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AngBa
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Ok, here's kinda my line of thinking (since I know I'm not alone in this)...

There are 5 pages and Jack had 5 victims. As Tips pointed out there is a definite connection with the 'piscis' find:

Quote:
'I found that by joining some of the sites together, you created two equilateral triangles; a sacred symbol which, in occult doctrine, Satan devised to be used in worship of him,' Edwards said. By joining the sites in a different way, a Christian cross was revealed.

After examining the position of the fifth and last victim, 25-year-old Marie Jeanette Kelly, Edwards realised that all the women were killed within a 500-yard radius and that, by joining the sites together, it was possible to create the Vesica Piscis, a fish-like symbol worshipped by the early Christians. By murdering his victims and leaving their bodies in that way, the killer intended a tribute to Satan.


...So Jack had 5 victims - Gatewood has now had 2 - both female found very close to each other, much like our infamous Serial Killer - there are 3 other known women/girls in Gatewood that we are aware of:

Lili
Isabelle
Diana

But we only have 2 pages (??? as I'm not sure that Nancy's is actually a page) - and now we need to wait for one of these 'poor girls' to die before we receive the 3rd?

Call me stoopid, but I am a little lost as to the plot/aim of the game - although I am having fun playing... that is for sure! It just seems like we are at a complete standstill again, until there is PM movement.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 8:53 pm
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Mountain Girl
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That's interesting spec as well. But how would that relate to this:

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: One will be born of Hatred, one of Pure Evil, one of Dark Method, One of Sinister Arts, and the last of Chaotic Charm.



If we follow the line of thinking that the girls are the one's related to the five pages, who was born of Hatred for the first page? Athena? If so, how? Seeing as how Nancy's step-father is a Stephenson, he could be "born of Pure Evil." Now, if the girls are the attributes listed, then Lili COULD be third or fourth. She is practicing the Dark Method/Sinister Art of shape-shifting that Father Enoch no longer teaches

More spec:
The first page came from clues referencing Hitler (hatred?) with a picture leading to the second, Jack the ripper. If we follow this line, we will be looking for another historical figure, and the second page will probably reference him/her. Who will be the dark method, Sinister Arts, and Chaotic Charm?
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One will be born of Hatred, one of Pure Evil, one of Dark Method, One of Sinister Arts, and the last of Chaotic Charm.


SPEC:Maybe this is a bloodline type thing. Gatewood has been around for 200 years, that's long enough for 5 generations - with the last offspring being in this time - the Chaotic one
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Mountain Girl
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Chat with Arius:

