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[dc][update]Attackin Brackin/Myspace
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 		[dc][update]Attackin Brackin/Myspace
updated Myspace
I updated the Myspace page for the Attackin Brackins. The profile and blog are set to private, So anyone joining the Attackin Brackins need to send a friend request. *



* Some form of allegiance may be required (email from albrackin saying he trusts you is good enough for me)

http://www.myspace.com/130585438
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 		Not that I don't appreciate the thought, but is this really necessary? I've communicated with Bracken and would like to keep up with the group's progress (the community is half the fun of an ARG after all), but having to create a myspace account, and keep track of both forums (not to mention actually use myspace) is a really tedious notion. And it would probably be prohibitive to newcomers as well.

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 		All information will make it to UF eventually and most will be discussed on UF. All I have created was an in game site. To host privileged info for as long as need be. Its also another place for us to solve puzzles that we don't want the foo- fighters to see. It will also be used to keep track of undercover agents. The kind of stuff we cant do on a OOG forum.

Signing up on MS isn't very difficult it takes about 5 min. And you do not have to update it, just leave it a generic MS page. But if you don't want to join you don't have to. Like I said most information will still be posted on UF. Who knows mabe the PM's of DC might wise up and create there own IG forum. Thats the real problem for lurkers and newcomers with out seperate forums, it makes it really hard to follow. I am just trying to make up for the lack there of (please don't shoot the messanger).
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djsampson wrote:
Who knows mabe the PM's of DC might wise up and create there own IG forum.


I know!

There will be. With password protected Foo and Brackin areas.
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fonograph wrote:
Not that I don't appreciate the thought, but is this really necessary? I've communicated with Bracken and would like to keep up with the group's progress (the community is half the fun of an ARG after all), but having to create a myspace account, and keep track of both forums (not to mention actually use myspace) is a really tedious notion. And it would probably be prohibitive to newcomers as well.


No offense, but if you think keeping track of forums and setting up accounts to check pages is tedious, you may not be suited for ARGs. On this one only we already had a registration process, we have two blogs, one site and soon it may be more than two forums and one myspace.
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fonograph wrote:
Not that I don't appreciate the thought, but is this really necessary? I've communicated with Bracken and would like to keep up with the group's progress (the community is half the fun of an ARG after all), but having to create a myspace account, and keep track of both forums (not to mention actually use myspace) is a really tedious notion. And it would probably be prohibitive to newcomers as well.


That can indeed be tedious (and as someone who hates MySpace, I would strenuously object to any game or player resource that forced me to register on MySpace to have access to information), which is why it's generally good to have a wiki or modblog or some other centralized resource that records a summary of everything happening on the different sites, both in-game and player-created.

You can read this one resource regularly and if you want all the detail about one particular update or site, you can then choose to actually go there and read that site, but in general, if you read the wiki or modblog, you're kept up to date and can use that for information and Unforums for actually discussing the game, solving puzzles, etc.

In games where there are a lot of different resources and a lot of sites and really active discussion, those sort of summary resources can be invaluable. But of course, you have to have people willing to maintain them.

Arkaham wrote:
No offense, but if you think keeping track of forums and setting up accounts to check pages is tedious, you may not be suited for ARGs. On this one only we already had a registration process, we have two blogs, one site and soon it may be more than two forums and one myspace.


I beg your pardon?

"Not suited for ARGs"?

<blink>

I think setting up accounts to check MySpace pages is tedious, and often don't have time to keep track of tons of different sites.

Thanks for letting me know I'm not suited to ARGs. Jetpack
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 		lol the my space sight is ingame since its not on the unforums.. don't let the foos find out about it...lol

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 		I have to say I really don't like this split idea, to me it seems to be runing the whole reason I love ARG's. I love them for the community, for all of us lot to be stuck and working together on one problem, its fantastic, spending time on IRC with you guys, talking about what we know and finding out more and yea, it's just great.


I seriously don't think this split is necessary! Also the PM's did say on their site that they'd like us to simply work together. I think people should have who they support and should be trusted by different characters, but all the information gathered should be shared between all of us and they're should be no password protection or anything stupid like that. Also, the PM's must be prepared for us to share the information, and as I read somewhere, I'm sure all playing are professional enough to contain any information from characters, but if it does get out, the PM's must be prepared! I just think we should all work together at all times, and use our own strength, to find the REAL truth, because right now, we have no idea who really is the right side to be on...

