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AngBa
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Re: [update] Nancy's myspace

Sylvia wrote:
http://www.myspace.com/131325347

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Thursday, December 14, 2006


Paper with initials?

Among all the stuff I've been digging through, I came upon a paper with initials on it.

A.C. C.E. M.K. M.N. E.G.

I have no idea what these are, so don't bother asking. Its dated November 10, but no year.

3:34 AM


It's amazing what you can do when you have time!
So, I was rereading the posts and the Jack the Ripper connection struck a chord with me - I've always been interested in that case, so I did a little research.

The Lupeus page shows us that the face is Dr. Roslyn D'Onston - one of the primary suspects in the unsolved mystery.

ETA:
Deleting the pic, it didn't load correctly - Tips will add it below Wink


The initials A.C. C.E. M.K. M.N. E.G on Nancy's blog are that of Jack the Ripper's victims.
Annie Chapman
Catharine Eddowes
Marry Jane Kelly
Marry Nichols
Elizabeth Stride (keep in mind Elizabeth's maiden name was Gustafsdotter)

So, I emailed Nancy that we now know what the initials mean - and I asked her more about her mom.

I also had previously emailed Nancy's only friend on myspace that had left her comments Sadistic Dolly saying that Nancy might be in trouble and asked if she could help. Her reply was
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What kind of trouble do you think Nancy is in?
I haven't heard back yet.


***I would like to thank Tipsila for helping me fix the pictures I sent when I was questioning whether or not they were the same, the QUICK association to Jack the Ripper, and finding that Gustafsdotter was actually Elizabeth Stride's maiden name - within a matter of 15 minutes we had it. Teamwork is incredible! Thanks Tips - YOU'RE THE BEST!!!!
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tipsila
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Here is the picture comparison I made.
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Mountain Girl
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Here's Nancy's response to what happened to her mother:

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My father told us that she passed away in a car accident. I'm not even sure if he knows. She took good care of us, and wanted the best for us. I would like to think she died peacefully, but I don't know. I think I asked my dad about it a couple years ago, and his answer was more along the lines of how good a person she was, how we should remember her.

Nancy


She also sent this in response to where she lived in London:
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City of London, Fenchurch St. Station. Moon unit is such a great name for a kid, wouldn't you say? It must have been nice living in Italy. I've tried a few Tuscan wines and enjoyed them greatly.


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Well, I saw "Dweezil Zappa" playing all of his dad's songs along with some other members of the original "Mothers of Invention." It rocked!

You lived in London? I lived in Italy for 3 years. Europe is great. Where did you live in London? Were one of your parents employed there?

I hate cleaning up and going through things. Sorry you're having to do it.

MG


I just got back from the Zappa plays Zappa show. We were discussing Frank, hence the "Moon Unit" reference.
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AngBa
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Here is the initial link to the site I found the ROS picture from - it's a good synopsis to the history of Jack the Ripper.

My question is - how do werewolves come into play? Shocked
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AngBa
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Mountain Girl wrote:

Nancy

She also sent this in response to where she lived in London:
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City of London, Fenchurch St. Station. Moon unit is such a great name for a kid, wouldn't you say? It must have been nice living in Italy. I've tried a few Tuscan wines and enjoyed them greatly.




Nice information Mountain Girl... it looks like Fenchurch St. is part of the Jack the Ripper walk.


wouldn't it be nice if players could play together nicely?
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Seems this isn't about Nancy's mom, as much as her step father, since his name is Stephenson.... "the blood of Robert shall die for the piscis"

The pictures above are of Robert Donston Stephenson, aka Dr. Roslyn D'Onston.

It was said that he dabbled in black magic and the occult...

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We need to be careful how we approach her with this information, if at all. What a conundrum. Nancy is genuinely fond of her step-father. How do we tell her he's pure evil?
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AngBa
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On a completely unrelated note:

MG's chat with Sladius last night:

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MountainGirlXD: How are you?
Sladius: I'm good, how bout you?
MountainGirlXD: I'm great
Sladius: Good. I took some more pictures today... they came out pretty well I think.
MountainGirlXD: I saw them! They are good
MountainGirlXD: you're getting handy with the camera
Sladius: Thanks. The checkerboard Lili made for me. She's so great.
Sladius: I mean friend wise.
MountainGirlXD: of course


Go look at the PICTURES again - WHY exactly is the first checkerboard picture on a rectangular table, and the second checkerboard picture on a round table?????? It looks like it's in a completely different room.
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Mountain Girl wrote:
We need to be careful how we approach her with this information, if at all. What a conundrum. Nancy is genuinely fond of her step-father. How do we tell her he's pure evil?

You think that her stepfather is evil? I don't think that to be the case. He may be the grandchild or great-grandchild of Robert D'Onston Stephenson, but not necessarily evil himself.

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Ok, then at this point he's just connected with "pure evil." I have a feeling he's not going to be only what he appears. He lived in London, Fenchurch St. to be exact. Her mother died somewhat mysteriously, and they are in possession of the second page. I have a feeling the immortal soul aspect of a werewolf may be playing a part here. Wink
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Alrighty... what you say may be true, but why (if Vinne was Wolfman Jack the Ripper be Quick incarnate), would he kill his wife and then decided to raise her kids??? Unless they were really his kids.... Foily!

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From the 'business' card the guy who rummaged through Nancy's trash dropped, "the blood of Robert shall die for the piscis"

A 2002 article in The Observer explains that Jack the Ripper was an occultist who was indulging in a sadistic form of Satanic worship.

According to a new book, Jack the Ripper's Black Magic Rituals, the Ripper's true motive was to kill four prostitutes as the occult decreed and, in so doing, profane the Christian cross.

The book's author, Ivor Edwards, states:

'One avenue, which was never explored by the police of the day, mainly due to their ignorance, was occult ritual murder, including the doctrine that certain organs should be removed from murdered prostitutes, killed at pre-arranged sites, which were to be located at the four points of the compass.'


Edwards measured the distances from victim to victim and took compass readings to discover if there was a pattern between the sites where the women were murdered. This had never been done before.

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'I found that by joining some of the sites together, you created two equilateral triangles; a sacred symbol which, in occult doctrine, Satan devised to be used in worship of him,' Edwards said. By joining the sites in a different way, a Christian cross was revealed.

After examining the position of the fifth and last victim, 25-year-old Marie Jeanette Kelly, Edwards realised that all the women were killed within a 500-yard radius and that, by joining the sites together, it was possible to create the Vesica Piscis, a fish-like symbol worshipped by the early Christians. By murdering his victims and leaving their bodies in that way, the killer intended a tribute to Satan.


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Last night while researching Jack the Ripper, I clicked on a site and when the page had loaded I was stunned to see Enoch's avatar in front of me!

His avatar is a pic of Aleister Crowley


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Tips, you never cease to amaze me!

Ok, so another tidbit of info that we uncovered... in Nancy's blog she states that the paper she found was dated November 10th - no year.

The final murder of Mary Kelly was November 9, 1888

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Finally, his last murder was the most bloody, the most horrible. After one and a half month without other murders, Jack the Ripper struck again for a fifth and final time in Miller's Court on 9th November 1888. The victim was a pretty 25 years old girl, Mary Jane Kelly.



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I see your line of thinking. Most references consider his reign as ending on November 10th.

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murderer of at least five women, all prostitutes, in or near the Whitechapel district of London's East End, from August 7 to November 10, 1888. It is one of the most famous unsolved mysteries of English crime.

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