Quote:
You have just entered room "gatewood."
tipsila 1 has entered the room.
AngryBanana1125 has entered the room.
MountainGirlXD: Greetings
AriusXI: Good evening.
tipsila 1: hi
AngryBanana1125: Hello, Brother Arius
MountainGirlXD: To what do we owe this meeting, Arius?
Sylviaaaaaaaa has entered the room.
AriusXI: I have called about this meeting to bring some things to your attention without scaring the community too much.
Sylviaaaaaaaa: hello
AriusXI: Hello.
AngryBanana1125: Thank you... what is happening?
AriusXI: Perhaps I should wait for 2 more to see if they will show first.
AriusXI: Perhaps they are away right now, so I shall start, and hope the word will get to them as well.
AngryBanana1125: we will ensure that
AriusXI: Firstly, I'd like to begin by thanking you all for your much needed assistance,
AngryBanana1125: you are more than welcome
AriusXI: although things here in Gatewood have taken a turn for the worse.
tipsila 1: what now?
MountainGirlXD: I have invited another
AriusXI: We have recovered more bodies, Diana, age 25, a boy named Emery age 17, Isabell age 20, and several others are missing.
VerseAdvice has entered the room.
VerseAdvice: gotcha. thanks for the invite
MountainGirlXD: I was afraid that might happen
AngryBanana1125: where were they found?
tipsila 1: how many more are missing?
AriusXI: I have been completely honest with you all, although I have not exactly told you everything. Their bodies were found in various locations, and it took us 14 hours to determine who they were due to their... condition in which they
AriusXI: were found
MountainGirlXD: What was the condition of the bodies?
AngryBanana1125: please elaborate
AriusXI: For a lack of better description, torn, shredded.
MountainGirlXD: What have you kept back from us, Arius?
AngryBanana1125: Please, MG is right - to help, we need to know details
AriusXI: I fear that this is not all we have to worry about... I did not tell you of the missing ritual sheets from the great text. They have been recovered, but what's done is done.
tipsila 1: what was done?
MountainGirlXD: Does it have to do with the Lougarou?
AriusXI: These are not to be confused with the pages we still need, Lupeus I, II, III, VI, and V.
AriusXI: excuse me, IV
AriusXI: not VI
AngryBanana1125: Can you tell us more about the Great Text?
AriusXI: Ok, someone in Gatewood now possessess the knowledge in which to shift, and someone knows the Great Moon Rite as well.
MountainGirlXD: Lili
tipsila 1: two different people, or one and the same?
MountainGirlXD: How did she learn this?
AriusXI: The Great Text, or Lupeus Eternus, has been written by many, some genius, some mad.
AriusXI: Lili is but a suspect, and she is among those missing.
AriusXI: Back to the Text...
AngryBanana1125: Please
AriusXI: From your research and our divinations, we have determined that 5 men throughout history, have had possession of the text, or access to the "imposter" versions, such as Necronomicon, and untitled copies.
AriusXI: Those 5 were mad, disturbed or just evil.
AngryBanana1125: Yes, I think some of us have figured that out
AriusXI: Adolph Hitler, and Dr. Roslyn D'Onston are 2.
MountainGirlXD: Are two of these five, Hitler and Jack the Ripper
AngryBanana1125: So we need to find the other 3
AriusXI: Correct.
tipsila 1: and 4 other pages
AngryBanana1125: I think we know what direction to move forward with
AriusXI: You have found 1. Nancy most likely possesses another. This may prove to be a bit more difficult,
MountainGirlXD: Why?
AriusXI: Because the Sons of Loki are becoming stronger each minute.
MountainGirlXD: The divinations have shown Nancy will continue to evade them, correct?
AriusXI: Yes, that is correct. She possesses a gift in her blood, which protects her, thanks to Dr. D'Onston.
MountainGirlXD: Perhaps if we knew more of what she was looking for, we could guide her more in her search. We believe she holds the page, she just has to find it.
AngryBanana1125: so if we find the 3rd man, we can find the third page, correct?
AriusXI: This gift allows her to build a "psychic barrier" which keeps enemies at bay.
AriusXI: Correct.
AriusXI: There is no "right way" in which to find these pages, it is all up to you.
AngryBanana1125: We know what we need to do. I thank you for your information - we will find what you need
MountainGirlXD: How will she know this page when she finds it?
AriusXI: tell sladius to higffdah
AriusXI has left the room

