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[Puzzle] Silver #238 Riemann
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Astrix
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 		Hooray!! No longer a lurker, but a Kilroy now. Very Happy

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:11 pm
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fretty
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 		The new answer page for this card is very interesting, it has no mension of proof but only says:

"If the message contains more than one word then separate them by using spaces, and no punctuation."

Message, what message? Could there be a hidden message as proposed way back at the start?

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xnera
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 		Riemann disproved?

The person who linked me to this just said that "a paper was released", so this paper probably hasn't been formally published yet.
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poozleModerator
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 		Looks like something to keep an eye on (also, stickying this post so that its with the other unsolved season 1 cards so that it can be kept an eye on.)

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aliendial
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 		If you watch the video of Adrian's presentation at a conference you will see at the end where he discussed the unsolved cards. Including this one. Which was put in as a joke. And so they could point out the $1M prize.

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-6352536437357912484
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pineapplejelly
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 		Finally getting round to some of my harder cards a few years later than everyone else and just waded through 47 pages (it's nearly 5 a.m. ... I need sleep!).

cthrag yaska wrote:
The only real difference between this and, say, Shuffled or 13th Labour, is that MC don't know what the answer is at the moment. However, just because nobody today knows what the answer will be, doesn't mean that the card cannot be solved; only that it cannot be solved YET.


This is not true. What if the Riemann hypothesis were false? Then, given that Mind Candy have said on a number of occasions "In order to solve the card you need to prove the Riemann hypothesis", the card would be unsolvable.

It is possible that if this were the case a counterexample would suffice, but Mind Candy have NOT said "prove or disprove", they've said prove, and when they said the possible options you have for inputting solutions to the card, they listed them as
- a mathematical proof inputted using LaTeX
- the name of an accepted proof of the RH
- the author of an accepted proof of the RH

Seems to me people have been completely overlooking the fact that the Riemann hypothesis might be false.


Edit: I was on page 40 when I read this and on p.41 some other people are discussing the same thing. I feel I should add that "prove" never means "prove or disprove" - it means "prove". In all of my maths exams and exercises when they want to be ambiguous over whether a statement is true or false the standard wording is "Give a proof or counterexample."

By the way, as justification of my mathematical knowledge (or not Razz ) I should say I'm in the third year (going into fourth soon) of a maths degree and I've just finished a module on the Riemann Zeta function. (Admittedly, a key motivation for taking the module was that I had Riemann (the card, not the dude) hanging around at home somewhere and wanted to try and give it a solve. That's my geekery for you.)

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 11:42 pm
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 		Silver #238
Factors
1020030004000050000060000007 factored =
11*101*103*140411*5130571*12373564559

while both 127 and 9721 are primes...
looks like apples and oranges

but I'm not bored enough to proceed Wink

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