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[Marl64]

[PUZZLE] Dina - Deadcafe / BalladsofFrogs / Triad

[Marl64]

And here's some contributions picked out from the original thread that were relevant to these pages - Sorry if I missed any.

[Toast]

Wait...this is kind of insignificant, but I think it deserves a slight mention.

Seems that Dina actually hit the ground in her dream? Most people wake up before that bit...it's a common belief that if you hit the ground in your dream, you die in real life. Of course, that's not true, but maybe this represents something? Like, I don't know, how her "other self" died?

Oooookay. Long shot, yeah? Like most of my posts...

[WingLess]

[adagio]

The instant I saw someone mention the E Major triad, I tried it, and it didn't work. Maybe I put it in wrong. I got out my oud music theory books and started trying all kinds of terms, to no avail.

The thing about the five walls, might actually be a lead...

"The allegory of belief [iman] is that of a land that has five walls – al-Hajjawi said in its commentary: It is said that the allegory of belief is that of a land that has five walls. The first wall [the innermost wall] made from gold, the second from silver, the third from iron, the forth from cooked clay [aajurr], and the fifth [the outermost wall] from brick. As long as the people of the brick wall are diligent in protecting the brick, the enemy does not aspire [destroying] the second; but if they neglect this [brick wall], they will aspire for the second and then the third, until they demolish all of the walls. And like belief [iman] has five walls: certainty, then sincerity, then performing what is obligatory, then the recommended [sunan], and then refined behavior [aadab]. As long as one holds to and is diligent with having refined behavior, Satan does not scheme [to destroy] him. But if one forsakes refined behavior, Satan aspires to [destroying] the recommended works, then the obligatory, then sincerity, and then certainty."

I found that on this page http://mac.abc.se/home/onesr/h/253.html

[el kabong]

Wow, that's very cool, whether it pertains to the game or not.

[Marl64]

It would certainly help explain "two times four times three times 5", which is actually the numbers 2 to 5 in a wierd order.

Only the inner wall is unbreached.

Another thing bugging me...

[Omnie]

[SquareKnight]

[Cyfre]

I really don't like to equate anything that's going on in this ARG with the trilogy, and i know most of us on here are trying to put that completely out of our minds. But these dream journals of Dina's are so hard to ignore.

The first dream she talked about, with the broken pavement, tunnels inthe earth, etc... how much does that sound like the matrix just before it was rebooted in Revolutions? She's feeling angry, upset, all those things (when everyone in the world is presumably Smith), and then suddenly she isn't feeling that (when everyone is back to normal). Obviously, the experience is something that the machines would have had to wipe from minds across the world. But a mind more disconnected with the reality of the matrix could easier access the information. She just does it by way of a dream.

I think this dream is easily a first-hand account of The Matrix system beginning to fail at the end of Revolutions, just from the P.O.V. of a human inside The Matrix.

Of course, it probably doesn't mean much to this ARG. Blah.

[Omnie]

Cyfre, that's cool. I really like that interpretation...the Dina-sees-the-real-world theory had quite a few flaws that were bothering me. Only thing is...I'm going to put this in spoiler tags in case some people haven't seen Revolutions (and I think we should all do that outside of the Revolutions spoiler thread for now):

[Toast]

[lurker]

observation

[XtRaVa]

agents dont make sense...they try to kill neo, and yet the machines need neo in order to restart the matrix! lol

ive actually thought up a very long winded way to debunk what i just said...because i might of had to kill myself if there wasnt at least one way to explain why they do it.

[surfloser]