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Chat with Sladius:
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MountainGirlXD: greetings
Sladius: hello
MountainGirlXD: I heard the bad news
Sladius: What bad news?
MountainGirlXD: Arius says to tell you "higffdah"
MountainGirlXD: About the others
Sladius: Hold on
Sladius: I just heard someone yell from XIII...
MountainGirlXD: Stay put
Sladius: What the hell is going on???
MountainGirlXD: First you must promise me to stay where you are
MountainGirlXD: Do you know what "higffdah" means?
Sladius: I don't think thats a word.
Sladius: Maybe a typo?
MountainGirlXD: just a sec and I'll tell you
MountainGirlXD: I think it's code.
MountainGirlXD: our friends and I are trying to figure it out
MountainGirlXD: Give us a few minutes
MountainGirlXD: while we're waiting, I can tell you what's happened
MountainGirlXD: Let me start by saying, Lili is fine
Sladius: Really? Tipsila told me alot of people are dead! Why didn't Sladius tell me? Who's dead?
MountainGirlXD: We don't know, we just know Lili is fine.
MountainGirlXD: Some are also missing
MountainGirlXD: Their bodies were torn, shredded
MountainGirlXD: Perhaps Diana really did see a Lougarou
MountainGirlXD: Are you there?
Sladius: Yes, I'm here.
Sladius: I'm just scared.
MountainGirlXD: Are you locked in?
MountainGirlXD: or rather, do you have your doors locked?
Sladius: Yes, the door is locked now.
MountainGirlXD: good
MountainGirlXD: Do you have any silver?
Sladius: I have a silver plate,
Sladius: are you thinking it will stop a Lougarou?
MountainGirlXD: does it have a cross on it?
MountainGirlXD: do you have rice or salt available?
Sladius: In the past, they could be destroyed with fire, or decapitation. They grew stronger and silver was the only thing... but that was centuries ago... and I don't know if it would still work...
Sladius: What am I saying? I really should go check on Sladius...
MountainGirlXD: on Sladius?
Sladius: Arius I mean... I'm so confused....
MountainGirlXD: Stay put
MountainGirlXD: Arm yourself with whatever is available and keep the doors locked. At least until we can figure out what Arius meant
MountainGirlXD: by higffdah
MountainGirlXD: a few more minutes, please
Sladius: okay but...
MountainGirlXD: what?
Sladius: I hear something outside!
MountainGirlXD: hide.l
MountainGirlXD: now!!
Sladius: I have a fireplace poker in hand, its the sharpest thing I could find
MountainGirlXD: do you have a fire right now?
Sladius: yes
MountainGirlXD: heat the plate until it's molten
MountainGirlXD: dip the poker in it!
Sladius: Something is hitting the door, I think its about to give!

MountainGirlXD: I'm serious Sladius,
MountainGirlXD: do it now!
MountainGirlXD: Be prepared to fight
Sladius: Wh1
MountainGirlXD: Aim for the hear
MountainGirlXD: heart
MountainGirlXD: Did you do it?
MountainGirlXD: Is the silver able to coat the poker?
MountainGirlXD: Sladius, are you there?
Sladius: What have I done?
MountainGirlXD: ?
MountainGirlXD: What happened?
Sladius: It's a .... dog or a I think I just killed a Lougarou...
Sladius: Oh no.....
MountainGirlXD: I'm glad you're safe
Sladius: Oh no.....
MountainGirlXD: What happened?
MountainGirlXD: what is it, Sladius
Sladius: It's a boy from class...
Sladius: It changed!
MountainGirlXD: Who?
MountainGirlXD: He shape-shifted into a Lougarou
MountainGirlXD: Who was he?
Sladius: Some kid named Emery... I don't know him that well but, he's dead...
MountainGirlXD: Don't let down your guard, there may be more.
Sladius: I've just killed someone!
MountainGirlXD: You just defended yourself.
MountainGirlXD: Nothing more.
MountainGirlXD: It was him or you
MountainGirlXD: You have done nothing wrong
MountainGirlXD: How did you kill it?
MountainGirlXD: Did you use the poker?
Sladius: yes...
Sladius: his left hand is missing... I didn't do that... and there's marks on his chest
MountainGirlXD: Take pictures.
MountainGirlXD: Can you?
MountainGirlXD: Then send them to me.
MountainGirlXD: What do the marks look like?
Sladius: Like claw marks, slash marks...
Sladius: I didn't mean to kill a boy!
MountainGirlXD: You killed a Lougarou, Sladius
MountainGirlXD: He was no longer himself
MountainGirlXD: You merely defended yourself
MountainGirlXD: Stay armed with the poker
MountainGirlXD: He had been used, Sladius
MountainGirlXD: I have a picture of the ritual that took his hand
MountainGirlXD: He was going to kill you
Sladius: I yelled out iigdah, it's a work to keep a Lougarou a bay... when you told me what Arius said I remembered it.
MountainGirlXD: What does it mean?
MountainGirlXD: You're not going to like what I have to tell you next
Sladius: banish, in a sense
Sladius: What?
MountainGirlXD: Look here: 09:02 PM http://static.flickr.com/116/312359790_8d141daa0d_o.jpg

