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Medemia
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[Update] New picture at Wongmo.com In the student's art area... does it mean anything? Probably not.
http://www.wongmo.org/images/art7.jpg
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 1:01 pm
Toast
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Oh, of course , it symbolises the flames of hell, and that moth is the one from Silence of the Lambs! Now I get it!
...I don't know what that means, really. Three light fixtures, one curvy two straight, a weird illuminated background, and a moth drawn towards the light? (It's a moth, I think. Butterflies at rest fold their wings up.)
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 1:21 pm
surfloser
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could be a dead butterfly!
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 1:28 pm
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 1:28 pm
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Actually, butterflies do flap/stretch their wings when they land sometimes, so it could be either one. The pic might have been taken with the butterflies wings in mid stretch.
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 1:28 pm
bakntime
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Hmm... 3 lights... holy number... trinity (not necessarily "the" Trinity)
The triangle they form kinda reminded me of the triangles on the map of Murpha project locations, but it's probably just coincidence.
Butterfly symbolism: http://kc.mybravenet.com/bflysym.html
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There is a Native American legend that says, " If you have a secret wish, capture a butterfly and whisper your wish to it. Since butterflies cannot speak, your secret is ever safe in their keeping. Release the butterfly, and it will carry your wish to the Great Spirit, who alone knows the thoughts of butterflies. By setting the butterfly free, you are helping to restore the balance of nature, and your wish will surely be granted."
They are a symbol of change, joy, and color. (There is also an association of Faerie folklore with butterflies.) Their flight appears as dancing, and a reminder not to take things so seriously. They have a sense of lightness and joy. They are reminders to get up and move, for if you can move you can dance, and dance brings joy.
The butterfly is a powerful symbol for transformation. It leaves the safety of the cocoon in it's new form. This is an excellent image for anyone contemplating, or in the midst of a major change. A butterfly is a strong symbol of metamorphosis, with distinct stages. The butterfly is a reminder to make changes when the opportunity arises. Change and transformation are inevitable for us all, but it does not have to be traumatic.Butterfly symbolism is also closely tied to the idea of spirits and souls. It has been used in many religions and cultures. Psyche is the Greek word for both soul and butterfly. The belief was that butterflies were human souls searching for a new reincarnation, which gave the creature uncanny and sometimes ominous connotations. This symbolism was also used in early Christianity as a symbol of the soul. Celts thought that women became pregnant by swallowing butterfly souls. These butterfly-souls flew about seeking a new mother. Other cultures believed that spirits of the dead took the form of white butterflies. In northern Europe to see one flying at night was a warning of death, and some said that the soul-butterfly's ability to leave the body in sleep accounts for dreams.
The Chinese believed a jade butterfly suggested a wedding of souls, making it an appropriate gift for the groom to give to his bride.
What's it mean? Maybe something, maybe nothing
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 1:39 pm
trip
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Perhaps this means "like moths to a flame."
Moths are attracted to the light of the flame, and when they fly into it, they die.
Perhaps this is what Wongmo does to his followers?
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 3:12 pm
Sh1ft
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Yep, it's a moth, not a butterfly.
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 3:14 pm
yanka
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Isn't this this new too, or am I horribly out-of-date?
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 3:25 pm
surfloser
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no i remember seeing that a while ago
someone posted that it looked like it was related to katgirls link on metadex but that proved false
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 3:28 pm
bakntime
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yanka wrote:
Isn't this this new too, or am I horribly out-of-date?
Ummmmm..... choice "B"
Yeah, that's been around for a while.
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 4:12 pm
bakntime
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Sh1ft wrote:
Yep, it's a moth, not a butterfly.
Uhh.... are you sure?
The "knobby" antannae clued me that it was a butterfly...
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 4:18 pm
bakntime
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I think I found our butterfly
The small tortoiseshell - (Aglais urticae):
http://www.ibs-t.net/lepidoptere/Aglais_urticae.htm
http://genome6.cpmc.columbia.edu/~kosterin/nymphal/urticae.htm
http://www.butterfly-guide.co.uk/species/nymphalids/uk8.htm
We can't see the blue on his wings because he's in an orange light.
A unique feature of the Nymphalinae family of butterflies is that they land with their wings flat and open, as opposed to most butterflies that land with their wings folded above them.
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 4:29 pm
Medemia
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So can we safely say that Mr. Estaban is from Europe as this seems to be a European butterfly or is that map only of Europe and the butterfly is worldwide?
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 4:49 pm
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Chaos Chaos theory, anyone? A butterfly flapping its wings in one part of the world...
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 4:52 pm
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