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Schnaufi
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FINAL PUSH
The final puzzle sequence to the meta puzzle solve

Hi Very Happy

The last one is solved and we get

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
6B617261


Any ideas how to go on or what to do with it?

Tobi

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FINAL puzzle is to find Loki's real name, and this is what irc has been playing with:

In the final video after solving today's puzzles Loki told us about /lokiv -- this page makes it clear we are looking for all of Loki's actual names rather than her anagram.

earlier solve: LORELEY/LORELEI (in the language of the region where the murmuring rocks are found it is called/spelled Loreley; in english we would probably use Lorelei, don't know which is right).

From /collection plate we had figured out yesterday the shield was the symbol of: ODESSA (credit - I'm pretty sure - Scrooball in irc)

After getting all the puzzles today /more_answers had a multi-layer word find puzzle, which yielded hex (see above) which when translated into ascii gives us: KARA

So Loreley Odessa Kara? (or Lorelei?) This is all spec, gang. Make your own decisions.

Then at the end of the video this flashed: /roamingroaming, which sends you on a trip for the last of Loki's names: start from a "mystery spot" and follow the directions out and back, and we assume we are looking for a place that starts with "I" . UPDATE: Page has been reviSed to say "Mystery Spot, CA" (Many assume mystery spot means the Fremont Studio in Seattle where the secret party was held, but others are suggesting other starting points like the mystery spot in California or AMD HQ; another thought is based on AND WHAT TO DO ABOUT the letters "TANLI" under Loki's picture on this page - does it anagram to "Latin"? Does it mean a town in China is the mystery spot? Aaaaaahhh!). Here's the direction sequence from Loki's glasses/statements in the videos: R U R D L D L D (challenge: RIGHT, time clue UP, time solution: RIGHT, magic solution: DOWN, memories solution: LEFT, people clue: DOWN, people solution: LEFT, LokiV clue: DOWN)

If it's a state, we've probably got Illinois and Indiana covered. If it's a town, yikes. Good luck!


Oh and I take credit for none of this, although I did solve the word puzzle myself too. This is collected from all the great players in irc. Remind me if you're an original solver (remember I was in irc too, don't mess with me), and I'll add your name here.
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Don't ask how or why....But I think you'll find the "I" name
in the following list...Just a real good suspicion (Check against Latin names)

From the SG>Technology girls names list...Lorelei, Odessa, Kara also are listed there.

Is Minae Noji an SG Tech Girl? Ahhh, it won't allow the bmp extension.

Here is the SG Tech link, use the "select a girl" dropdown list scroll to the I's. Just please don't blame me for where the search for Lorelei Odessa Kara took me.

http://suicidegirls.com/technology/

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grains

www.istartedsomething.com

any connection?

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I think it's coincidental, but there is an Iggy SG.

Which, like an horoscope, can be used to support my Ignatius hypothesis.

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Re: grains

~NML wrote:
www.istartedsomething.com

any connection?


That's one of the bloggers who got a AMD Laptop w/ Ultimate Vista and a puzzle box last month.
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Lots of guesses going in today - is the mystery spot for /roamingroaming the Fremont Studios in Seattle? Is it that famous mystery spot in California that has its own website? Is it Odessa (Texas or Ukraine)? Is it the Bellagio? We have no idea - it may be none of these. You takes your chances here.
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Sry Aliendial...
I didn't start the thread...Just contributed to it

Since you locked the other one after asking me a question, then pointed here, I'll answer it here;

I had yet to have seen the "more_answers" page when I posted that on the other thread, having accepted the answer ascii & Kara...I Have changed it to; Lorelei, Odessa, Kara, ? (Begins w/ an "I" for sure). Sure is a strange thing that "mystery spot" (I'm voting the old AT&T bldg. currently in my run down of the 9 step "I- name treasure hunt", but there are many locations that could be considered a mystery spot in this game, from point A to point Z). Just really glad that that physical presence isn't required. That saves a few from giving up right away.

One more note...People here must have tried answers so far, but nobody has reported any in the thread....Once you submit, you can report it as only the first correct answer wins anyway. Let's all contribute. Or is that an only IRC option? Pick your poison below; Latin Female Baby Names and their meanings, the list is pretty short...I took Ivory (keeping w/ the 7 Chinese Brothers "elephant" lead of course as she just "loves that story"), and her hiding in the dresser drawer, rolling in the fireplace ashes, and climbing in the washing machine). Lorelei, Odessa, Kara, Ivory

Ierne Female Latin From Ireland.
Ignatia Female Latin Ardent, fiery. Feminine form of Ignatius.
Ilaria female Latin one who is merry
Imogen Female Celtic/Latin Celtic: A girl or maiden. Latin: The image of her mother.
Imogen Female Celtic/Latin Celtic: A girl or maiden. Latin: The image of her mother.
Imogene female Latin image
Imperia Female Latin Imperious, the imperial one.
Innocentia Female Latin Innocent.
Ireta Female Latin Angry enraged.
Irma Female Latin/Teutonic Latin: Noble. Teutonic: Whole, strong.
Isola Female Latin Isolated. A loner.
Ivory Female Latin From the tusks of an elephant.