MountainGirlXD: I think you need to decapitate him now with something silver
MountainGirlXD: or else he may still be a danger.
Sladius: WHAT?!

Sladius: Cut his head off?
MountainGirlXD: I know, do you think you can do that?
MountainGirlXD: If not, I don't know what to tell you except get somewhere safe
MountainGirlXD: He may still be a danger!
MountainGirlXD: Sladius?
Sladius: I don't know if I can do this...
MountainGirlXD: Yes you can.
Sladius: Oh Great One, please forgive what I am about to do...


**Editted to add the rest of the chat**
Quote:
MountainGirlXD: I know, do you think you can do that?
MountainGirlXD: If not, I don't know what to tell you except get somewhere safe
MountainGirlXD: He may still be a danger!
MountainGirlXD: Sladius?
Sladius: I don't know if I can do this...
MountainGirlXD: Yes you can.
Sladius: Oh Great One, please forgive what I am about to do...
Sladius: It's done.
MountainGirlXD: Did you look at the picture?
Sladius: It's the Dark Invokation, to draw down the Lougarou.
MountainGirlXD: You must follow it
MountainGirlXD: do what it says
Sladius: No, I mean, to turn.
MountainGirlXD: to turn into a Lougarou?
Sladius: Yes.
Sladius: Arius is here, and he's injured pretty bad. Emery threw him through a wall.
MountainGirlXD: How bad?
Sladius: He thinks he has broken some ribs.
MountainGirlXD: Has he been clawed?
Sladius: No.
MountainGirlXD: Ok, I'm out of my area of expertise here.
What does he suggest?
Sladius: Father Weston is our Medical Practitioner. He can help.
MountainGirlXD: Where is he?
Sladius: Arius and I are going to run over to see him. He's a stone's throw away. I'll bring the poker.
MountainGirlXD: Stay armed, Sladius and aware. I'm sorry, but you can no longer trust those who you might have before
MountainGirlXD: Remember you did what you had to do
MountainGirlXD: You have no guilt here
Sladius: Thanks MG, you saved my life.
MountainGirlXD: Blessings Abound, Sladius. Stay safe
MountainGirlXD: Do not forget to dispose of the Lougarou properly.
MountainGirlXD: Less he survive
Sladius: Okay.
Sladius signed off at 9:17:35 PM.

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well, although much of my chat with Sladius seems to be a cut and paste of what MountainGirl received, I will add it here anyway -- in case anyone cares to see it.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 10:31 pm
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AngBa
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To keep in form with the game, I hit Slad up after the 'commotion' was over:

Quote:
[20:12] AngryBanana1125: You did good, it was the right thing to do - stay strong
[20:12] sladius: Thanks..
[20:12] AngryBanana1125: You need to protect the others, we know what you've seen
[20:12] sladius: Okay.
[20:12] sladius: Arius is here, and he's injured pretty bad. Emery threw him through a wall.
[20:13] AngryBanana1125: Oh no... can you take care of him?
[20:13] sladius: He thinks he has broken some ribs.
[20:14] AngryBanana1125: do you have a doctor or medic that can help?
[20:14] sladius: Father Weston.
[20:14] AngryBanana1125: they need to be wrapped
[20:14] AngryBanana1125: ..... that worries me
[20:15] AngryBanana1125: You do what you feel is best - you know now that you are strong, protect yourself and the others...
[20:17] sladius: Okay. Thanks Ang Ba you saved my neck. I owe you.
[20:18] AngryBanana1125: No, you just need to keep the others safe - keep us informed, and let me know if you need anything
[20:18] sladius: Okay.


