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[NEVEC][TRAILHEAD] NeoVenus Construction
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lisak
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yanka wrote:
CrackerJak wrote:
How............. how did we miss this...............?

We DIDN'T.


No, we didn't. Cursing

I'd like to say my true opinion but I promised myself I would refrain from using these words on discussion boards...

Well, anyway - congrats to CrackerJak for his tenacity. It's actualy a good feeling to have this off my shoulders.

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lisak
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 		Re: Minute decimation
xnbomb wrote:
However, to really specify an intersection accurately, you'd probably need to specify seconds as well, so either this intersection was selected because it lands nicely on round numbers of minutes of latitude and longitude, or the position simply is referring to that general area to the east of Golden Gate Park and to the west of downtown SF.


I agree with that - I think that these are the rough coordinates for the (supposed) future missile strike - the precise place is not very far from these coordinates and it is shown on the other image (@ neovenusconstruction, under "defense") - the precise location on Google Maps was identified several pages earlier. These two images support each other, we would have never found the place if it hadn't been for the image with the coordinates.

Just my opinion, though.

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blackhawk127
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 		Re: Minute decimation
xnbomb wrote:
Now that the fourth login has fallen, and we've had a look at what's inside, we get to see a pair of geographic coordinates again that we've seen before (although I think the point of the login puzzle was probably to give us access to this image, as opposed to simply finding the directory it was housed in, and getting the reward without doing the work):



The coordinate pair is 37d46-N 122d26-W. Previously, this was read by some as 37.46N 122.26W, leading to Upper Emerald Lake (Google Map).

However, I'm almost positive this is wrong. If you write the coordinates as they have been written, the value after the d refers to minutes of latitude or longitude, and not decimal degrees. Reporting geographic coordinates in degrees-minutes-seconds used to be standard practice, but now that GPS is around, you more often see decimal degrees, and people don't necessarily understand the difference readily.

37d46-N = 37 degrees 46 minutes N = 37 46/60 degrees N ~ 37.77N
122d26-W = 122 degrees 26 minutes W = 122 26/60 degrees W ~ 122.43W

Plug this into Google Maps, and you find the intersection of Noe and Henry Streets (Google Map), in San Francisco, just as Yanka rightly wrote above. However, to really specify an intersection accurately, you'd probably need to specify seconds as well, so either this intersection was selected because it lands nicely on round numbers of minutes of latitude and longitude, or the position simply is referring to that general area to the east of Golden Gate Park and to the west of downtown SF.


that intersection is also pretty close to ghirardell chocolates sq, fishermans warf, and the wax museum.

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argodaemon
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 		New Alfred post... Seems he is really going all out with the candy bar thing... Shocked

Nothing in the source, but I went through it in IE, so who knows. Confused

I wonder is sometime we will get a link to this "webcam"...

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 		So, who thinks someone is stealing Alfred's keys and snooping around his apartment? Or that Phil's camera will catch some bad guy doing something... uh, bad... in his office?
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argodaemon
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 		 Ciphor Update
Again, this may never come up again, but...

I was looking through past conversations in MSNM and I came across a talk with CrackerJak that involved a conversation with Alfred. Cracker asked him "does [TEACH ILLOGICAL HORDES] anagram?". Alfred had responded "11-3-30" or YES. I just realized that it means they consider Y a vowel and it would then be a 11 and not a 40. The following Z would be the 40.

I would update the post with the ciphor, but I was a guest then Sad. Just remember!!!! I DID update the excel sheet I made, although you can easily correct that yourself. Very Happy

Edit: Just a thought from this... Two of the pictures from the login pages contain characters and numbers: one has L & P, the other 1-11. If 1=A and 11=Y, then the letters between them can spell PLAY. Curious.... Confused

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Boy Blue
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 		Indeed curious but to what use? Have we missed some obvious clue? Since the 4th login was solved all the activity we've had was a blog post from Alfred.

Are there more sites for us to discover out there? Quick scour the internet! Comb the deserts! Use the schwartz!

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argodaemon
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yanka wrote:
So, who thinks someone is stealing Alfred's keys and snooping around his apartment? Or that Phil's camera will catch some bad guy doing something... uh, bad... in his office?


I say that this is 100% certain... here is how I get this.

Alfred Post - October 15th, 2006
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Got home last night and the damn cat let himself out of the bathroom when I came through the front door! That's right. He let himself out. I stepped through my front door, shut it behind me, slid off my shoes, and then heard a distinct "click" as the long door handle of the bathroom was pulled downward by a little gray paw.

Do you think it is TRULY possible for a small kitten to open a bathroom door? All bathroom doors open IN, so not only would the small thing have to turn that big knob... I would have to find a way to PULL the door. My thought, someone didn't leave his apartment before he got home and was escaping out the window...

