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Semioclast
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Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Posts: 68
[OFF TOPIC] Literature, Philosophy, etc. I was wondering if there were any other literature, philosophy, or media study scholars out there (either professionally or amateur) who would lie to discuss the theoretical, cultural, or literary impact of this "game" (I prefer "narrative").
The narrative seems to draw heavily on literature (specifically the gothic) and philosophical texts, just like the Wachowskis' films do.
Friends and I have been discussing these topics for weeks and I would love to hear some other opinions.
I would be willing to post some topics for discussion here or other places.
Just a thought.
Also, does anyone know of places where these kind of things are being discussed? I would really appreciate some links, resources, and the like.
_________________"I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth." --Umberto Eco
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 11:40 pm
MatrixofReality
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Joined: 26 Oct 2003 Posts: 153 Location: Memphis, TN
i'm not exactly a philosophy major but i'd be more than happy to be a guenia pig if you want someone that can give you some straight answers about an obsession and what drives it...
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 2:23 am
Sunny du Pree
Unfettered
Joined: 01 Jan 2003 Posts: 636 Location: Push, Nevada
Im GAME!!!
The implications of this type of gaming touch on many different levels in my life. Ready when you are.
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Sunny Du Pree
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 5:17 am
Semioclast
Boot
Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Posts: 68
Found Something! Hey, all.
I just stumbeld upon a terrific scholarly paper on MMORG and Unreality gaming called: "This is Not a Game."
It is truly fantastic and the best writing on the topic that I have seen yet. With more resources like this I may be able to develop a class around the phenomenon or at least integrate it into another, broader, course.
If you have any similar items, pass them along!
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_________________"I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth." --Umberto Eco
Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 9:45 pm
Azathoth666
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Joined: 09 Oct 2003 Posts: 321 Location: OZ-tralia
Haha! I've only just read the abstract, but I like this... We are not ARGers... We are "Extreme Networkers"!!!
Makes us sound all sexy and James Bond.
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We grow old because we stop playing.
Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 10:45 pm
Omnie
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Joined: 07 Oct 2003 Posts: 772
Re: Found Something!
Semioclast wrote:
Hey, all.
I just stumbeld upon a terrific scholarly paper on MMORG and Unreality gaming called: "This is Not a Game."
It is truly fantastic and the best writing on the topic that I have seen yet. With more resources like this I may be able to develop a class around the phenomenon or at least integrate it into another, broader, course.
If you have any similar items, pass them along!
Wow, that's awesome. Makes me wish I'd been around to play the Beast...it sounds like an amazing experience.
Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 11:14 pm
joebrent
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Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 640 Location: New York, sometimes
http://www.nytimes.com/indexes/2003/11/10/science/text/index.html
25 Important questions, beginning with "Does Science Matter?" But #25 is the one that caught my eye:"Does Paranormal Phenomena Exist?" It begins by mentioning spoon-bending in the first paragraph.
This ARG is really messing with my mind. Two months ago, I wouldn't have even looked at it twice.
Now I wonder if the NYTimes is in game, and looked through the page for the USH logo.
Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 12:41 am
Omnie
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Joined: 07 Oct 2003 Posts: 772
Whoa, the "Should we improve our genome?" article was sent to me by my writing seminar professor earlier today, and I hadn't read it yet. This board is making me do homework. How freaky and twisted and backwards is that ?!? Thanks, joebrent.
Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 12:49 am
Semioclast
Boot
Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Posts: 68
Omnie wrote:
Whoa, the "Should we improve our genome?" article was sent to me by my writing seminar professor earlier today, and I hadn't read it yet. This board is making me do homework. How freaky and twisted and backwards is that ?!? Thanks, joebrent.
As a writing seminar instructor, myself, I demand that you do your reading! (And don't dangle participles)
_________________"I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth." --Umberto Eco
Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 1:42 am
aheffel
Boot
Joined: 09 Nov 2003 Posts: 15 Location: OHIO
I'm hugely interested in the philosophy and literature aspects of this game, and the Matrix as a whole actually.
I'm a first year collidge student and I'm in an "Intro to Philosophy" class, but I'd love to learn more, read more, and discuss.
((Also, in the event I'm able to bring anything to the table as far as the continuing progress of this game, I'd guess that it's the above interests/experience))
_________________And you thought THE MATRIX had you...
Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 2:01 am
Semioclast
Boot
Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Posts: 68
aheffel wrote:
I'm hugely interested in the philosophy and literature aspects of this game, and the Matrix as a whole actually.
I'm a first year collidge student and I'm in an "Intro to Philosophy" class, but I'd love to learn more, read more, and discuss.
((Also, in the event I'm able to bring anything to the table as far as the continuing progress of this game, I'd guess that it's the above interests/experience))
Okay: you are a first year "college" student
Also, you only need one parenthesis at the beginning and end of a parenthetical statement.
I can't help it! Don't flame me, it is a compulsion! I have to teach this stuff every day and now, somewhere in Ohio, there is a Composition TA thanking me.
_________________"I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth." --Umberto Eco
Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 2:21 am
aheffel
Boot
Joined: 09 Nov 2003 Posts: 15 Location: OHIO
First, allow me to say, "Ouch."
Second of all, I should have specified that "collidge" is a running joke between a few friends of mine and myself.
Thirdly, no TAs are out there thanking you; no TAs really care about me yet, because I tested out of entry level English, and don't start the good stuff until next semester.
_________________And you thought THE MATRIX had you...
Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 2:36 am
Semioclast
Boot
Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Posts: 68
I apologize I know that was a bit harsh. It is late and I am grading papers. I apologize, don't take it personally.
Also, trust me, the TAs care. It is almost 2am and I'm still up grading.
No hard feelings?
_________________"I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth." --Umberto Eco
Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 2:41 am
Omnie
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Semioclast wrote:
I can't help it! Don't flame me, it is a compulsion! I have to teach this stuff every day and now, somewhere in Ohio, there is a Composition TA thanking me.
*runs in terror, screaming*
Did I just blatantly dangle a participle? I didn't think that I even knew how to do that, so now I'm curious. Does this mean I have to start writing complex sentences with large and impressive words on the forum? My writing seminar professor would be proud. Especially if we turned this into a thread about gene therapy and its ethical implications . Anyone wanna give it a try? Er, I meant, would anybody like to attempt to accomplish that profoundly arduous task?
Anyway, to get back on topic, and to get my mind off the notion that there is a writing seminar instructor reading my every post ( oh, the horror! )...
Semioclast, could you raise some topics that you'd want to discuss? I'll join in if I have anything to contribute...
Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 2:42 am
Semioclast
Boot
Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Posts: 68
Re: Found Something!
Semioclast wrote:
Hey, all.
I just stumbled upon a terrific scholarly paper on MMORG and Unreality gaming called: "This is Not a Game."
This paper came from this page. There are a few other interesting articles about the topic.
Enjoy!
_________________"I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth." --Umberto Eco
Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 2:45 am
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