looking at a scan so maybe I'm wrong.

[Jaeneas]

Hello Mods, not sure if this is the right place, if you need to move to Silver Cards not a problem.

I've been looking at a scan of #239 Persian, CT's second Joker card.
I was trying to make sence of the spots over the top. Looking again at the skyline it reminded me of something but I couldn't remember what. Then I looked through the Wiki for some of the original PXC images. The second page after Sente's introductiory letter was six images one of which is a skyline, what do you think?



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The original thread from the pre-game is here...

Thread Link

Still need more info about the spots on the card.

TTFN

[locqust]

I would say that is the same skyline, not sure if it is taken from the same balcony or even the same building without having the real card to check with though.

[locqust]

Hmmm just been thinking again about these number sequences, if they were directions to map out a location I would of thought it would be a bit more obvious as to what.
I was watching national treasure earlier and the bit where they look for the map on the declaration of independence and find that code that links in with the silence dogood letters (sorry the name of it escapes me!) looked similar to the number strings on the cards, only problem would be we need a document/website/book(s) to use this code on.

Other idea was ISBN numbers, Im going to check that one out now.

EDIT: ISBN is a dead end