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Confirmed solve: location of Receda Cube
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somerswey
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FEARLESS and GOOD

Thanks for confirming we were on the right track Rand0m.

We thought we ought to leave something to mark the spot where you found the cube, and the top of a fence post (that we found next to the quadruped) seemed appropriate.

The 4/8/4 could be to do with BOLD/FEARLESS/GOOD but we thought, since it was spinning, that it was pointing us to ribo-nucleaic-acid.

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Re: FEARLESS and GOOD

somerswey wrote:
The 4/8/4 could be to do with BOLD/FEARLESS/GOOD but we thought, since it was spinning, that it was pointing us to ribo-nucleaic-acid.


That would be elegant... if it weren't spelt "nucleic" with 7 letters Razz

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somerswey
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Never underestimate the power of not being able to spell.

Looks like bold/fearless/good is a better fit.

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Mr Darley, as a web designer I'm surprised you can't see where "bold" came from. I only just got it myself, to be sure.

E and M were indeed highlighted and made bold in Flying. But also, <em> is the replacement html tag for <b>, aka bold. And in "FEMARLEMSSGQQD" both Es are followed by M, making "EM" twice.

D'oh.

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Rand0m
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Agent Lex wrote:
Mr Darley, as a web designer I'm surprised you can't see where "bold" came from. I only just got it myself, to be sure.

E and M were indeed highlighted and made bold in Flying. But also, <em> is the replacement html tag for , aka bold. And in "FEMARLEMSSGQQD" both Es are followed by M, making "EM" twice.

D'oh.


Thought that myself for a while, but surely <strong> replaces bold and <em> replaces italic?

Fairly convinced there wasn't a Duke of Burgundy called Charles the Italic Smile

Maybe instead the printers' term 'em' for an m-space, a gap between characters the width of a letter m?
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rose
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So I googled stong, good (yeah, I'm not smart enough to see GQQD and assumed GOOD -but next time I would) and bold and found the Dukes of Burgandy, but I just don't know if I would have taken the extra step to find the butterflies. I doubt it. I think I would have been put off because I know Burgandy is in France and I would have thought it was taking me away from England.

This is really a long way from the number strings I think. Very complicated puzzle.
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Wow, I agree rose, this is a long way from the number strings. Looking at doing it without the LoB hints, I'm not sure how it could be done, unless there were more hints on the cards that completely passed us by. The problem is just that there are so many dead steps on the way that give no indication that you are on the right track.

First of all you start with the number strings, which you might be able to match to the map with the corners of key square if you look hard enough (if you ignore the 2 bits that didn't quite work out). I even tried to do this for a few hours but got disheartened by not even being able to tell if 1=up and coming to lots of random sequences of letters.

Then you had to use the last number of the strings to get the letter from the street and index this list of letters with first numbers of the strings (going 1-2-3-4-1-2- etc) and even shuffle these around a bit to get the right order. And what did that give you? "FRBPULAFHPOSMLUCNIDYMENDBKIELGTPDOAAKILTIO ", a random string of letters.

Next you had to do the whole mod 4 thing to this string, using the 4 specific RNA letters in the right order (Which the cards must have had a hint to somewhere, surely) and this "UUUGAGAUGGCCAGACUAGAAAUGUCAAGCGGGCAACAGGAC " a list of random letters, albeit with somewhat less variation. Of course this string could be interpreted as the smaller RNA equivalent giving the "FEMARLEMSSGQQD". And still here there isn't anything outright obvious, you still needed to pick out the 'EM' codes and see that Q's are used for O's, and then google your result.

This was probably the biggest cube finding hint and I guess they couldn't make it easy sure, but looking at it apart from the LoB stuff there had to be some indication of what to do on other cards right? You can't expect someone to rot the vig of a Beale without some sort of instructions or indication they are on the right track. If I gave you "MDEIUGAETOSTYEHSRLOOD" I don't imagine you could tell that you were supposed to convert it to morse with consonants being dots and vowels being dashes, split it up correctly to get letters then take the corresponding letters from the first sentence of this post ala "a=1 - z=26" to find an answer.

