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[NEW|SPEC] Steorn.net claims Infinite Energy, ARG? Hoax?
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nightswatch
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why i love unforums:

-I randomly stumble upon steorn, check out steorn.com, am very weirded out by it.
- after checking wikipedia briefly, I search unF and of course find a 20 page thread filled with amazing spec and paranoia that manages to both convince me and then dissuade me completely from believing that steorn is something more than what it appears at face value to be. It also forces me to stay up until 5 am to read the whole bloody thing when I have class on the morrow Confused

I did also get around to watching the video on their site, and it definitely appears that it is legit, and as a result I am certainly still interested in seeing what will come of it. I gave a few of the recently bumped threads a glance over at their forums as well, though it rivaled the IMDB boards for sheer banality (although I found it rather humorous when one of the slightly more...opinionated frequenters "babcat" appeared in the video of the forum party and looked *EXACTLY* like I pictured him to Wink ). Bumping THIS particular thread seems pretty useless at this point as well, but if nothing else, consider it my expression of admiration toward all you people.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 6:05 am
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kenji
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 		anything still going on with this?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 7:21 am
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 		Steorn Claims
The Steorn hoax is slowly fading into the sunset. After a flurry of media attention, the only active Steorn site is the company forums. Summarising what's happened (or mostly what hasn't happened).

* The Steorn over-unity device has still not been shown publicly. There has been no independent confirmation of its existence.

* Steorn is still 2 years in arrears in filing required financial statements, despite the CEO Sean McCarthy stating on two occasions (August 2006, January 2007) that filing was imminent.

* A Jury of 12 scientists is apparently working on validating the Steorn technology. There is only Steorn's word that the jury exists. Steorn states that the jury validation is at least six months away and probably longer.

* The CEO Sean McCarthy can bullshit his way with impressive technical jargon, but when challenged by a knowledgeable physicist, his technical shallowness is obvious. Technical threads that show his blarney disappear from the Steorn forums.

* In summary, there is zero concrete evidence supporting Steorn's claims. Steorn relies on Sean McCarthy's charisma to dupe the naive and gullible.

The Steorn perpetual motion myth has the characteristics of a 'long con'. Steorn has relied solely on private investors for funding. This is likely continuing.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 11:21 am
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Jippy
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 		Steorn updates
In response to the last poster, steorn has recently updated their website to include financial statements.

They have released photos of the unit and moved into the next phase of the development as they had forecast.

Im a skeptic like most regarding steorn, but I do believe that science should be progressive and all laws have previously been broken.

Recent advances in physics have moved closer towards supporting steorns claim, its the harnessing of the energy that is being suggested as the issue.

The power of collusion and energy interests cannot be underestimated, and there is an abundance of evidence to suggest measures have been taken to supress the advancement of this technology since tesla.

the implications are profound and so far reaching.

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Rolerbe
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 		Re: Steorn updates
Jippy wrote:
Recent advances in physics have moved closer towards supporting steorns claim, its the harnessing of the energy that is being suggested as the issue.


Recent advances that allow for perpetual motion machines? Can you specify what advances you're taling about?

I'm not being sarcastic, I think there is some (small) possibility that they are extracting energy from the underlying Earth's magnetic field, or something similar. Which would mean that they could never scale up to any significant power density level, but I'm not saying the whole thing's a complete impossibility without being open to the facts. So, if there actually really is some new physics out there that bears on this question, even obliquely, I'd like to read up on it.
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C/CMSgt. Snyder
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 		So all in all, do you think Steorn is a total joke?
Or the real deal?

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Rolerbe
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 		You're asking my personal, net opinion, given the facts we been able to examine so far?

I wouldn't bet a nickel on them.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:21 pm
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C/CMSgt. Snyder wrote:
So all in all, do you think Steorn is a total joke?
Or the real deal?

Does it have to be either-or? I don't think they are a total joke, and I don't think they are deliberately scamming anyone. I don't think their machine is the "real deal" the way they glorify it, but I think they really did build a machne that does *something*. I don't think they are creating energy out of nothing -- they just haven't figured out yet where the energy is coming from, or if indeed they measured it correctly. The issue really is their (lack of) understanding of the science involved.