But here is my thinking on the chat from earlier....

The only connection we have so far is Aleister Crowley.... he has been associated with HITLER and JACK THE RIPPER, so based on the chat, and this is just a piece of my theory:


Quote:
AriusXI: From your research and our divinations, we have determined that 5 men throughout history, have had possession of the text, or access to the "imposter" versions, such as Necronomicon, and untitled copies.
AriusXI: Those 5 were mad, disturbed or just evil.
AngryBanana1125: Yes, I think some of us have figured that out
AriusXI: Adolph Hitler, and Dr. Roslyn D'Onston are 2.



Alestier Crowley is the tie to these two, and based on Tipsila's find that Enoch's myspace is Crowley - this is a piece - when we find the next 'link' (for lack of a better word) we will find the next page...

Working with:

Quote:
One will be born of Hatred, one of Pure Evil, one of Dark Method, One of Sinister Arts, and the last of Chaotic Charm.


I think we can safely establish that 'Hatred' is Hitler, 'Pure Evil' is Jack - so now we're looking for 'Dark Method' - in connection to Crowley - but there needs to be a common thread of documentation that links them all.

I also think that Slad's IM plays a big part, but I am going to research before I say more...

...Sorry about the lack of reference in this post, I do try to show where my research has came from RL is jumping in at the moment...
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Double posting only because this is seperate from the last one:

I had sent Nancy 2 emails back to back - the last one was telling her the initials on the paper were the initials of Jack's victims. She responded:
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You spammer you!!! Just kidding. Um, I've heard of Jack the Ripper, in fact I've seen that Johnny Depp movie about him (wish I could get my hands on some Absinthe!) and it was pretty cool. I would hate to think I'm related to Jack the Ripper, but they never found out who he was, right?
Anyways, I found a paper in the attic that says Lupeus II on it, don't know if its of any value. It's not in Latin or anything.


Nancy

[quote]

I added the bold, but we've found the second page - hopefully thx to Tips we'll have an image soon

ETA: uF wasn't working - sorry.
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AngBa wrote:


But here is my thinking on the chat from earlier....

The only connection we have so far is Aleister Crowley.... he has been associated with HITLER and JACK THE RIPPER, so based on the chat, and this is just a piece of my theory:

Alestier Crowley is the tie to these two, and based on Tipsila's find that Enoch's myspace is Crowley - this is a piece - when we find the next 'link' (for lack of a better word) we will find the next page...



Not to be snarky, but your theory? This was your theory:
Quote:
Ok, here's kinda my line of thinking (since I know I'm not alone in this)...

There are 5 pages and Jack had 5 victims. As Tips pointed out there is a definite connection with the 'piscis' find:

Quote:
'I found that by joining some of the sites together, you created two equilateral triangles; a sacred symbol which, in occult doctrine, Satan devised to be used in worship of him,' Edwards said. By joining the sites in a different way, a Christian cross was revealed.

After examining the position of the fifth and last victim, 25-year-old Marie Jeanette Kelly, Edwards realised that all the women were killed within a 500-yard radius and that, by joining the sites together, it was possible to create the Vesica Piscis, a fish-like symbol worshipped by the early Christians. By murdering his victims and leaving their bodies in that way, the killer intended a tribute to Satan.


...So Jack had 5 victims - Gatewood has now had 2 - both female found very close to each other, much like our infamous Serial Killer - there are 3 other known women/girls in Gatewood that we are aware of:

Lili
Isabelle
Diana

But we only have 2 pages (??? as I'm not sure that Nancy's is actually a page) - and now we need to wait for one of these 'poor girls' to die before we receive the 3rd?


Here was my reply:
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That's interesting spec as well. But how would that relate to this:

Quote:
: One will be born of Hatred, one of Pure Evil, one of Dark Method, One of Sinister Arts, and the last of Chaotic Charm.