Gee I sound to be rambling a bit now, all I'm trying to say is there must have been hints right?

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Excellently-written story, rand0m.

Congratulations to you! Very Happy
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I second what sixsidedsquare said (+ nice summary there Wink - I'm guessing the second joker card had some kind of big clue that we missed, at least.
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levicc00123
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Re: Puzzle solutions????

PuzzledPineapple wrote:
titi_nicolas wrote:

2) do you really think that the 13th labor can be brute force cracked? From what I read, it could take a *very* long CPU time.
Same thing for Riemann... I am not hoping to get the solution from perlpex city Wink


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sixsidedsquare wrote:
If I gave you "MDEIUGAETOSTYEHSRLOOD" I don't imagine you could tell that you were supposed to convert it to morse with consonants being dots and vowels being dashes, split it up correctly to get letters then take the corresponding letters from the first sentence of this post ala "a=1 - z=26" to find an answer.


Now, I've spent some time looking at this, and while I see your point, I gave it at least as half-hearted an attempt as I did the other story puzzles. Wink
You must realise of course that Perplex City has me looking for puzzles everywhere.

Of course, given another hour or so, I could bang together code that would give me all the possible morse-code to letter-number to letters-in-the-first sentence-of-your-post combinations... but I'm not sure you've really hidden something there.
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ginc
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Re: Puzzle solutions????

levicc00123 wrote:
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sixsidedsquare
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ne0x wrote:

Of course, given another hour or so, I could bang together code that would give me all the possible morse-code to letter-number to letters-in-the-first sentence-of-your-post combinations... but I'm not sure you've really hidden something there.


Hee, let me save you an hour or two: 1 3 1 3 4 2 4 3
But what I was trying to get at is that just given the string without the method, I doubt anyone could decode it.


P.S. You'll groan if you decode it.

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But what I was trying to get at is that just given the string without the method, I doubt anyone could decode it.

I don't see how the number strings could have been solved just from the cards. I have trouble even seeing how the first step (numbers to letters) could have been solved from the cards alone. And, I think that the failure of anyone to solve them, despite lots of trying, confirms that impression.

We didn't solve a lot of the META though, so who knows.

Were there any puzzles like this in the cards?

I think that the most obvious way to find the cube from the cards was to figure out the Jurassic strata. I don't think anyone solved that until another clue was given. But in hindsight at least that seems solvable from looking at maps and things. From that, possibly look for all parks or areas within that area that matched the trail pattern given by the End of the Line card. ( I don't think that we had "arboreal" as a hint from the cards, as I recall that came from LoB, the Sentinel and the event where the 3P confirmed it was hidden in a wooded area.) And then just keep searching till you found the right place. Although I know I was put-off by the idea of digging up parkland in NYC- I'm still not sure how that correlates to the laws and rules in the UK - there are parts of Central Park that are less busy than others, so I suppose it could have been done without being caught.
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Rand0m wrote:
Agent Lex wrote:
Mr Darley, as a web designer I'm surprised you can't see where "bold" came from. I only just got it myself, to be sure.

E and M were indeed highlighted and made bold in Flying. But also, <em> is the replacement html tag for , aka bold. And in "FEMARLEMSSGQQD" both Es are followed by M, making "EM" twice.

D'oh.


Thought that myself for a while, but surely <strong> replaces bold and <em> replaces italic?

Fairly convinced there wasn't a Duke of Burgundy called Charles the Italic Smile

Maybe instead the printers' term 'em' for an m-space, a gap between characters the width of a letter m?


Yeah - technically, <em> is logical markup rather than physical and so can reasonably rendered as things other than italic (for example, if the browser can't render italic), but it is generally italic. It probably wouldn't be wise to hire Kurt to design your webpage...

(Incidentally, printers also have an em-dash, IIRC. Not that it probably helps...)
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