I also don't like the use of the word Credits after that test! I'm not going to be paying...

Rant over =)

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 		I aplied for AB as a myspace friend.

my name there is Noneayo

I haven't mailed AB yet if that's nessecary. I just want to read what info is gathered there, so im not completely convinced this split forum thing is a good idea. Ideally i wanna lurk for a while while rooting for AB (for now. I still have no clue what the big picture is)

I guess the mantra could be re-written to fit my view as:
Strength in consolidation, consolidation on one forum

=)

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WangGuantao wrote:

I haven't mailed AB yet if that's nessecary. I just want to read what info is gathered there, so im not completely convinced this split forum thing is a good idea. Ideally i wanna lurk for a while while rooting for AB (for now. I still have no clue what the big picture is)

I guess the mantra could be re-written to fit my view as:
Strength in consolidation, consolidation on one forum


Well, and besides all the rest of the issues raised, the whole password-protected forum strategy effectively isolates the player community and makes it very hard for new people to 1) figure out what's going on with the game and 2) get involved.

Yet another reason I think it's a Very Bad Idea.
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Phaedra wrote:

I beg your pardon?

"Not suited for ARGs"?

<blink>

I think setting up accounts to check MySpace pages is tedious, and often don't have time to keep track of tons of different sites.

Thanks for letting me know I'm not suited to ARGs. Jetpack


Check what he said. He thinks it's tedious to keep track of both forums. Even without the myspace thing. Myspace is not the main point he's discussing. It's keeping track of two forums!

If you want all the information on a single place, ready and linear to read, a book will be better. Just two forums is really small for an ARG. If that's too much for him, I stand by what I said. He is not suited for ARGs.
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Arkaham wrote:
Check what he said. He thinks it's tedious to keep track of both forums. Even without the myspace thing. Myspace is not the main point he's discussing. It's keeping track of two forums!

If you want all the information on a single place, ready and linear to read, a book will be better. Just two forums is really small for an ARG. If that's too much for him, I stand by what I said. He is not suited for ARGs.


Wow, and you became an expert on who should and shouldn't be playing ARGs when, exactly?
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 		I have to say I agree - I thought the point of ARGs was for those interested players to work through the game together.

I agree it is difficult to keep up with several forums, but I also agree that one or two will not be enough. I would suggest forums/threads more along these lines:
Bracken - what he knows what he says
Foo - what he knows what he says
Deus City - what we know what is said
Puzzles - work on solving puzzles
Transmissions - Anything media related (audio, video) from blogs, hacked feeds, etc.

A Wiki summary page would be fantastic! I would offer to do it, but I can't keep up with the game now! Plus I have no clue how to "do" a wiki page.

Just my 2 cents worth.

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WolfHawk wrote:
I have to say I agree - I thought the point of ARGs was for those interested players to work through the game together.


The point of ARGs, insofar as there is one, is to have fun. Smile

And people have all sorts of playing styles, amounts of time to spend, levels of involvement, and so on. None of which is really more legitimate than any other. A fairly common metaphor used for the player base is an inverted pyramid, with players with the least amount of involvement (they may only check out a single in-game site a few times and never come to a community site like Unfiction), who make up the largest proportion of the player base, down to a very small number of extremely-involved players that form the tip on which the pyramid rests (those people who post here, create resources like guides or wikis, chat in IRC about the game, and so on). The pyramid may be supported by this tip of active players, but they're also usually a tiny portion of the entire player base.

Point being, play how you want to play. Smile
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 		EDIT:

Ok, what I posted is below. But I don't want to go on with this. I'm not the kind of person who gets into this kind of arguments. But the frustration level the drama behind this game gave me has taken the best out of me.

I'm sorry fonograph. I was out of line telling you were not suited for ARG's. I do think you should try to enjoy more the exploration aspect of the genre, where you need to collect the information from severeal sources, but you're entitled not to.

That said, I think while we get the IG separate forums creating a myspace is a nice contribution to the game by players.

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Wow, and you became an expert on who should and shouldn't be playing ARGs when, exactly?


I have never claimed to be an expert. But I read some cool guides when I first got here. Like Brook's quickstart guyide, or the very uF player tutorial. And guess what? They keep mentioning this idea about 'exploration' I thought that meant exploring, as in getting information from more than one place.

But since you are the expert here and not me I may be wrong and this 'exploration' thing may really be a stone in the shoe. I will never recomend another player not to shun on having more than a single site on an ARG.

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