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enaxor
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 		Cooldrew, count the dots. Each row of dots represents a letter of the alphabet, i.e. the first row has 23 dots which represents the 23rd letter W. Hope that helps. Smile
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 		Exactly what negativeview did
This is exactly what negativeview did, but a smidge cleaner.

The letters are clearly:

TOESOYNOC
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 11:26 pm
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 		c'mon, Rosie is the most riveting!



Sorry. My only other contribution is that I found the website where our boot is referenced from: http://www.alldressforms.com/miniature-antiqued-western-cowboy-cowgirl-boot.html

It's actually a miniature, not a real boot.

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 		I'm wondering, is this the only package or are all of us who sent in a reply going to receive something? And will they all relate, or do we only answer our own.

tCotSA really should give us a bit of guidance here
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 11:45 pm
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mapmaker
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RedHatty wrote:
I'm wondering, is this the only package or are all of us who sent in a reply going to receive something? And will they all relate, or do we only answer our own.

tCotSA really should give us a bit of guidance here

I may have a package waiting for me in Boston - but I would normally think that if I got a package, all y'all'd get one too.

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mapmaker wrote:
RedHatty wrote:
I'm wondering, is this the only package or are all of us who sent in a reply going to receive something? And will they all relate, or do we only answer our own.

tCotSA really should give us a bit of guidance here

I may have a package waiting for me in Boston - but I would normally think that if I got a package, all y'all'd get one too.


I just hope someone other than me gets one Smile
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 		The original letter said

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after a healthy number of correct solutions have been received, components of the next Challenge will be mailed out. recipients of these components will be randomly drawn from the pool of correct solutions to the previous Challenge.


I may be completely off-base, but the way that I read it, it would imply that if there's only one clue to be given in any given "round," it would go to a random person and...

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to solve all Challenges beyond the Initial Challenge, some manor [sic] of alliance within your ranks will be indispensable, but we will leave you to your own devices to sort out those details.


... we would have to "find out" the challenge if this was the case and we didn't get a mailing. Now, that doesn't necessarily imply that that's what happened in this case, so we're still relatively clueless.

Being my first one I just went ahead and answered this question. I don't think that tCotSA will get too upset at you if you did the same. I just hope that I get something in this round, as my reply was a spoof (of sorts) of their letters and I'm interested in seeing if I managed to get a personalized reply.
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 		This round? Do you mean the Aaron Burr answer, or have you figured this new one out?
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 		I believe that Lovek has posted (in spoiler tags, so you may not have seen it) the question that we're supposed to answer in this round.

The stuff after that (with the strange letters that was later refined by mapmaker) I believe is part of a larger meta-puzzle which hasn't been figured out.

Sorry for any confusion with the term "round." I used it in trying to explain this particular ARG to a few AIM buddies and didn't realize that it was a term that hadn't been used on this board.
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negativeview wrote:


The stuff after that (with the strange letters that was later refined by mapmaker) I believe is part of a larger meta-puzzle which hasn't been figured out.



I'd encourage anyone new to our little game that might be interested to go back and read through the old letters (look for scanned images and photos because -- believe it or not -- there has been NO Internet or phone element to this game). There are puzzle-like items that have appeared since the very first letters that we have yet to make heads or tails of.
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 		Volunteer
If it is even deemed as needed
I volunteer to go through catalogging that which hasn't been solved if anyone has the power/knows how a post not at the very beginning could be moved to the beginning or otherwise made prominent. At some point in the possibly near future (for all we know though it won't be important until the very last challenge) all of the unsolved clues we have so far will need to be easily referenceable.

I will edit this post if need be.
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 		For those still thinking of a Riveting personage, here's a couple articles that may help you along Smile

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Remarkable Riveting Record

During World War I, Belfast, Ireland, was a major shipbuilding center. Local shipyards such as Harland and Wolff Ltd. (the company that built the Titanic, as well as other famous ocean liners) and Workman, Clark and Co. Ltd. constructed numerous battleships, destroyers and other large vessels.
To increase production rates and boost morale, the companies created a special riveting competition among their assemblers. Numerous records were set and then broken. But, John Moir eclipsed them all.

