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 		[Interaction]Chris Brown (cFreak@gmail.com)
Might as well get this topic started, since new information points to some relevance here
I caught cFreak off guard on G-mail tonight, and had a little exchange of words with him. It doesn't give much, except confirm suspecions, but it also hints at a strike plan of some sort, at least for exposing good old Priest Killer. Anyway, i've posted it below in all it's typo'ed goodness.

And I guess for the beginning to make sense, I suggested to Chris that if we could figure out why his old boss (cfreak) wanted to trash his name, then we'd be able to infer what he'd stand to benefit from it, and that that might be vital information.

anywho, on with the show.

Gmail chat Sunday feb 11'th 21:00 CET (close enough!) wrote:

me: Chris, I haven't been able to uncover anything about your ex bosses Motives, but there's a new and likely very relevant message on the interface. I take it you hav eseen it?

Chris: the person with "information"? ... yes I've seen it. I'm not certain what he could be talking about. Hopefully this information will materialize ... I'm laying low at the moment

me: Nah he's got me baffled aswell, but since i have you on the line anyway. You used to work on the programming of the interface yes?

Chris: yes

me: Okay good, then maybe you can give me a piece of Information I feel i need.

Chris: possibly .. what are you looking for?

me: I was contacted over an interface message by Agent Lex, sporting yellow Karma... What does that signify and can he be trusted you think?
A number of people have been seeking me out for various reasons it seems, and well... I'm a bit wary of who to trust and who not to. the future of our present might be on the line if i share the wrong information, or do not share the right
Damn this being ultimately responsible for the future of all our lives is enough to give me a headache <.<

Chris: Honestly I don't know much about the karma system ... in the interface I believe there is a value behind the colors but they are translated on the defense-corp end and we just got the color data
my guess is that he's some kind of higher form of red

me: hmm okay, but what's your take on this Agent Lex character? I mean, I seem to remember him being green, but he must have done something of importance (good or bad) to be changed to yellow.
Damn higher Form red? Then im far from certain I should talk to him...

Chris: are there any red agents you do trust? Some that seem that they may not be really loyal?
I don't think the karma indicates what a person really believes, at least not all the time
f someone could ask this new A.D. Prince guy
or possibly Foo
a red person might at least get part of the truth

me: I would say that notgordian has some sympathy from me, but he's swapped from red to green so many times it's making my head spin. Other than that Lex has shown some levelheadedness in the past, so maybe I shall give him the benefit of the doubt.
and ask ADPrince or Foo what? About the significance of karmic colours?

Chris: yes
or really, why Lex has changed
and I agree .. i've had some contact with Lex, he seems to be a smart enough guy

me: I will try to set something in motion.
I'll report back to you if something develops
thanks for the time dude, stay low. We'll get to the bottom of this somehow

Chris: great. Just send me an email. I'm going to disappear for awhile until we know the content of this information
np

me: yeah I can understand that man
We'll make you safe somehow

Chris: thanks for your help

me: Change the Present!
anytime

Chris: and the future!
Smile


- Discuss!

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 		interesting Smile kinda like how I caught Brackin offguard last night!

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 		Interesting indeed...I'll fire off a message to ADPrince and see what I can find out. (FYI, my karma has remained Red since the system went up. I've been a good double agent.)

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 		Also Im totally not trusting lex anymore. Since he's not sharing knowledge with me that I already know, and thus I cannot act on it >.<

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 		OK, we know who killed Alex Wright Sr. and why now--apparently, the Alex Wright that had to die was the elder.

from Chris
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Well .. where to begin.

There are certain paradoxes that take place in time communication. Take any single point in history and the further you go into the future from it the more "divergence" you get -- meaning the more possibilities there are as to what future actually takes place.

Its not as much as one would have you believe though. In fact changing the course of history almost seems futile. While it is possible for decisions to affect the future, the total weight of everyone else's decisions often counteract ... as is the case with this particular email.

I did send the email in question. But I sent it differently than I had remembered it coming. Originally it came from this account and there were no accusations of anyone pretending to be anyone else. The email actually did make it to a few agents. Those agents made an attempt on Alex Wright Senior's life but failed. In the end DefenseCorp did the job. Wright was missing and his son blamed Brackin.

I purposely hacked my old account and sent the email from there this time, in hopes that a slight change would alter the time-line enough for them to succeed. Unfortunately this was not the case. The email was intercepted and not released in time. DefenseCorp likely knew that if they weren't the ones to get rid of Wright Sr. then it could cause their base of power to be destroyed.