They themselves say that they have no idea why their machine (seems to) violate basic laws of known science. When you boil all this down, they admit that they've made a machine and measured its output, and they don't understand the results. They have asked more knowledgeable people to explain it to them. We await the verdict.

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 		Take a big magnet and stick it on your fridge.

Take another big magnet, put it in your hand and lean on the fridge magnet with a reverse polarity so the fridge magnet pushes you away from the magnet in your hand.

You can lean on that fridge magnet's power forever.

Where does the energy come from?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:03 pm
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Henchman
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 		Seems like this subject just won't die. I lost interest in this, but now it seems they are at it again. I think I am inclined to agree with the most recent posters: This probably isn't a a game for us to play. Oh well. The website graphics have changed again, and while I still think its too flashy for its own good, there isn't anything obvious to suggest its an ARG. Steorn has apparently bought another company by the name of Orbo and is going to market their technology under this name... Orbo would be an awful name for such a potentially important technology. Rolling Eyes

Looking through their site again, I get the impression that they are trying really, really hard to appear legitimate (trying too hard?): photos of parties with forum folks, maps to their office, personal info about staff, and now financial information online. When have you ever seen financial info on a company website like that? Like so many other things, it seems not quite right. And like Tundrabog said, the editing of the forums is not inspiring any confidence in me. If they delete threads that say things they don't like, how can we trust anything that comes out of their panel of experts? Doing the whole thing behind closed doors like this provides plenty of opportunity to present the results in any way they want.

In my opinion, they are bogus and trying to generate interest so that they can eventually make some money by selling their company.

But of course, I will check in on them every few months, just because..

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:58 pm
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Slyfingers
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 		Ummm...

From this page

Quote:
Under the terms of a modified general public licence and for a nominal fee, Steorn's intellectual property will be made available concurrently to all interested parties, from individual enthusiasts to larger research organisations.


This sums it up for me. "available concurrently"=grab as much money as we can before the suckers customers get a chance to independently verify.

'Nuff said.
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tomdennen wrote:
Take a big magnet and stick it on your fridge.

Take another big magnet, put it in your hand and lean on the fridge magnet with a reverse polarity so the fridge magnet pushes you away from the magnet in your hand.

You can lean on that fridge magnet's power forever.

Where does the energy come from?


Very funny. (Since neither your hand nor the magnet is moving, no work is being done, and hence no energy is required.)

Perpetual motion always seems to attract people with... interesting ideas. (Magnets are always a popular choice for people who want to achieve perpetual motion, too...)
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 		 Steorn ARG Proof?
Hey I've just noticed all this Steorn buzz about it being a Halo 3 ARG and I must admit I was sitting on the fence quite a bit.

But a few things are really pointing towards it being and ARG indeed, such as;

Reading peoples discussions and research on the site it seems clear that some things are just not adding up to make this company appear 100% legit.

Teamxbox.com (I think that's the correct address Razz) Posted up a news bulletin about Steorn's announcement with no mention of it possibly being an ARG. Now why would a Xbox site post this information as it has nothing to do with xbox?

Also I noticed this on the site, not sure if anyone else has noticed this on the developers page - http://www.steorn.com/orbo/developers/
The circuit board images has many circles on it, but one seems to have a 3 inside of it.
I put this together to make it real obvious Smile
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h137/obsolution/steorn_clue.jpg

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Spankit
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 		New video on the Steorn validation page.

Apparently they're going to have public demonstrations of the technology in July in London. I'm going to be in Houston around that time, starting my career in the oil and gas industry. Anyone want to stop by the demonstrations and let me know if this is a hoax? If it isn't, I need to start looking for a new job.
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 		Re: Steorn ARG Proof?
Obsolution wrote:
Hey I've just noticed all this Steorn buzz about it being a Halo 3 ARG and I must admit I was sitting on the fence quite a bit.

But a few things are really pointing towards it being and ARG indeed, such as


I don't think this is an ARG, and if it is there is going to be a lot of pissed off people. Too many to make it good advertising I think.
If it is Halo 3 marketing, that's reason enough for me not to buy the game even though I'm looking forward to it.
Alternate forms of energy are just too important an issue today to trivialize like that.

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