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[hobyrne]

[goldfish]

I'm new to this so please ignore if I have repeated other posts. I have to believe that if you put in an answer to this card and it is correct it will have to correlate with their given answer. As it is hard to think that they have solved the age old problem I doubt that the answer is to prove/unprove it. Although if you could it would be worth a million as that is what you would get from the CMI. Also it says if you solve this PUZZLE you win a million. Not if you solve this card. I suggest the card is simpler than it seems.

[aliendial]

Nice synthesis of the comments made throughout the previous 40 pages, leaving out the people who think Riemann's can actually be solved. Any idea where to go with it?

[fretty]

I think there is definitely something more to this card. I also think that MC have anticipated that we would leave the card alone, thinking that it is unsolvable and have planned ahead on what to say on the matter. We have heard a little bit about this card from the sentinel but how much has actually been confirmed. They spread rumours that this card is unsolvable. It may be that we are playing right into MC's hands on this one, like they are trying to fool us all.

[pheebs]

i'm kind of inclined to agree with you fretty. the answer is probably not x1 squared over 5 cubed (or whatever it is that actually proves the hypothesis) but more along the lines of "put it in the oven and see if it burns" (of course im not saying in the slightest thats the answer, but.. you get what im saying).
I dont see why mind candy would put out an unsolvable card, it kinda defeats the purpose...

by the way... im sure that sometime in season 2 we'll be given a bit more of a clue to the unsolved season 1 cards if theyre not solved by then! i have a friend who's brother is an artist for season 2 cards... but he doesnt know anything either!!

[fretty]

Well I haven't heard anything either, being an puzzle architect of 2 minor Season 2 cards myself, all I do know is that Season 2 is nearly full of cards and has possibly some have been printed already.

Another thought about this card, has anyone tried to destegg the card? I am all for the thought that there is actually something "hidden" on this card.

[pheebs]

i'm liking that thought too fretty!
perhaps we have to peel off the clay institute "sticker" or maybe just rub it and see if a genie appears?

[basil3legs]

I still can't believe people are actually discussing how to prove Riemann to solve this card!! Do you actually believe that should you actually solve Riemann that typing it in the solution box will give a solve for the card? This would mean that they already have the solution - which they obviously don't!!

Get a grip.

If this card is actually currently solvable - i.e. there is something you can type in the answer box to get a solve - it is DEFINITELY NOT a proof of Riemann, unless they intend to make this the solve at a later date when/IF it is ever proved.

Many brilliant mathematical minds have been working on this for some time and have had no joy so do you think you can actually do better? If you do though, I doubt you will be too fussed with the solve for this card having just collected $1,000,000.00!!

I know this isn't actually that helpful but is true!!

[aliendial]

basil3legs, nobody is arguing that. Except noobs who don't read anything before they post. Those still thinking about this card are brainstorming about the puzzle really being about something else on the card that hasn't been figured out yet. Because we gotta believe there's a way to earn points from this card.

[jaikaiman]

I must agree with you Aliendial, they must have some form of answer in their database solve area, and despite my best efforts, they just won't impart it to me...lol. There are thousands of people everywhere all trying to get this card solved, and thats the whole point of this game, people collaborating, communities brought together for the common good. Its possible that Mind Candy believe that whoever proves or disproves the Reiman Hypothosis will go to the Clay Institute before doing the solve, thereby giving Mind Candy the time to post up the correct solve?

[James Siegesmund]

While I hate to stop anyone who's having fun brainstorming on this card, I really don't think there is an answer that earns points here.

Remember, this card is from Wave 1 -- i.e. before MC had much, if any, feedback on the cards. I think they made this card as an homage to Earth's great unsolved puzzles -- they never expected any player to actually solve it. That has turned out to bother a lot of people, and I think was the reason the card was taken out of circulation.

I doubt we'll see anything like it in season two, but I think that's what happened here.

That said, I'd love to see a Zen Koan card: (from Wiki) "A monk asked Zhaozhou, 'What is the meaning of Bodhidharma's coming from the west?' Zhaozhou said, 'The cypress tree in the courtyard'." Eat that, Kate Brewster!!!

[rose]

Maybe Riemann was to point out that prime numbers are important in this game? But we would have figured that out ourselves eventually.

I do have trouble with the idea that this card was designed to not be solvable for points, but as it is out of print, maybe that is the correct interpretation.

[jaikaiman]

Does all this talk imply that the attempts to solve Reimman are coming to an end

Hope not..With all the minds this collaboration has brought together, surely this will be solved one way or another...in the next 25 years maybe! LOL

[pheebs]

we're right on both counts - either its supposed to prove the reimann hypothesis or we're looking for something else on the card. either way there is an answer, whether it be to proove the hypothesis in which case we just wait, or until we crack whatever MC want. either way if there was no answer why would there be an answer box? just MHO.
i would suggest we try and solve it another way, at least until there is a definite proof/unproof of the hypothesis by clay institute, even if it takes 10 more years... you never know how MC are thinking. it's worth points so there must be something to it...

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decryption?