If we follow the line of thinking that the girls are the one's related to the five pages, who was born of Hatred for the first page? Athena? If so, how? Seeing as how Nancy's step-father is a Stephenson, he could be "born of Pure Evil." Now, if the girls are the attributes listed, then Lili COULD be third or fourth. She is practicing the Dark Method/Sinister Art of shape-shifting that Father Enoch no longer teaches

More spec:
The first page came from clues referencing Hitler (hatred?) with a picture leading to the second, Jack the ripper. If we follow this line, we will be looking for another historical figure, and the second page will probably reference him/her. Who will be the dark method, Sinister Arts, and Chaotic Charm?


Had to call you on that one. I tried to keep it to PM's, but they don't seem to help.

I understand you are also alluding to the Aleister Crowley connection being "part" of your theory, but that was everyone's theory as soon as Tip made the connection. I'm really not being petty here, it just gets frustrating for someone else to word posts as if they were the one responsible for current thought.

I'll get off of my soapbox. Again, sorry for making this public.
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Lupeus II
Snarky! I love that word - it's fun to say out loud!

Finally bit the bullet and got yahoo chat. Nancy uploaded the picture to
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o200/nancy_rocks1142/LupeusII.jpg

Edit: To remove the picture which was WAY too big for the forum...

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Adrian Kampf: Phew, it worked
Nancy Stevenson: hey there. God I hate computers
Adrian Kampf: I love them! Just not sure about IM's
Nancy Stevenson: I hear ya. I finally figured out how to get the damn file somwhere, and you are so gunna hate me...
Nancy Stevenson: http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o200/nancy_rocks1142/LupeusII.jpg
Adrian Kampf: lol - not a problem, that's perfect. I had to bite the bullet and get IM anyway.
Adrian Kampf: Wow. Yes, that is most definitely it.
Nancy Stevenson: I don't blame ya. Some asshole has been knocking at my door and I keep turning the music up. He doesn't get the point.
Nancy Stevenson: Damn, its freaking midnight! Some people.
Adrian Kampf: Whoa ---- that's going to worry me all night. Do you have any friends you can call to come over? I've been worried about your safety since we found you, and especially after what happened to your house.
Nancy Stevenson: Yeah, Claire's with me.
Adrian Kampf: Ahh good! Now I won't worry as much. If someone keeps knocking, or if you hear anything - don't hesitate at all to call the cops (as much as I hate cops).
Nancy Stevenson (12/15/2006 10:09:29 PM): Yeah me too. The cops have been patroling the neighborhood since the break in, so I shopuld be alright.
Nancy Stevenson (12/15/2006 10:12:34 PM): anyhoo, I better get goin as not to be rude to my guest!
Nancy Stevenson (12/15/2006 10:12:44 PM): IM me anytime tho!
Adrian Kampf (12/15/2006 10:13:13 PM): Ah sorry - too many windows! Thank you, I'll talk to you soon - have a great night!
Nancy Stevenson (12/15/2006 10:13:23 PM): U 2!

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Mountain Girl wrote:
AngBa wrote:


But here is my thinking on the chat from earlier....

The only connection we have so far is Aleister Crowley.... he has been associated with HITLER and JACK THE RIPPER, so based on the chat, and this is just a piece of my theory:

Alestier Crowley is the tie to these two, and based on Tipsila's find that Enoch's myspace is Crowley - this is a piece - when we find the next 'link' (for lack of a better word) we will find the next page...



Not to be snarky, but your theory? This was your theory:
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Ok, here's kinda my line of thinking (since I know I'm not alone in this)...

There are 5 pages and Jack had 5 victims. As Tips pointed out there is a definite connection with the 'piscis' find:

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'I found that by joining some of the sites together, you created two equilateral triangles; a sacred symbol which, in occult doctrine, Satan devised to be used in worship of him,' Edwards said. By joining the sites in a different way, a Christian cross was revealed.

