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[PUZZLE] [SOLVED] [Jan 13] Box 2 - Magic Happens
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Shad0
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 		Re: [PUZZLE] [Jan 13] Box 2 - Magic Happens
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Okay, here's how we were supposed to get the answer (I'd use spoiler tags, but you'd see the stuff inside the code tags anyway, so there isn't much point):

Convert BLACKSTONE back into the box cipher, like so:

Code:
                           X
XXXX XXX XXXX      XXX  XX X      X XX
X        X  X XXXX X     X X XXXX X  X X
XX       XXXX X    XX  XXX X X  X XXXX XXXX

Then put BLACK over STONE, like so:

Code:
XXXX XXX XXXX      XXX
X        X  X XXXX X
XX       XXXX X    XX
      X
  XX  X       X XX
   X  X  XXXX X  X X
XXXX  X  X  X XXXX XXXX

And then close up the gaps, like so:

Code:
XXXX XXX XXXX XXXX XXX
X     X  X  X X    X
XXXX  X  XXXX X XX XX
   X  X  XXXX X  X X
XXXX  X  X  X XXXX XXXX

Ta-da!
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 		Wow... I likey the Blackstone puzzle.
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 		We still don't have what I would call a satisfying answer for Postcards. I'm going to keep working on that one.

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Postcards
SuperRob - isn't the solve "what magicians are famous for disappearing these things" -- (hence the disappearing images when we waved our magic cursor (wand) over them). Hence Statue of Liberty = Copperfield etc etc and then how we stack the names comes from one of the smoke signal clues (kona identified it in an earlier post), which gives us COINS and another famous magician who was good with coins.
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 		 Postcards
Postcards has changed - No Train !

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 		Re: Postcards
kfasheldon wrote:
Postcards has changed - No Train !


Now it's a girl. Wouldn't that be Chriss Angel?

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 		Re: Postcards
redsquareblack wrote:
kfasheldon wrote:
Postcards has changed - No Train !


Now it's a girl. Wouldn't that be Chriss Angel?


It would have to follow the pattern, though. Many have made girls disappear. Lance Burton, for example. But to fit in with COINS, the name would have to start with an "N".
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 		Re: [PUZZLE] [Jan 13] Box 2 - Magic Happens
Rabbit Trail
RedHatty wrote:
the last city on the trail in rabbit trail is Presto

Following the directions given in the skywriting hint from Phoenix makes #6 (Presto) the last stop on the trail.
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 		Is that the arrows clue? I wonder how the solver got it without that clue.
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Postcards
aliendial wrote:
SuperRob - isn't the solve "what magicians are famous for disappearing these things" -- (hence the disappearing images when we waved our magic cursor (wand) over them). Hence Statue of Liberty = Copperfield etc etc and then how we stack the names comes from one of the smoke signal clues (kona identified it in an earlier post), which gives us COINS and another famous magician who was good with coins.


Right, and I contend that we may have gotten lucky. I don't think the final clue is supposed to be "COINS" ... it seems sloppy that there is only one visible word vertically, and that it might have just been happenchance that we got an answer from that (much like some of the other puzzles).

I'm not saying this is bad, but for some reason, this particular puzzle intrigues me.

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 		Re: [PUZZLE] [SOLVED] [Jan 13] Box 2 - Magic Happens
Postcards
SuperRob wrote:
it seems sloppy that there is only one visible word vertically

Why? Isn't it a good thing that lining up the names gives only one recognizable word? And that it occurs on the first line of lined-up letters?

Can you think of another reason that the clue would have been five lines that exactly matched the number of letters in the last names of the magicians (well, at least four of 'em, anyway), and would have staggered them in a particular fashion -- other than to get certain letters to line up with each other?

Also, the fact that the train -- the only part of the puzzle we couldn't solve properly -- has now changed to something else seems to indicate to me that we did approach the solve correctly, and that the PMs would prefer that everyone else in the world be able to solve it fully without making the same intuitive leap we had to make.

(If I were inclined to criticize anything, it would be that (a) there are many, many magicians known for vanishing coins, rather than one in particular, and (b) the clues were all last names only, but the answer was a full name.)

SuperRob wrote:
it might have just been happenchance that we got an answer from that (much like some of the other puzzles).

Haven't we figured out the "proper" way to solve all of the other puzzles now, or am I forgetting something?
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 		rabbit hole puzzle
the web page that the rabbithole puzzle goes to says "This collection is no longer available. It may have been deleted by the author." Did it say that for everyone else? or is there meant to be a start point?
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 		It was so hammered yesterday I never managed to get in. Maybe still hammered as people check out the trail they couldn't see yesterday?
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 		I am pretty sure that is part of the whole "Things in my world tend to disapear" concept. Confused
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 		Re: [PUZZLE] [SOLVED] [Jan 13] Box 2 - Magic Happens
Postcards
Shad0 wrote:
Why? Isn't it a good thing that lining up the names gives only one recognizable word? And that it occurs on the first line of lined-up letters?


Honestly, no. Plus, I've read at least one report that you can get COINS as well as two other five word answers on the other vertical lines, but I can't find that information any more, nor do I know what names he used to get there. That's my sole contention for saying that I don't beleive we solved it properly. If you're satisfied, I'm certainly not suggesting you need to work on it any further. I, however, am going to noodle it over some more.

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