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[PUZZLE] The BRUTUS Files
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Giskard
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Azathoth666 wrote:
I think we can discount Scratch being in serious Whomp trouble... Someone (even Caesar) would've noticed that a whole bunch of Whomping would be going on, correlated that with Scratchs' cry for help and gone "ooh, maybe he *IS* in trouble..."


[inbetweenkindaofftopic]Which suddenly pops up the question of HOW they exactly 'detect' these whomps... is that through detecting a "spike"... and a spike in waht? The code?[/inbetweenkindaofftopic]

I think that Scratch's cry for help is authentic, because the others appear quite shocked... it IS weird that he "recorder" an entire .mov file for it, but then again, he could have had it handy "just in case" Smile
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yanka
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brutus2.mic
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alright, you wanted mommy and daddy, i brought you your precious mommy and daddy.

it's just too, too bad that whatever monsters of authority you've dredged up in your snooty scriptkiddy games are rilly glad that you've been looking so hard for them.

this is a nightmare, but i think it's so totally worth it, you toga-wearing fool.

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yanka wrote:
brutus2.mic
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alright, you wanted mommy and daddy, i brought you your precious mommy and daddy.

it's just too, too bad that whatever monsters of authority you've dredged up in your snooty scriptkiddy games are rilly glad that you've been looking so hard for them.

this is a nightmare, but i think it's so totally worth it, you toga-wearing fool.


So does that make scratch Todd Rogan?
I just woke up, now my brain hurts.. :)
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Y'know, it strikes me that the Scratch has this huge chip on his shoulder and he's out to take it out on the whole world. Or if not the whole world, just Caesar.

What's with that??? It's like Scratch was all "Halp Me", the others were like "woah, whats the matter Scratch?" then Scratch is all "Actually, just screw you, Caesar..."

What brought that on? Are we missing something?

[edit] Anywho... he certainly gave .lhp a sign... Wink
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Giskard wrote:
[inbetweenkindaofftopic]Which suddenly pops up the question of HOW they exactly 'detect' these whomps... is that through detecting a "spike"... and a spike in waht? The code?[/inbetweenkindaofftopic]


It seems that the whomps put some serious CPU loads on nearby computers (the unjust.* files). I know that I have a number of systems that email me when the CPU load gets too high (or disk space too low, or unusual network activity, etc). It is very likely this is how they are doing it. (Well, either that, or they have a realtime CPU monitor running in the corner of their screen and they notice that).
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Sunny du Pree
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erekose wrote:
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Er, what? What happened? *looks around wildly*


omnie, I was referring to the please help message
the timestamps between the .jpg and the .mic are almost an hour apart
looks like caesar, texel, and random went to the whomp site and found beth as indicated by the barking sound (laika). they then seem to have got themselves in trouble of some kind.

what that trouble is exactly is open to spec

feel free to disagree with this interpretation


that help me message reminds me when linda blair had Help Me pop up on her skin when she was being possesed in the Exorcist. shiver Shocked
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I don't think anyone has mentioned this, but there may be something significant about the scratch MOV file at 5.000 seconds and at 10.000 seconds. At those precise moments, theres a pronounced "click" in the audio file... in the wave analysis, it appears as a, for lack of a better term, whomp... Again, they're precisely at 5 seconds and 10 seconds into the file, down to the nearest thousandth of a second. Can't be coincidence...

I'll do some more fiddling...

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I think I said something stupid; I guess Scratch couldn't have been following AI man, because Caesar logs some times (Beth's?), and he'd be able to check if they match with Scratch's. I don't know; I'll leave that to professionals *wink at xnbomb*

Azathoth666 wrote:
What's with that??? It's like Scratch was all "Help Me", the others were like "woah, whats the matter Scratch?" then Scratch is all "Actually, just screw you, Caesar..."

