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PlayNicely
Boot

Joined: 16 Jan 2007
Posts: 14

Quote:

Later in the 1960s Sagan built on the work of American chemists Stanley Miller and Harold Urey. In the 1950s Miller and Urey had combined methane, ammonia, water vapor, and hydrogen, the probable components of Earth's early atmosphere, in a flask. They introduced electrical sparks into the mixture to simulate lightning. When they analyzed the contents of the flask, they found that the chemicals had combined to form amino acids and hydroxy acids, the building blocks of the proteins in living things. Sagan followed a similar method, but refined the primordial soup mixture to include methane, ammonia, water, and hydrogen sulfide. He also exposed the mixture to ultraviolet light to simulate the effect of sunlight on the chemicals. His mixture produced amino acids as well as several kinds of sugars and nucleic acids. Nucleic acids are fundamental substances of life, responsible for passing on genetic characteristics and triggering the formation of specific proteins. The work of Urey, Miller, and Sagan showed that the chemicals present on the early Earth could combine under the right conditions to form the building blocks of life.

Reference from http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761555513/Sagan_Carl_Edward.html

There's also a load of other stuff about how he was the Author of 'Contact' The film which was later made in 1997 starring Jodie Foster

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 6:05 pm

Darkstar
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Joined: 07 Apr 2005
Posts: 256

Guys I think this is fairly important:

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Methionine is one of only two amino acids encoded by a single codon (AUG) in the standard genetic code (tryptophan, encoded by UGG, is the other). The codon AUG is also significant, in that it carries the "Start" message for a ribosome to begin protein translation from mRNA. As a consequence, methionine is incorporated into the N-terminal position of all proteins in eukaryotes and archaea during translation, although it is usually removed by post-translational modification. Methionine can also occur at other positions in the protein, but during the creation of amino acid chains, methionine is always created first.

This means that methionine is veeeery important. It is also one of the two amino acids which contains sulphur (and all of the other ingredients on the website).

This to me says KLOO in huge letters, so maybe we have to ask Yuki a question based on methionine? Thoughts?

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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 6:24 pm

Raze50
Boot

Joined: 15 Jan 2007
Posts: 67

robot
[SPEC]

Ok, sorry because this is kinda random, but when the synapses fire you just gotta go with it...

Did you folks know that the original concept for a robot (the term coined by Karl and Josef Capek...see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R.U.R._%28Rossum%27s_Universal_Robots%29) was more like a clone or ultra-human-looking android? I found out about this 'cuz a roomate is going to be in a production R.U.R. [see article] in the Spring.

The idea of YouKin making life-bearing goop made me think of clones. And the ALICE bot Yuki said it is making a robot body, plus the refs to natural languages, Philip K. Dick(VALIS, Androids...Electric Sheep?), Star Trek (Data), The Matrix (more AI). Mix in some puzzles, weird websites with input-thing-a-muh-whatsits, some funny Sci-fi blokes (they're such timeholes) from the UK, and I don't know what you get...Spec I Guess

But I do know there's a hell of a lot more action going on here than with Vanishing Point...

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 6:34 pm

Stinkyfinger
Boot

Joined: 13 Jan 2007
Posts: 20
Location: Bristol, UK

Darkstar wrote:

Guys I think this is fairly important:

Quote:

it certainly would tie in with the whole ai/creating life thing..

so, eva, was she grown in a petri dish then? Laughing

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 7:39 pm

newb0y
Veteran

Joined: 09 Jan 2007
Posts: 88
Location: Ealing, London, UK

looks like Pat and Dave (Timehole.co.uk) might agree with my theory - on their forum they say

Quote:

Re: YouKin
� Reply #1 on: Today at 02:17:28 PM �

Dave - Well you've come to the right place, we are indeed experts although of course we acknowledge that there is still plenty to learn about the meaning of life. We've looked at this YouKin site and we agree, this Youshi stuff does contain seemingly poisonous ingredients like sulphur and methane. However if you look at the whole, they create amino acids and with the 'brain's own natural electrical spark' that's the building blocks of life right there. How you get all that into a sweetie is another question.

Pat - Doesn't methane come out of cow's bottoms? Tongue

not sure where that leaves us though Confused

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:11 pm

Raze50
Boot

Joined: 15 Jan 2007
Posts: 67

welovebeef.co.uk logo

And look what's comin' out the bottom of the cow on http://www.welovebeef.co.uk...

Of course, that appears to be somewhat more solid than methane, but whatever...