On June 5, 1918, Moir drove 11,209 7/8-inch rivets into the double-bottom floor of a ship during a 9-hour shift. In the seventh hour, Moir shattered his own one-hour world record of the previous week by driving in 1,409 rivets--average of 23.5 rivets per minute. In his best minute, he drove in 26 rivets.

Moir beat his closest rival, John Lowry of Harland and Wolff, by more than 4,000 rivets! For his remarkable achievement, Moir's company presented him with a special £50 check as a prize. Moir's endeavor also earned him widespread fame and respect--he received telegrams from numerous dignitaries, including King George V and Prime Minister Lloyd George.




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Kilroy Was There!

James Kilroy worked in a shipyard in Quincy, MA, during World War II. He was responsible for checking and recording the number of rivets that were driven by workers. It was an important job, because the riveters were paid by the rivet.
At first, Kilroy counted a block of rivets and uses a chalk check mark to indicate that the block had been checked so the rivets wouldn't be counted twice. However, some riveters would erase the chalk mark when Kilroy went off duty. When a new checker came along, it would get counted twice and the riveters would end up getting paid twice.

When management discovered a payroll discrepancy, Kilroy was ordered to investigate. After he discovered what the riveters were doing, Kilroy started writing "Kilroy Was Here" in large crayoned letters.

Under normal circumstances, Kilroy's lettering would have been painted over. However, as the war dragged on, ships were being built and sent into battle so quickly that there wasn't any time for painting.

Millions of servicemen saw Kilroy's "graffiti" and began scrawling his slogan wherever they landed, claiming it was already there when they arrived. As a result, Kilroy suddenly became the "super GI" who always managed to be one step ahead. "Kilroy Was Here" became a secret code and friendly reminder indicating that Allied forces were nearby. It became a challenge to place the slogan in every place imaginable. People claim to have seen it in some unusual places, such as on top of Mt. Everest and on the moon. At the Potsdam Conference that marked the end of World War II, a special outhouse was built for the exclusive use of Churchill, Roosevelt and Stalin. The first person to use it was Stalin, who emerged and promptly asked one of his aids, "Who is Kilroy?"

In 1946, the Transit Company of America held a contest to discover the "real" Kilroy. More than 35 men stepped forward, but James Kilroy brought along officials from the shipyard and some of the riveters to prove his authenticity. Kilroy was awarded a trolley car, which he placed in his yard as a playhouse for his nine children.

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 		Thoughts
Brought about by reviewing everything in case I need to summarize
Two letters received by SpaceBass were tagged with the two-number pairs: "one one" and "one seven." One received by Lovek was also tagged as "four seven." The second number has repeated itself (though not by the same person) and the first number has stayed constant for a given person. We need more datapoints to make anything out of this though, and I have no clue where ? two through ? six went to.

ETA: Lovek mentions in text (there was no picture, so I missed it the first time) that there was a "four one" written in red somewhere in his first package. I now STRONGLY believe that the first number is some sort of ID per person and the second is going to repeat for each person, but is going in some strange sequence. So far we have 1,7.

Concerning the letter that Lovek received that starts "while their specific extractions..." (letter "four seven")... There is a diagram that is supposed to help with the then-current puzzle, which wound up being the impressions in the paper. I was struck, however, looking back at how similar it was to the "hangman diagrams." I first interpreted the puzzle as merely a hint as to the impressions in the paper, but putting them side by side makes me wonder even more. What number, then, is it in the list? And why instead of an open and closed circle is there an "up" and "down" triangle? Or am I completely off my rocker?
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 		Well, they could just be representations of opposites-- up and down, black and white.

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negativeview
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 		They could indeed be just opposites. The only thing that I can currently think of to make from that is that the two sides are separate. There is usually a sortof space between the two groups of six (2x3 on the left side, and 3x2 on the right). Why then keep a pattern for most then break it, instead of having different opposites during each letter? Especially since it was broken on the letter that was somehow special (ie, was sent mostly as a helper since we were fairly stuck) which hints I might be completely off my rocker trying to make them connected at all.

I still want more datapoints to make any firm conclusions, though. The next round of letters can't come soon enough. Curse the holiday weekend!

I can't seem to make short posts, ever. Sad
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