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I keep him in there during the day because he gets into everything. He finds chocolate I forgot I put in a drawer MONTHS ago. He unearthed a taco sauce packet from the depths of the couch, possibly from 1993. He has traversed the beams on the ceiling and has taught himself how to open every drawer and door in the house. No shelf is safe either.

A kitten could NOT open a drawer. Come on. Too heavy. By the sounds of it, Alfred is complaining because everything is a mess. If someone was looking for something, they would search the drawers, look in the couch, move items from the shelf... so on.
Afterthought... Chocolate... almost sounds like it was eaten. On a pet website, I found that chocolate is DEADLY to cats. A small kitten wouldn't need much. So why is the cat still alive. Who is the chocoholic in the NeVeC story? Phil. Shocked

Alfred's Post - December 13th, 2006
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Who knows what destruction he will wreak upon the apartment just to spite me for going on a trip I don't want to go on? I've warned my neighbor, Robert, about Akemi's demonic ways, but Rob isn't taking me too seriously. He thinks he'll just be able to traipse into the apartment, feed the beast, scoop the litter and scritch the cute lil' cat's ears a little before exiting. I've warned him, that's all I'll say.

If I was told a cat was a demon spawn, I would be cautious... I know cats that much at least. Sounds like Robert knows that there is nothing wrong with Akemi...

Alfred Post - December 15th, 2006
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Anyway, the tiredness is making me feel like my brain is mush. Half the time I think I have left my keys on my desk and I find them somewhere else completely. The other night I came home and found that I had left the door to my apartment unlocked all day.

I don't think so. Someone took his keys, entered the apartment, forgot to lock the door, and placed them back where they THOUGHT they had been. Being Phil and the janitor work with Alfred, it would be easy for them to take the keys and easily return them without even being missed.

After all that, my current guesses as to the culprit are: Phil, Robert the neighbor and the Janitor (for being weird).

The "Why not"s
Phil - What would he need from Alfred? If he works in the same company, why would he need to "steal" info or invade Alfred's home? Does TourBit plan to steal NeoVenus' ideas!

Robert - Being the neighbor, he probably already has a copy of Alfred's key, being that he already know Alfred enough to have him watch his cat. No need to "borrow" them from his work.

Janitor - Not enough to say as of yet...

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 		Well this has certainly been a rather hectic few days for me. On friday, my laptop's hard drive decided that it might be fun to die on me. On saturday, I was flying back to California when some kind of stomach flu caught up with me and I threw up on the plane (something I have never done before). I spent most of sunday recovering.


Bleh... Sad

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 		i know this has been discussed but i was wondering about the letters in the image. i seem to remember an equation that used gamma and the inverted rho to describe energy required to produce a self growing heat source...i.e. terraforming. also i have taken a look at the science links on alfreds page and it would seem that he is pointing out that the technology need for the game is already beign used in one way or another...the man with no pulse is using a machine that is similar to the thermal regulator. just a thought..

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 		Although I think there's definitely something to the keys being misplaced and stuff, I'd just like to mention that I used to have a cat that could open doors and drawers and do all manner of human-like smart things, and it drove me bonkers.

'Course, I never locked her in the bathroom, so I probably have more shredded books than Alfred does. Razz
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argodaemon
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 		While I will not argue that a cat would have the ability to open drawers and doors, I find it hard to see a young kitten doing such. Also, I have not heard him specifically talk of Akemi causing any destruction while he is home, just the normal kitty stuff (minor-to-mediocre mayhem). Most of it seems to be while Alfred is at work.

Also, if a kitten were digging in a couch and found a sauce packet, I would think the couch would have severe scratch marks. Hard to confirm such without visuals, though.

I found it strange a while back that the cat was consistantly brought up as being evil and destroying everything; wondering what the relevance is to the ARG...

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 		Probably none. Its a bad kitty! Razz

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 		connections to real world events
Hi all, I am new here. I saw the brief messages at the end of the webisodes, and decided to check them out. So here I am, its my first ARG, and its a lot of fun. But down to business.

Does anyone know why earth became inhospitable? At the Antartic Regional Terraforming site, the research section shows a graph of temperatures at the south pole, and they have been increasing since 1996. In lost planet, does earth become inhospitable because of global warming? I doubt this is of any help, but who knows. Also, I'm sure this is old news, but on the medical section of the NeoVenus site, there is a picture of the thermal regulator.
I can't wait to see what this develops into, and I look forward to working with you guys on this.

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blackhawk127
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 		welcome to catch up on everything
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17695
as far as i can tell the decision to leave earth was to attempt and fix things like population and global warming by giving people a new place to live

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