It all hinges on making sure Brackin was blamed. Alex Wright Sr. was the real invisible force behind the time project in the beginning but not even his son knew this. Certain decisions by Phil and Alex Jr. eventually led to DefenseCorp basically stealing the research and creating Deus City. But they had a problem, if Alex Jr. found out they stole it from his father he would work against them, they needed to get rid Alex Sr. and Brackin. What easier way than to kill Alex Sr. and then blame Brackin? Alex Jr would then make nice with Foo (even after the server room incident) and then actually help Foo take over the company, all the while ensuring that the whole truth never came out.

You might ask why I simply didn't send an email to Alex. Unfortunately Alex isn't on the scene yet early enough and I doubt he would have trusted me anyway. I could not contact the past directly until after the hackthefeed.com site went live.

Simply making sure that Alex Sr. lived was not a viable option either. Our time periods are not far enough from each other to create such a large divergence (at least not easily). If an actual agent got to him first it would be difficult to blame Brackin (as he wouldn't have been there at the time). Alex would have turned against DefenseCorp and he had the resources to prevent the larger mess from occurring. In essence we needed to create a small divergence that would trigger a larger one.

So no I don't like advocating murder .. but of course to me the man had already been murdered. I guess its what helps me sleep at night.


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So after I got the coded note I sent an email out to Chris, seeking *yet another* IG friend (lo the path of the Prophet is a lonely one...)
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Your information was very illuminating. I suppose, then, that you do not recall my phone call, because in your half of the iteration, I didn't make it. Very well. It is obvious that you share the Guardian cause: to set right that which has been imbalanced and make whole what has been rent asunder. You also seem to be well placed within the interface system.

It seems we are natural allies; you have the technology to manipulate the interface; I have prestige, and a growing network of Guardian 'Disciples' - neither Agents on strings, nor Followers like those taken in by Theophilus Frater and his doomsday cult, but free individuals who choose to seek truth and righteousness in the Guardian cause, to save the future from itself, to annihilate Deus City. We will not murder for you (and I hope you see now that violence is not the way to effect meaningful change; in a world riven by war, one would think that fact at least would have become obvious!) but we will do our best to use whatever tools or information you can reveal to us in the service of this cause.

I always suspected that we have been led down the garden path, and that the 'factionalization' of the TFA's was all according to Fujimoto's plan. I'm not interested in creating yet another replay of the Magnanimous Dictatorship of Tang Fujimoto. I want real change, and if possible, I want to end this madness. I do take it this is the type of arrangement you had in mind when you deposited your information in the interface?

Also, please let me know what you meant by 'FATHER BECK DESERVED TO DIE'. This may be so, but the Father has, at the very least, given me interesting tools to work with. Good luck, and be careful: if the agents of DefenseCorp get ahold of your information, they will more than likely hunt you down and kill you.

Angel Violet Nightshade
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And just look what I got back. Evil or Very Mad
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Nightshade,

You seek not to be a faction, but in doing so you appear to be a faction. You have a name for it, for crying out loud!
You seem to want my information but you don't seem to want to do what I need in return ( i.e. kill someone). It strikes me as odd, as many millions of people will die in the war you speak of and yet the thought of killing one person beforehand is morally repulsive. I guess its true that millions are a statistic and one is a tragedy.

The only information I can give you at the moment is that it is Alex Wright Sr. that needed to die at the hands of someone other than DefenseCorp. By doing this it would have prevented them from blaming Brackin, and it would have prevented Alex Wright Jr. from helping Foo begin his company.

It is too late in this iteration of time. Changes made to the time-line will not cause it to diverge enough from its present course. It seems it would only take one small decision but unfortunately the weight of everyone else's decisions counteract those changes. Aside from very small details, the future is set, at least when you're talking about time-spans of 30 years. Changing the way Wright Sr. would have died was the last best hope for preventing it. Destiny has prevented it. The only hope is changing it from the inside.

As for Beck. I have my reasons. You do not know enough yet for me to be willing to share.

Chris

What... A... HO! Laughing Nobody talks to the Guardian Prophet like that. So here's what I just sent him:
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You take quite an adversarial tone, and after I extended the hand of friendship to you - not once, but twice, and that after 'present-you' lied to me about Deus City! I am *not* part of one of the ridiculous chess pieces of Fujimoto which manipulate the interface and steer the TFA's into re-creating their future. Just part of a network off free and independant individuals who want to actually *do something about it*. Do not mistake me, CFreak... I am a BAD enemy to have... I will not kill *for you* nor will I ask the 'Disciples' to do it... and in any case the point is moot because as you said the moment has passed... but I will not hesitate to do *anything I have to* to undo what has been done. Scoff at my pathetic attempts to right things if you will. Just don't stand in my way, or I will run you over... I wonder what Alex Wright would do if he found out you conspired to have his father killed?