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:24 pm

newb0y
Veteran

Joined: 09 Jan 2007
Posts: 88
Location: Ealing, London, UK

got a reply from Eva re: amino acid theory

Quote:

Hi Brian

Wow! 'The origins of life'!? Why would you have all that stuff in a health suppliment? How could it have any effect you?

be seeing you

Eva

On Thu Jan 18 22:24 , Signup sent:

Hi Eva,

Hope your foot is getting better and that you are managing to get around
a bit. I have had some thoughts about Youshi.

The contents of Youshi seem to be
Aqua = Water
Azane = Ammonia
Hydrogenium = Hydrogen
Yellow Crystal Sulfur
and Marsh Extract which could be Methane

with the exception of Sulfur these ingredients were used in an
experiment in 1953 to produce Amino Acids (the origins of life) - you
can see this explained at
http://www.chem.duke.edu/~j...
<http>

This experiment was also repeated with Sulfur as well and produced other
amino acids namely Methionine and Cysteine

Hope this helps for the essay - get well soon

Brian

So not much help there Sad

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:28 pm

bandri
Boot

Joined: 28 Jan 2007
Posts: 14
Location: Bristol

"Prof. Wilson is ... Connected to Youkin."

Russell_k wrote:

I did actually try asking it about professor wilson with both words and each singly. I got absolutely nothjing from it, just the usual if you asked it about random celebrities. It did know who "Neo"was though lol

I got a response, eventually, from "Who is Bryan Wilson?"

It said just "Prof. Wilson is ... Connected to Youkin."

So I screengrabbed it to Flickr and posted a link into Eva's last blog post, since she was asking about "connections". See http://www.evamcgill.co.uk/blog/index.php?itemid=16#c ...

ps. anyone care to collect up all the scraps from Yuki chats into the http://www.meigeist.com wiki?

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 11:41 am

danbull
Guest

hidden text

Sorry if this has been mentioned.... Am I the only one who hasn't seen the hidden text that says:

"Core Legacy interface open."

on the youshi page?

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 1:18 pm

Olly
Decorated

Joined: 06 Nov 2006
Posts: 167
Location: Bristol, UK.

Re: hidden text

danbull wrote:

Sorry if this has been mentioned.... Am I the only one who hasn't seen the hidden text that says:

"Core Legacy interface open."

on the youshi page?

I only just noticed it today as well Shocked

I didn't say anything incase I got trouted Razz

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:14 pm

Cross_
Decorated

Joined: 15 Jan 2006
Posts: 283
Location: San Diego

Re: hidden text

danbull wrote:

Sorry if this has been mentioned.... Am I the only one who hasn't seen the hidden text that says:

Yup, afraid you are Wink

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:54 pm

Pied Piper
Unfettered

Joined: 28 Jan 2007
Posts: 362

I know we haven't gone to Yuki for much recently, but I'm hoping that maybe we can get some kind of password out of it for the KenKon site. One thing I did notice was that when I asked "Who owns Youkin?" Yuki would say that he couldn't talk about that. But when I asked "What is KenKon?" Yuki replied, "KenKon owns Youkin."

So I'm wondering if we can still get some helpful answers from that little bot.

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:59 am

sebastianmary
Kilroy

Joined: 06 Feb 2007
Posts: 2

PlayNicely wrote:

Quote:

I'm still totally convinced there's a connection here between 1) the components of Youshi being these 'building blocks of life', 2) the fact that the components needed electricity to bring them all together, 3) the fact that brains produce electricity and 4) the fact that Eva ate it and then (at moments of high emotion, when her brain was producing a lot of electricity) FREAKY things started to happen.

So Youshi, when combined with brain electricity, produces some kind of life forms?

[/spec]
Hmm...

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:36 pm

Jediwannabe
Decorated

Joined: 11 May 2006
Posts: 282
Location: Lincoln, UK

sebastianmary wrote:

It was definitely intended to have SOME effect on Eva, but it looks like a combination of Brian Wilsons impaired objectivity and SRI's incompetance failed to yeild any conclusive results - plus we know that Wilson was only getting Eva to research Youshi as a means to make her discover her true origins anyway.

From the Kenkon recovered memo files...

Quote:

Programming PE (psienergy) for task performing.
Funding requirements for SRI/B.Wilson, complications from receiver. Information necessary on EM Radiation and singular test subject. Objectivity is impaired in relation to B. Wilson and test subject.
Impact of YouKin/Youshi samples, results unqualified by SRI with random testing allowed. Results in public domain vis a vis test subject URL broadcast.

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:43 pm

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