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[tim7168]

Maybe you're supposed to apply the method TO the answer as well...?

[WolfHawk]

[Cross_]

There are two parts to Bacon's scheme. First is a binary encoding of letters into 5-character sequences, e.g. the letter S is encoded as BAAAB.
The second part is basically steganography, i.e. hiding your encoded message in plain sight: take some arbitrary text such as a newspaper article, now write that text with two different fonts where one font type corresponds to the A code and the other type corresponds to a B. Let's say I want to send you "SOS", which in Baconian code is BAAAB-ABBAB-BAAAB. Now I take the text "alice in wonderland" and hide my code by using uppercase characters to signify a B and lowercase for A. This turns it into: "AlicE iN WoNDerlAnd" (just discard the remaining two letters).

[petunia]

[WolfHawk]

[Jediwannabe]

If we are looking for a movie title answer, could it be a movie that Melvin Geist has starred in?

[Olly]

[tim7168]

I really wish I could stop thinking about this, I have an essay deadline!!

Was wondering if the viginere key GGO to get Decipher might be a clue to the title we are looking for. I can't think of anything though! I still think it's pretty odd that we would still be left with a coded word after deciphering, I think that perhaps it's trying to draw our attention to something else but again I'm not very good at this!

Also thinking about the translation of latin, moving pictures/movie, maybe we're being referred to some other form of moving picture like the video we received or Eva's webcam. Tried a few answers along these lines (coreoutput etc.) but no luck so far.

[Jediwannabe]

I wouldn't put too much stock in the GGO key, considering that it was reverse engineered because someone EXPECTED the word Decipher to be the answer.

In truth, we could pick any word with the same number of letters and reverse engineer a key for it. I am sceptical that either Decipher or GGO are significant.

[jwiv]

[Interaction] No help from Eva

[ALISDAIRPARK]

re Jediwannabe's post, as the "someone" who came up with the GGO I would also say I'm doubtful about it's relevance. (EDIT: However decipher is the logical fit in that sequence)

However I would dispute the second paragraph. You can get other words to fit through reverse engineering, however there will be few that have a repeating 3 letter key, I think.

It is equally possible that the reason that word does not fit is through an error somewhere, or that the key for that word is RKB (KEY + GGO).

EDIT: just double checked the above, the correct key to change that line to decipher is YKE, so I suspect there was an error when it was coded. I think we can officially ignore anything on this bit of code and focus on what the movie answer is.

[RothkoWoofed]

[kidafrika]

Moving Images

[RothkoWoofed]

Got it! I think...

niastfov became JKQOV VKX because it was decyphered with 'EYK' . 'KEY' became 'EYK' because of the spaces, that were not meant to be included, jumbling the keyword.

Mystery Solved!!


EDIT: well... mystery not completely solved! trying to decrypt
"wirrsbwmpbspdvyxwabmzoniastfovdvyxwjkxckrqgip" (no spaces) yields the same "JKQOV VKX". but decrypting niastfov seperatelly with 'key' works fine. Sooo... it's not the spaces that are doing it! Anyhow somehow or another it all works fine. (Ie. decrypting each phrase seperately.) Hope that all made some kinda sense!

[yanka]

Re: Moving Images