After examining the position of the fifth and last victim, 25-year-old Marie Jeanette Kelly, Edwards realised that all the women were killed within a 500-yard radius and that, by joining the sites together, it was possible to create the Vesica Piscis, a fish-like symbol worshipped by the early Christians. By murdering his victims and leaving their bodies in that way, the killer intended a tribute to Satan.


...So Jack had 5 victims - Gatewood has now had 2 - both female found very close to each other, much like our infamous Serial Killer - there are 3 other known women/girls in Gatewood that we are aware of:

Lili
Isabelle
Diana

But we only have 2 pages (??? as I'm not sure that Nancy's is actually a page) - and now we need to wait for one of these 'poor girls' to die before we receive the 3rd?


Here was my reply:
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That's interesting spec as well. But how would that relate to this:

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: One will be born of Hatred, one of Pure Evil, one of Dark Method, One of Sinister Arts, and the last of Chaotic Charm.



If we follow the line of thinking that the girls are the one's related to the five pages, who was born of Hatred for the first page? Athena? If so, how? Seeing as how Nancy's step-father is a Stephenson, he could be "born of Pure Evil." Now, if the girls are the attributes listed, then Lili COULD be third or fourth. She is practicing the Dark Method/Sinister Art of shape-shifting that Father Enoch no longer teaches

More spec:
The first page came from clues referencing Hitler (hatred?) with a picture leading to the second, Jack the ripper. If we follow this line, we will be looking for another historical figure, and the second page will probably reference him/her. Who will be the dark method, Sinister Arts, and Chaotic Charm?


Had to call you on that one. I tried to keep it to PM's, but they don't seem to help.

I understand you are also alluding to the Aleister Crowley connection being "part" of your theory, but that was everyone's theory as soon as Tip made the connection. I'm really not being petty here, it just gets frustrating for someone else to word posts as if they were the one responsible for current thought.

I'll get off of my soapbox. Again, sorry for making this public.


Was there really a need to post this kind of petty sniping in the game thread? No, there wasn't. If you really felt the need to say something to this person then why not just send them a private message? Because all you have done with your inflammatory post is try to make yourself look superior while belittling another player. Yes, that's right.....another player. This is a game after all. Why do you feel the need to be so condescending and adolescent to someone over a game?!? I thought the objective of these things was to have some fun & figure stuff out, not try and play one-upsmanship.

You say at the end of your post that you're "sorry for making this public" but I have to think that's just lip service. If you had actually been sorry then instead of adding an apology to the tail of your public post you would have just sent it as a private message instead.

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I apologize again, but you aren't aware of the circumstances. This has tried to be handled in private. There are reasons. I was not inflammatory, your statement was.

I hate this kind of crap, but I have done everything I could for weeks now. The only thing left was to call this person on the continuing behaviors. I am not the only person this is effecting. I will not allow someone to continually run over me without speaking out.

Sorry all.
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Mountain Girl wrote:
I apologize again, but you aren't aware of the circumstances. This has tried to be handled in private. There are reasons. I was not inflammatory, your statement was.

I hate this kind of crap, but I have done everything I could for weeks now. The only thing left was to call this person on the continuing behaviors. I am not the only person this is effectin. I will not allow someone to continually run over me without speaking out.

Sorry all.



Actually I am aware of the circumstances.

How exactly are you being "continually run over"?? From what I've seen there have been puzzles solved & theories put forth by lots of people. Why do you have to turn it into a "my side against the other side" situation? Do you & "your side" have to be the ones to solve every puzzle, make every connection and get all the credit? It's a game fer-the-love-of-pete. Why do you feel the need to turn this into an ego thing? Maybe that's not what you intended it to be but that's what it looks like from where I'm sitting.....

Can we just have fun, solve some s#%t & win one for the good guys? Is that too much to ask? Bang Head

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