I like Scratch; so I'm really biased, and, therefore, probably wrong Sad . I think what happened is: Scratch asked for help, and he meant it. Nobody helped him - Bounce (?) and Mello couldn't, and Caesar didn't want to (and I do wonder where Texel and Random are). So Scratch got/is getting out of whatever trouble it was himself, hence
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this is a nightmare, but i think it's so totally worth it

Whatever he has to do hurts him (physically etc.), but it's worth it. And we never did answer this question - why are they chasing the whomps? Texel and others are probably just curiosity-driven - the pattern puzzles them, and they feel the need to explain it. But Caesar? I don't think anybody besides Scratch knew that his real "agenda" is to find his parents, and I can only conclude that "the pattern" is a front; that he knows that chasing the whomps somehow translates into finding his parents.

Azathoth666 wrote:
Are we missing something?

I'd say so. Wherever he was, he found Caesar's "mommy and daddy" there, and he even "brought them". What does that mean? Did he let Caesar know where they are now? I don't see anything that would indicate that (nothing new on Nekodas' sites or any others) And what did happen to him? Also, I think he is referring to the Monitors - that they might be after Caesar now. But mainly, for me it's "the nightmare" - I mean, he obviously had to go through something, and they aren't even HIS parents; and instead of thanking him, Caesar bags on him... kinda cruel, I think...

[edit: spelling]
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At the risk of sounding too obvious, the system the AI Man runs on is based off of distributed computing. Therefore, it makes sense that whenever he affects something, computers in the surrounding area "whomp" as they make the change take place.

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umdesch4
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Yeah, I noticed those two clicks in the audio track as well. I looked at that those bits very closely, but all I see is standard clipping (ie. there's no interesting data in those sections). I wonder if they correspond to frames in the video that have something interesting in them.

I mentioned the possibility of a visual clue in the .mov file earlier in this thread, but noone seems to be running with it....

Chris.

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yanka
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umdesch4 wrote:
Yeah, I noticed those two clicks in the audio track as well. I looked at that those bits very closely, but all I see is standard clipping (ie. there's no interesting data in those sections). I wonder if they correspond to frames in the video that have something interesting in them.

I mentioned the possibility of a visual clue in the .mov file earlier in this thread, but noone seems to be running with it....

Chris.


I would run with it, but I don't know how, lol. I think there should be something more there... though neither Bounce nor Mello noticed it
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umdesch4 wrote:
Yeah, I noticed those two clicks in the audio track as well. I looked at that those bits very closely, but all I see is standard clipping (ie. there's no interesting data in those sections). I wonder if they correspond to frames in the video that have something interesting in them.

I mentioned the possibility of a visual clue in the .mov file earlier in this thread, but noone seems to be running with it....

Chris.


The video is 10 frames per second, so 5 seconds in is the 50th frame, 10 seconds in is the 100th frame. On the surface, there doesn't appear to be anything special about these two frames.

For what it's worth, here's some pitcures...


BMPs.zip contains these 2 files:
50.bmp - the 50th frame of the video, corresponds to 5 seconds in.

100.bmp - the 100th frame of the video, 10 seconds in.

5seconds.jpg - the audio wave at 5 seconds

10seconds.jpg - the audio wave at 10 seconds
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Thanks bakntime! Maybe having the bmps available will inspire others to look into it. Who knows?

Unfortunately, you seem to be right. I can't find anything interesting about them.

Chris.

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yanka wrote:
brutus2.jpg just went up:
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OK, we all here now? I've got sort of a line on Scratch - access logs to PO indicate he's using a dial-up near here, but other tracing I am trying to do is showing sporadic access points. Whatever's going on, I don't think he's staying in one place for long.

mello, you must chill. OK, so we've got some serious weirdness going on here, but texel survived just fine. Scratch is one stubborn guy - he's most likely crying wolf. He didn't believe me before, who really thinks he's since been converted to the church of caesar, huh? Razz He's just mocking us, oh how clever he is. Etc. etc. etc.


Ok, going by what Ceasar wrote, I tried http://www.paintover.net/log and it gave me a login box with the domain "private". So far that's meant that we aren't supposed to go there. We should be looking for clues to the login information.

And sorry if this was posted somewhere before. I searched for it and didn't find anything mentioning it.
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Gah! I can't access http://cascadevortex.com/bomb/ anymore! What happened? Is something updating?

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