Angel Violet Nightshade
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Let's see if that don't rock the boat. Who says I can't play hardball?
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 		Touché Violet!

+1 to you!

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The saga continues...
What a vexing fellow.
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"Network", "Disciples" ... you can say you're independent all you want, but you're a faction. Not only that, you're a faction that exists only in the interface -- an interface controlled by Foo! You can think for yourself, and you can work against him, but don't underestimate him ... because can and he will use you. Not only that, the networks of people from the Underground will use you too. To get to places they cannot. The TFAs can be used as pawns for both sides.

I am taking an adversarial tone. Look at it from my perspective ... you're young, you're from 30 years in the past, you've been communicating with us now for what? 4 weeks since the interface went live? You have the potential to become a powerful force ... but you're not there yet!

On the flip side I've been doing this for a long time. I'm the only person with the power to communicate with the past though means other than the interface. I have the ability to manipulate almost as much as Foo himself does. Stopping me would be damaging to his own power. He'd have to shutdown most of the interface to do it, and finding me physically in your future is not easy either, I have the ability to become anyone here. They will not find me easily (trust me they've tried).

I am powerful, Nightshade ... thus everyone wants to be my "friend" ... but I can assure you I will not be used.

Also your attempts to scare me are pathetic. Alex Wright believes that Brackin killed his father, a fact that is one of the larger reasons this future exists at all. He's unlikely to believe a self-proclaimed prophet from the past. And even if he did, he'd have to find me.

As for lying to you. The "me" you know from 2007 doesn't even believe that I am him and won't until he finally realizes that Foo is the evil bastard he really is. I have lied to agents here as well. I've pretended to be from the present ... again so that I could affect change without having every agent coming to me for changes in karma or prestige or more credits or whatever statistic they think they can fool Foo with.

Go play prophet now. At the very least your antics might serve as a distraction.

Chris

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Obviously you're not going to take me seriously. I don't mind; your approval, of my methods or of my purpose, is immaterial to me. Believe as you will. I'm just another TFA sheep. At least I'm doing my best to game the system. I do hope my 'antics' amuse your Supreme Omnipotent Lordship, and continue to remain amusing. I came to you, not for 'help', but with an offer of allegiance. If you have no use for my allegiance, so be it. I shall continue the work in my own way. And should you decide that you are in fact interested in taking advantage of my offer of trusted connections (silly names and all) who are not subject to Fujimoto's illusions and snares, I will *consider* your request. As to whether Wright could be turned from his preconception by the presentation of evidence - well, cross me and we'll see. That's not a threat. It's a prophecy.

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 		So, news from Chris.

