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[UPDATE] Dina Weblog [Nov 15]
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HaZy
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 		There is a very similar butterfly found in Britain called The gatekeeper (Pyronia tithonus) -family Satyridae it would be the female because it has less markings and has bigger wings. Thanks to my Observer book of butterflies that I haven't opened for years Laughing


The pic in my book is very similar but a lot of the pics I've seen on google show the male which is more patterned. the book says that "colour changes can occur and the orange colour in both sexes, may be replaced by yellow or even white, but such aberrations are very local and rare."

The dots can be missing too.

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HaZy wrote:
There is a very similar butterfly found in Britain called The gatekeeper (Pyronia tithonus) -family Satyridae it would be the female because it has less markings and has bigger wings. Thanks to my Observer book of butterflies that I haven't opened for years Laughing


It's similar, but not the same.

Here's an enhanced picture of Dina's butterfly (ckeck out those antannea!?!)
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HaZy
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 		Sorry bakntime I was editing when u posted I realise that most of pics on net look different but the one in book looks more similar it shows male and female wings and explains abt markings that are not always there. Although you are probably right it is not the same hard to tell exactly. I will keep looking for better pic I can upload or link to. Shame I have no scanner.

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 		The butterfly is a fake and therefore, I think, knowing what species it is will not get us answers.
I think the butterfly is important as to what it represents.

But I have known to be wrong...very wrong Laughing

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HaZy wrote:
Sorry bakntime I was editing when u posted I realise that most of pics on net look different but the one in book looks more similar it shows male and female wings and explains abt markings that are not always there. Although you are probably right it is not the same hard to tell exactly. I will keep looking for better pic I can upload or link to. Shame I have no scanner.


Hey, it's my bad... I just realized that it's a FAKE BUTTERFLY... that it's just a decoration. That's how slow I am.

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 		I might as well post the butterfly symbolism here, too:


Butterfly symbolism: http://kc.mybravenet.com/bflysym.html

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There is a Native American legend that says, " If you have a secret wish, capture a butterfly and whisper your wish to it. Since butterflies cannot speak, your secret is ever safe in their keeping. Release the butterfly, and it will carry your wish to the Great Spirit, who alone knows the thoughts of butterflies. By setting the butterfly free, you are helping to restore the balance of nature, and your wish will surely be granted."

They are a symbol of change, joy, and color. (There is also an association of Faerie folklore with butterflies.) Their flight appears as dancing, and a reminder not to take things so seriously. They have a sense of lightness and joy. They are reminders to get up and move, for if you can move you can dance, and dance brings joy.

The butterfly is a powerful symbol for transformation. It leaves the safety of the cocoon in it's new form. This is an excellent image for anyone contemplating, or in the midst of a major change. A butterfly is a strong symbol of metamorphosis, with distinct stages. The butterfly is a reminder to make changes when the opportunity arises. Change and transformation are inevitable for us all, but it does not have to be traumatic.Butterfly symbolism is also closely tied to the idea of spirits and souls. It has been used in many religions and cultures. Psyche is the Greek word for both soul and butterfly. The belief was that butterflies were human souls searching for a new reincarnation, which gave the creature uncanny and sometimes ominous connotations. This symbolism was also used in early Christianity as a symbol of the soul. Celts thought that women became pregnant by swallowing butterfly souls. These butterfly-souls flew about seeking a new mother. Other cultures believed that spirits of the dead took the form of white butterflies. In northern Europe to see one flying at night was a warning of death, and some said that the soul-butterfly's ability to leave the body in sleep accounts for dreams.

The Chinese believed a jade butterfly suggested a wedding of souls, making it an appropriate gift for the groom to give to his bride.


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 		So, should we read into the fact then that the butterfly is a fake, and associate it with Dina, and, potentially, Ethan?
And, to what extent should we associate it with the butterfly on Wongmo's site - Wongmo is fake, and yet the butterfly is real; an interesting dichotomy there. I wonder if the PM's intended that? Probably!
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HaZy
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bakntime wrote:
Hey, it's my bad... I just realized that it's a FAKE BUTTERFLY... that it's just a decoration. That's how slow I am.



:Oops: hehe I just thought it was a blurry pic then I read this bit in the blog.

I was in the midst of packing things for this weekend trip, and I caught sight of the butterfly hanging on its little hook on the door. Rolling Eyes

I was getting bored with butterflies anyway Smile

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MikeB
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 		This is probably just a "red-herring" but...
I'm not an experienced ARG player so I am probably barking up the wrong tree, but when I read "Dina's" post this line really struck me as being a hint of some kind:

"You're mostly likely looking at a puzzle missing a few pieces. "

Is there something "missing" from the picture posted? It looks like there is some paint missing on what I think is a deadbolt lock and (maybe a little too obvious) the bottom part of the door is missing from the picture. Also the door seems to be missing a proper door knob... those are just three locks in the pic, right?

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 		Interesting spec, MikeB, I hadn't noticed the missing doorknob before you pointed it out. Hmmm...

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King Mob
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 		[extreme spec]
Looking at this door more and more I can't help starting to think about the relation it might have to the 'back doors' mentioned by Seraph in Reloaded.
[extreme spec over]

As far as MikeB's spec goes, if there is no doorknob, then potentially Dina can't get out; and if we follow the theory that the two butterflies are linked (Dina's and Wongmo's); and keep in mind that Dina has rolled back on doing her Wongmo/Leiphe stuff, I wonder if she's beginning to realise that she's trapped/made claustrophic in some way...
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 		Actually, I've seen a door like that before. My old girlfriend's grandma had a front door like that. It had no "door knob" but instead just a lock that you turned to open the door. The door in the picture looks like that same type. All you do is turn the lock and kinda hold on to it to open the door.

I don't want to shoot down any ideas of something missing because it sounds good, but I thought I'd just throw my little bit of knowledge in...

(Oh, by the way, forget that I mentioned an "old girlfriend". I don't want the wifey to get mad!! Wink Laughing )
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amiantos
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Primal wrote:
Actually, I've seen a door like that before. My old girlfriend's grandma had a front door like that.


Yeah, lack of a doorknob probably doesn't mean much. I've always found doorknobs to be useless on doors with keys anyway... If you're opening a door to go inside, you usually push on it with the key turned (if turning the key will turn the door knob as well) and if you're opening a door from the inside, you can just pull on the key you probably leave in the lock when you lock the door anyway after you turn it.

A world without doorknobs would be a better place, indeed!

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