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Dorkmaster
Unfictologist
Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 1328 Location: The People's Republic of Dork
Question for anyone out there...
I'm not taking any sides here right now...
Honest.
But I don't understand how Foo can say "info should be shared" but he's keeping his info under locks...
Perhaps there's a way that say, Foo would allow "read-only access" to the backdoor to Brackin?
So that way, he's not able to do anything but intercept information? He can't use it to get rid of Foo's connection or whatever?
I guess my point is that I don't believe Foo is against Brackin. I think he's mostly hurt about being fired when he was really just locked in a server room overnight, and that he's scared of what he's learned and doesn't know who to trust.
But I think we should still endeavor to hook these two up again.
Whaddya think?
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 4:01 am
CrypticVision
Boot
Joined: 28 May 2006 Posts: 66 Location: NYCUKOMTOR
Dorkmaster wrote:
Question for anyone out there...
I'm not taking any sides here right now...
Honest.
But I don't understand how Foo can say "info should be shared" but he's keeping his info under locks...
Perhaps there's a way that say, Foo would allow "read-only access" to the backdoor to Brackin?
So that way, he's not able to do anything but intercept information? He can't use it to get rid of Foo's connection or whatever?
I guess my point is that I don't believe Foo is against Brackin. I think he's mostly hurt about being fired when he was really just locked in a server room overnight, and that he's scared of what he's learned and doesn't know who to trust.
But I think we should still endeavor to hook these two up again.
Whaddya think?
QFT
This whole thing feels like high school drama to me, however I stuck with Foo hoping to get more information and to help change everything. Now it seems he won't give anything up.
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Those who abandon their dreams,
discourage those who don't.
Deus City
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 12:12 pm
Arkaham
Unfettered
Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 353
Well, the problem is this is information from the future. So we are constantly 'writting' on it. I mean, what President Fujimoto said is that the world will be perfect as long as Foo is the one who holds all this information. By giving access to Brackit the future could be rewritten and the information would lost its value.
Quote:
You of course, can choose not to share information with someone, but really, the games are played with information to be shared.
But the sentence "try not to betray that side and don't ask others to betray their side IG" is not right. People can play however they want.
You are right. I was so worried about clarifying things that I did not realize I was telling other people how to play. IG you can play in any way you want, and if you get information IG, then is yours to give to anyone (but it's a well known fact that betraying the Foo side is bad mojo, while betraying Brackin makes you look cool jk)
Oh, and I just wanted to say that at least I am not keeping any information to myself OOG. Everything I've gotten I've shown.
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 12:16 pm
Mindez
Decorated
Joined: 26 Feb 2006 Posts: 165
...
Everything that's being said here is confusing me.
Who are the gatekeepers? I want to join Foo, and I got an email telling me to ask the "gatekeepers" to let me in. But Jose (Arkaham) said he had no idea if he was a gatekeeper (Last night in IRC), so..
...
What is going on? o_O;
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 12:21 pm
Phaedra
Lurker v2.0
Joined: 21 Sep 2004 Posts: 4033 Location: Here, obviously
Mindez wrote:
...
Everything that's being said here is confusing me.
Who are the gatekeepers? I want to join Foo, and I got an email telling me to ask the "gatekeepers" to let me in. But Jose (Arkaham) said he had no idea if he was a gatekeeper (Last night in IRC), so..
...
What is going on? o_O;
Maybe it's a puzzle.
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 12:21 pm
KGBrAm
Veteran
Joined: 11 Nov 2006 Posts: 100 Location: Montreal, Canada
The Gatekeepers = Jose, Edward, David, Shaze and Montreal.
EDIT: One of the names there is -or will become- a traitor
ed - removed spoiler tag as this is valuable information. Spoiler tags should be used to cover the process of puzzle solutions so that those who would like to attempt to solve a puzzle on their own can do so, they shouldn't be used to cover information that should be shared to help move the game forward. - imbri
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 12:25 pm
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Arkaham
Unfettered
Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 353
Mindez wrote:
Who are the gatekeepers? I want to join Foo, and I got an email telling me to ask the "gatekeepers" to let me in. But Jose (Arkaham) said he had no idea if he was a gatekeeper (Last night in IRC), so..
In response to that:
Yesterday I didn't know. Then I got a mail from our comrade Montreal saying I am. So I'm not messing with you or anything, you just asked at the wrong moment
Mindez wrote:
What is going on? o_O;
Welcome to the wonderful world of ARG, where half of the time you don't know what's going on, and the other half you're trying to figure it out.
ed - removed spoiler tag as this is valuable information. Spoiler tags should be used to cover the process of puzzle solutions so that those who would like to attempt to solve a puzzle on their own can do so, they shouldn't be used to cover information that should be shared to help move the game forward. - imbri
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 12:35 pm
Mindez
Decorated
Joined: 26 Feb 2006 Posts: 165
Ah, fair enough.