I tried getting him to spill some info on Phil and maybe we got something good... maybe not.... Transcript below
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4:08 PM me: Hey Chris got a few seconds? got something I'd like to go over with ya if it's possible
Chris: sure
me: I was browsing around the interface a few days ago, and I stumbled onto a mission named "Judge" or something like that
4:09 PM let me put it this way
what we recieved when we completed it was an E-mail that you once wrote, but which was intercepted
Chris: indeed. I've seen it. And I did write it
me: Honestly it made you look like you're Chris Brown from the future
4:10 PM And here I was thinking you where a disgruntled current employee. Good show hiding it Wink
Chris: well .. both are true "from a certain point of view" to quote a once good old-world movie Smile
4:11 PM Since i have enough backdoors to actually communicate with people outside of the interface, I didn't want to reveal my true location
me: A wise choice I think. Heck I even think Foo and the rest of the gang still believe you to be a 2007 agent
4:12 PM but what I want to ask you is if you have any idea where Phillip Moore is at the time?
unless ofcourse you will now tell me that you are him O_O
Chris: hehe, Foo knows who I am. He hides it well too Smile ... the problem for Foo is that I'm so entrenched he'd need to shutdown the entire system to get me out Smile
No I am not Phil
4:13 PM Unfortunately I don't know anymore about his whereabouts than any of the agents
me: always cool to be in a possition of absolute power Wink
Shame, it seems that it is really important for us to find him and ask him some questions
Chris: there's a rumor among some of the agents that he was seen in Mexico sometime in early 2007
me: and nice Return of the Jedi quote Wink
4:14 PM yes I 've heard this too
Chris: I can tell you that Senator Moore is alive today
Considered the second most powerful senator
4:15 PM though he doesn't get out much. Somewhat of a hermit.
me: yes indeed. I guess he would be if our suspecions are right
if he has something to do with the death of Alex Sr.
he would not have done it without personal gain that's for sure
4:16 PM Chris: no ... he doesn't. DefenseCorp carried that out themselves. I know that Moore was not involved.
me: Oh, ok. I had definitely misunderstood something there then... but I guess it can still make sense
4:17 PM If he has incriminating evidence, that keeps Alex in-line, Foo might offer him power to sedate him, in return for his silence...
And if that is even half true, it is even more important for us to find him now.
4:18 PM Chris: Alex's only motivation is that he believes to this day in 2037 that Brackin killed his father
and he wants revenge
4:19 PM what I sought to do with my email was create different circumstances in which Alex Sr. died (there is not enough divergence in the timeline to have prevented his death from occurring at all)
me: Exactly, and if Phil knows this not to be the case, maybe his silence has been bought by Foo
4:20 PM That is why I believe it can still be salvaged, if we can get Phil to tell alex the truth
But you don't know where he is, I realize this... just theorising =)
Chris: I don't believe Phil would have known. It is documented that at the time he was working at DefenseCorp compound in Mexico
and I'm certain they didn't tell him or anyone else, anything
4:21 PM me: I have on last question though... I have reason to believe that our agent mails on the interface are being read by third paries
Chris: DefenseCorp can read them, yes
me: and some agents have mentioned a way of sending secure messages... If you're so entrenched in the system, can you tell me how to avoid this?
Chris: It wouldn't surprise me if Foo himself has done so
4:22 PM you'll need to find someone with a sniffer
it only works if someone on our end has one
me: Hehe According to a certain little songbird, he has done so indeed. on more than occation.
our end as in 2007 or 2037?
Chris: 2037
sorry to be confusing Smile
4:23 PM me: hehe okie. So i gotta get a 2037 person to trust me enough to share it with me... And i guess you don't happen to have one?
Chris: I often forget that I"m communicating across space and time Smile
me: hehe you and me both man, and I have the added obstacles of not knowing if it's 2007 or 2037 people on the line Wink
Chris: not an extra. But I'm working on a way for agents to possibly obtain them more easily.
4:24 PM well ... if anyone other than me claims they are from 2037 in an email or an IM they are lying
me: indeed, but i meant on the interface
Chris: true ... on the interface it is difficult
4:25 PM DefenseCorp obscures the information on purpose
me: should be easy enough to implement really, but I guess DefenseCorp obscures it for their own reason
Chris: its all a maze of twisty lies
me: lol, looks like we're both preaching to the choir here Wink
Chris: the more you have to ask them for information, the more control they have
hehe
4:26 PM me: Anyway, thank you for your time (your time on here anyways, not 2037, I'm fighting tooth and nail to avoid that one Wink)
Chris: I understand
me: I gotta run now. But please remember that anything you can tell us of Phils current where abouts will be of great importance to us.
stay safe Chris
4:27 PM Chris: I will try ... see if you can find someone still in 2007 that can find Phil for you
maybe someone from the old team? I don't know I'm just guessing
me: I will, once the hangovers in my imminent future dissipates
Chris: haha
4:28 PM me: understood, see you around =)
Chris: later


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 		So is he saying we need to find one of the team members first before we can find Phil? Maybe we should expand our search to check out the original team members - that might yield more results than a strictly Phil-based search?

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 		It is possible. Time to look for David and what's her name Arjii or something. =P

Also in a sort of related note (but not quite) are there any agents here based physically in Texas?

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 		Although I'm not in town and won't be until Wednesday evening- I live in Dallas. My girlfriend lives very near campus. In fact, I can't wait to get back, as I'm interested in going to the campus and seeing what kind of images I can find there, and maybe see some of the cast walking around campus. (Probably not, it's a pretty big school.) But why do you ask?
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 		Oh... No reason... *angel face*

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 		What happens if he shuts down the system? I mean all of it... the cars would stop moving, the lil ships wouldn't work, creds would be useless.... I just sent him a couple of ideas about wyas to stop the future from happening, but just thought of this one. Maybe someone he trusts might want to suggest it to him Wink

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taureanfreak wrote:
I just sent him a couple of ideas about wyas to stop the future from happening, but just thought of this one. Maybe someone he trusts might want to suggest it to him Wink

Him who?
Foo?

Because the only reason Foo wants to change the future, is to change it into what we see from the feeds, or possibly one where he has even more control...

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