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brandoblues
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 		from merediths email from sarah..


...Only Sarah has access to both sites. ...

why did she refer to herself in the third person?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:00 pm
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Wabonan
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 		fraudian slip... she ment banana...But I was on both sights at the time of defacemant ....she was the only one on the Whoisav sight ..the AV sight didnot have a tracker on it

PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:10 pm
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AngBa
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brandoblues wrote:
from merediths email from sarah..


...Only Sarah has access to both sites. ...

why did she refer to herself in the third person?


Because she is stupid and now has an AngryBanana on her trail.... Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:18 pm
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Arkaham
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 		Update on altusveritas.

We have an image called: nuntiusutordo/879346672.png

Some code, an efigy of who Lilith and an aereal picture of some airport.

The code is:

qdefrgyixfgtsdynmkledosbnbfduhwoaxzsolkupl
isvhtnqajbghddolkwsyeaaxszdrwrplmnswatqaws
edriiyhcgfdfmnbvcxwawaspilnconeutdfttgyhss
aslicsaqaanhbdnoineactdspdlidhtaxtcftqeame
iuroascabasimammerntmnbthryysaxwtyisslkenc
weqwondazcmndthsioaleywlanancsdisdaweevdse
wiucvctiqaooldzgxmnnoruhapodwshtsdjemlsaam
nitrkmmdogadsaddlhdashgpothucaaamasdnuifom
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:54 pm
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maradydd
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Arkaham wrote:

The code is:

qdefrgyixfgtsdynmkledosbnbfduhwoaxzsolkupl
isvhtnqajbghddolkwsyeaaxszdrwrplmnswatqaws
edriiyhcgfdfmnbvcxwawaspilnconeutdfttgyhss
aslicsaqaanhbdnoineactdspdlidhtaxtcftqeame
iuroascabasimammerntmnbthryysaxwtyisslkenc
weqwondazcmndthsioaleywlanancsdisdaweevdse
wiucvctiqaooldzgxmnnoruhapodwshtsdjemlsaam
nitrkmmdogadsaddlhdashgpothucaaamasdnuifom


Fascinating. I get the exact same image name, but the code I get is

ghyrswyixfgtsdynmkledosbnbfduhwoaxzsolku
plisvhtnqajbghddolkwsyeaaxszdrwrplmnswat
qawsedriiyhcgfdfjnbvcxaaaspilnaconeutdft
tgyhssaslicsaqaanhbdnoineactdspdlidhtaxt
cftqeameiuroascabasimammerntmnbthryysaxw
tyisslkencweqwondazcmndthsioaleywlanancs
disdaweevdsewiucvctiqaooldzgxmnnoruhapod
wshtsdjemlsaamnitrkmmdogadsaddlhdashgpot
hucaaamacfreswdm

Based on the type of letter frequencies we're seeing here, e.g. three "a"s in a row, I expect we're looking at a Vigenere cipher here.

I'm curious what's up with the radically different ciphertexts, though. Two possibilities:

(1) The PMs screwed up something in the first message and reposted it later.
(2) There are multiple texts being transmitted, perhaps with some kind of time delay.

In the event it's (2), I'll set up a cron job to pull down the image once an hour and see whether it changes during the night.

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Mofy
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 		The airport in the picture is

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Calhoun county
28°39'1.33"N 96°40'45.14"W


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randomtrickpony
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Joined: 25 Sep 2006
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Location: Iceworld of Hoth

 		Well, Mara and I did a little latin digging...soooo...Latin lesson time again boys and girls!

using our handly cereal box decoder:

nuntiusutordo becomes nuntius ut ordo orrrrr....

Nuntius-messages, messengers

ut- so that, when, as, to, that

Ordo-rank, class, order, row, line, series

I remember Mara said something really good right about now, but I for the life of me can't remember what it was. What'd I miss?

PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 5:36 am
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ardiente
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 		Hmmm... I see no code...

PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:18 am
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James Stone
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 		Neither did I. If you either save the picture or screenprint and open it in photoshop, then increase the brightness the code will become visible.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:37 am
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ardiente
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 		Doh! Now I see it... same thing as maradydd

PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:19 am
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tipsila
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 		These are the first and second versions of the image on the altusveritas site.
second 879346672.png
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879346672.png

PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:19 am
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Duelist
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 		Hmm weird, both those images have different codes.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:49 pm
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tipsila
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 		Differences in the text of the two images
The first 6 letters in each text, the last 8 letters in each, and in the 3rd row, the first group of text has 9 letters different, but the second one has 8 letters (in a group) and then an odd one different further down the row. Compare aspilncone (set 1) to aspilnacone (set 2).

The first set has 8 rows of 42 letters each, while the second has 9 rows; the first 8 with 40 letters each the last row with 16.

Code:

#1 [qdefrg, mnbvcxwaw, sdnuifom]
qdefrgyixfgtsdynmkledosbnbfduhwoaxzsolkupl
isvhtnqajbghddolkwsyeaaxszdrwrplmnswatqaws
edriiyhcgfdfmnbvcxwawaspilnconeutdfttgyhss
aslicsaqaanhbdnoineactdspdlidhtaxtcftqeame
iuroascabasimammerntmnbthryysaxwtyisslkenc
weqwondazcmndthsioaleywlanancsdisdaweevdse
wiucvctiqaooldzgxmnnoruhapodwshtsdjemlsaam
nitrkmmdogadsaddlhdashgpothucaaamasdnuifom


#2 [ghyrsw, jnbvcxaa, a, cfreswdm]
ghyrswyixfgtsdynmkledosbnbfduhwoaxzsolku
plisvhtnqajbghddolkwsyeaaxszdrwrplmnswat
qawsedriiyhcgfdfjnbvcxaaaspilnaconeutdft
tgyhssaslicsaqaanhbdnoineactdspdlidhtaxt
cftqeameiuroascabasimammerntmnbthryysaxw
tyisslkencweqwondazcmndthsioaleywlanancs
disdaweevdsewiucvctiqaooldzgxmnnoruhapod
wshtsdjemlsaamnitrkmmdogadsaddlhdashgpot
hucaaamacfreswdm


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subtlephilosophy
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 		could this possibly be a gronsfeld cipher with the filename (879346672) being the key?

i'll check it out.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 2:33 am
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maradydd
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subtlephilosophy wrote:
could this possibly be a gronsfeld cipher with the filename (879346672) being the key?


If I understand it correctly, Gronsfeld with key 879346672 is equivalent to Vigenere with key hgicdffgb. I come up empty on both texts, and on the shorter text-differences, alas.

I ran this past a cryppie friend who doesn't have the time to commit to doing the break, but he pointed out that there are polyalphabetic ciphers other than Vigenere; he suggested the Playfair cipher and the Doppelkast, which is German.

Just for a lark I worked out all the letter pair frequencies in the second of the two original texts; here's what I came up with.

(EDIT: crap, error in my code, will fix this right quick)

Edit again: d'oh, right, it *can't* be a Playfair cipher, as a Playfair will never have dual-letter digraphs. Four-square and two-square ciphers can, though.

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