Then I need to find an IC way to contact one of you.
Well, since I'm supposed to be a friend of David's...
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 12:43 pm
Mindez
Decorated
Joined: 26 Feb 2006 Posts: 165
Erm...
I just spot an inconsistency. o-o;
They received "half a terrabyte" of information from the future, but Fujimoto talks about the "600 MB of garbage". That's only half a gigabyte o_O;
Unless maybe MB mean something different in Deus City...
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 4:13 pm
KGBrAm
Veteran
Joined: 11 Nov 2006 Posts: 100 Location: Montreal, Canada
montreal ok guys and girls.
After reading the Moderator interventions in these DC threads and reading SpaceBass' essay on the topic, I will post some info (against my better judgment) on how to open up contact with the gatekeepers.
All the names are listed a few posts above this one, you may contact anyone of these names with the passphrase and we will take it from there.
The Passphrase:
In order to get the passphrase you need ot get Foo to give it to you...by earning his trust.
You'll know trust is earned when he replies with a few words saying something to the effect of 'I have decided to trust you blablabla''
The passphrase is included in these messages and so far, It's always been written in caps. Easy enough to see.
Finally if you cannot manage to find any of the gatekeepers, well just look at the location listed next to my name on the left there...
You see it?
Good!
Now click on Profile and see if there is any info there.
For the record,
It seems really odd to spill out info like this since trust/betrayal seem to be important themes so far in DC, but this is how this community works and I will abide by the rules. I'm in your house after all fellow Ufers.
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 7:05 pm
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djsampson
Unfettered
Joined: 12 Sep 2006 Posts: 393 Location: INDY
I wouldn't worry to much about posting, most of us on UF are well enough asstablished ARG'ers to respect the game and keep neebies from crossing the lines. Plus sooner or later someone will get or give the need info to the Attacken Brackens anyway. I think us finding out your info (the legit way) is the only way the game will progress on ourside.
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 7:13 pm
Wabonan
Entrenched
Joined: 24 Sep 2006 Posts: 1185
Mendez he sill hasn't let you in??? He wrote me an e-mail and I told him you were cool. but that was before the passphrase. Also Foo doesn't want the Foofighters to spy on Brackin... I had a good chance to do just that but he said we were above that. Oh yea one other thing how do we let someone in??.. do we just send Foo a confermation or do we do something else??
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 7:22 pm
Phaedra
Lurker v2.0
Joined: 21 Sep 2004 Posts: 4033 Location: Here, obviously
Re: montreal
KGBrAm wrote:
For the record,
It seems really odd to spill out info like this since trust/betrayal seem to be important themes so far in DC, but this is how this community works and I will abide by the rules. I'm in your house after all fellow Ufers.
Let me clarify:
The only hard and fast rules for using UF are found in the terms of service. No one's trying to throw a rulebook at you to force you to share information you don't want to share.
I think what most of us are just trying to say is:
1) We're also not going to stop anyone from sharing anything they want to share.
2) UF is out-of-game, so PM-made rules about what info you're allowed to share don't apply here.
3) We're not enamored of any game design that requires players to mistrust one another/keep secrets from each other.
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 7:40 pm
Wabonan
Entrenched
Joined: 24 Sep 2006 Posts: 1185
Ok I got an email from Foo a couple of days ago (I was going back over stuff) and after rereading a e-mail I rememberd what I ment to ask everone... lol
Quote:
It is not yet safe for me to come from my hiding place though. You are one of the secret-keepers - I have enlisted some others to protect you five. Especially MONTREAL.
What does he mean hes enlisted others to protect me????... Did he say that to any of the other 5 and who is protecting me...lol I guess I gotta go interogate my dogs...lol
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 8:09 pm
troon
Boot
Joined: 15 Nov 2006 Posts: 26
troon wrote:
I'm very suspicious also of Fujimoto motives. And I want to know why Foo trusts Fujimoto so easily. Foo said:
Quote:
Fujimoto knows the power of calling things by certain names. I realized he said something I had never told anyone before.
This is only one of a few things that make me think that Fujimoto is Foo, maybe Foo will reveal the truth.
So i sent Foo this:
Quote:
What that fujimoto said had you never told anyone before? And how would he know? I know we must seek the truth, but are you certain we can trust Fujimoto?
I posted this in the main DC forum, and I just recieved this from Foo:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
HAHAHAHA! I am absolutely certain that Fujimoto can be trusted IMPLICITLY! I trust him as I trust myself.
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 12:18 am
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