That was a dead lead, but I had to submit something before actually running all the "Mystery Spots" down as there were many possibilities. the elephant lead from 7 Chinese Brothers & ivory soap ideas could of fit.
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1 down using Live Search Maps on the Map Line feature (nasty to use over a 14,893.63- half way around the world and back- mile journey...From the Party site in Seattle, WA to Europe and back to the middle of nowhere Nebraska (Alliance Municipal Airport in Alliance, Nebraska to be exact). Too many possible "Mystery Spots" to try them all over the 4 puzzles and all the meta leads over the last few weeks. 5th try see the bottom of this post edit....
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Doublecross;

Yes you can do it though it is rather difficult w/ Live Search...Use Maps. Start w/ the address of the "Mystery Spot" (guessing what that really is, is the actual hard part)...I used 155 N. 35th. Street, Seattle Washington which is the actual street address of Freemont Studios and set a pushpin then chose "Draw a trail on the map" in blue (for each direction of the spectacles key I used N=up, S=down, E=right, W=left. The first wayward point was a R turn heading east (drew right for 5874.61 miles and left clicked to set the spot, (but the mileage will continue up...so I brought up the windows calculator, added 5874.61(first waypoint)+1049.62(second waypoint)=6924.23 then turned North and drew to 6924.23 miles...Continue on this way (add the next mileage waypoint miles then make the correct turn), and you will end up in Alliance, Nebraska. I always moved in to get the mileage just right, but you must readjust the waypoint. Though I could use the calculator don't click on the actual map to do anything but the waypoints.....Use the map edge to center (go past the waypoints then juggle back to the correct mileage point and left click and very important...stay at right angles as all turns are critical 90 degree turns).
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Someone (cousinIT), from Neowin probably already solved it...Lorelei, Odessa, Kara, Inari. For his sake I hope he entered the names correctly as I think I did.
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Leaving the "Mystery Spot" of TanLi on Mainland China (birthplace of the 7 Chinese Brothers), the directions do get you to an "Inari" Shrine in Japan (Ok, to within a quarter of a mile of 1)....And the wiki for Inari points out that Inari, a god of Japanese Folklore (the one thing not mentioned in the 4 loki Video by Loki #4 was Folklore and the other 3 college majors were), that is related/associated to guess who...you have it....Kitsuni. I tried 7 different ways including the TANLI Waypoint off Libya and Sewanee, TN & got absolutely nowhere, but this 1 worked out....Then the wiki pointing out the relationship to Kitsuni iced the cake for me! Isis could have worked if I could actually get to Giza like others say they did. Isis is everywhere in Giza...Just not physically.
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FWIW I think it is one name for each of the four Lokis. The starting point for each is the directory given at the end of the 'round complete' video, thus each of the four has a single name, the initials of which spell LOKI.

on_the_run -> contact me -> Lorelei/y trail
collectionplate -> white boxes -> Odessa shield
more_answers -> complete the puzzles -> Kara wordsearch
roamingroaming -> distances and glasses clues -> I? trail

Incidentally, I've been using Google Earth to plot the map for the 'roamingroaming' fourth stage, but it is (or I am) not that accurate - doing all eight steps individually arrives about 100 miles east of doing it in two combined steps (1582.89 miles east and 304.48 miles south). Are there any better methods out there? Microsoft's own site, which one might have expected to use, doesn't seem to do this sort of thing.

Finally, I do not agree that this last name is anything to do with physics. We are told that her four majors are physics, stage arts, history and folklore. Surely those correspond to the four puzzle boxes, in that order. Time passing = physics, magic happening = stage arts, memories fading = history and people disappearing = folklore. The meta trails from each box did not relate to the subject of that box either, for that matter.
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Whatever tool you use, the destination is undeniably south of your chosen mystery point. I found two Tanli's in China, both south of Japan. No way you could end up near Inari Japan from those points. Rather you end up in the Pacific somewhere.
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FWIW, I have entered a few answers, I thought I could simplify things by doing the simple math & then plotting the final point from the start point, (I used Mystery Spot, CA), it seemed to work, I also used Tanli, converting total mileage to degrees, etc.

Anyway, I had the chance last night to speak with a friend who is a cartographer by trade & he corrected my thinking, explaining that the N/S directions are VERY important to be done in the order given, as travelling 1000 miles at longitude 40 will take you to a much different place than travelling 1000 miles at longitude 20, due to the curvature of the earth.

So we (he) calculated it all over again, following each step and using his fancy dancy mapmaking programs, but hi tech & simple versions (very little difference by the way) and strangely enough, we end up on a Mississippi county that begins with "I", Issaquena.

I did not impose upon his time to try multiple starting points, and, honestly, the entire mileage thing may be complete misdirection, it may be another type of code completely, lord knows we have seen plenty of misdirection in this game.

But for those who are mapping this, please realize that as complex as these challenges have been - I seriously doubt, if this is as "simple" as mapping on a GLOBE, that the differences in distances due to the north/south relative positions have not been a factor.

Good luck all
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Of course, that explains it! Thanks (although I would have thought it was the east/west directions that were more important to be done in the right sequence).

Unfortunately I didn't get the same result when I tried it, starting at the Mystery Spot - I ended up near Georgiana, Alabama. No doubt I was being less accurate than your cartographer friend. My points visited: Spain, Ireland, Poland (almost exactly on Warsaw), Poland again, Germany, Sardinia, Illinois and finally Alabama. When did mine start going wrong?
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I wish I could tell you Doublecross, unfortunately, I didn't have the foresight to log the private chat. I do remember Spain, poland, germany, sardinia & Illinois, but I don't think you can head due south from Illinois & end up in alabama by any stretch of the imagination.
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OK, thanks - quite encouraging. Actually Chicago is due north of western Alabama, by my calculations.
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location of final spot relative to beginning

if we assume that the glasses direction code is the key, where Right=East, Down=South, Left=West, and Up=North and the miles are the distances in order of waypoint, then (assuming my math is correct) the location of the final spot should be 1582.89 miles East, and 346.62 miles South of our starting point.

I started at Mystery Spot, CA, and ended up near Roy, LA. anybody else want to check my math and see where the end up (I don't really care where you start....)

This is assuming a whole hell of a lot, though.

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