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Hey Guys,

Just wanted to add my own little contact with Nate to the thread ... It all began when I had second thoughts about sending him and email and opted not to. Apparently in the process I DID sent him an email .. a blank email. Here was his response ...

Quote:

Insanitarium2k6,

If it wasn't for the "2k6" part I'd think you were a fellow vet like me with that name.

I think something was wrong with your email. It had no message or subject to it.

Nate


So I figured I'd write him back, since he obviously wanted to communicate and this is what I sent ...

Quote:

Nate

I apologize, I must have sent the message in error. I was looking over your site, and while I found what you do to be quite interesting. I know that there must be a certain amount of security involved with what you do. As a result, I opted not to send an email .. or at least that was the plan. I apologize for the confusion.

But now that we have made contact, I guess it doesn't hurt to ask about just what kind of interesting stuff you've come across. I mean you've been all over the world with your travels - Peru, The Phillipines, Slack Farm (?) What kind of stuff could you possible have located at a farm in the middle of nowhere? But I guess that's where the old adage about not judging a book by it's cover comes in huh?

Well I'm rambling now, so I guess I'll shut up. But if you would like to talk more, then you know where to find me.

Take Care,
Insane (Chad)


I soon heard back from him ...

Quote:

Chad,

No need to apologize. I've just been a little inundated with weird email messages from strangers lately so I guess you could say I'm a little confused.

It's nice of you to take an interest in my work. Except for the people paying the bills through the occasional contract or two, it doesn't seem like too many people have any real interest in learning about the past through the artifacts we leave behind. Maybe that's because they're an avenue to the truth about what really happened. Ask any cop - they'll tell you that the evidence is the only thing that doesn't lie or change its story over time. And that's the problem I think - not too many people want to know the truth anymore.

But yeah, you could say we've uncovered and recovered a lot of very interesting things along the way, especially when Ted and Frankie were still around. It's funny you ask about that place near Uniontown, Kentucky, right off the Ohio River. The government finds the oddest places to hide the bases and facilities they don't want anybody to know about, don't they? And believe me, they were doing some weird stuff there. I wish I could tell you exactly what you'd see in the images we have from that operation but I'm honestly not sure what Ted even put there, on the website. You see, depending on the contract and the contractor, he didn't necessarily put everything we recovered in the site files.

Once I get back home, I'll check them out and see if they are anything I can share with you. I'd do it now but I'll be damned if I can remember what the password might be. Actually I need to check the user name too, since Ted always used the location as the name for logging in, but you never knew quite how he was going to abbreviate each one. You know, something easy like Goose Bay Labrador is pretty easy to guess - GBL - but when you start getting into multiple words, names, states and so on, who knows what Ted choose?

Anyway, now it's this old man who is rambling so I guess I'll sign off for now. Stay in touch, so I don't forget to send you some more information when I get home.

Nate


Most of it is the same information we saw in other emails, except for the line that I highlighted. If somebody out there is decent at stegging, maybe we should take a look at the images on the page just to see what we might see ...

Just a thought
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It's funny you ask about that place near Uniontown, Kentucky, right off the Ohio River.


Giving us this information makes me think that 'UK' is going to be part of the login ID for the Slack Farm: TSFUK, perhaps? Shocked

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[slightly OT]

This is slightly off-topic, but this CHASE program's technique reminded me of something I always thought was funny. I grew up near Oak Ridge, TN (that's one of the MARA sites, actually) and there was a story that one of the labs there disposed of barrels of sodium in local water-filled quarries by catapulting them into the air above the quarry, then shooting them full of holes. When the newly-perforated canisters hit the water, the sodium reacts and blows up the can.

I would love to see some footage of that.

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Re: [slightly OT]

molecularr wrote:
This is slightly off-topic, but this CHASE program's technique reminded me of something I always thought was funny. I grew up near Oak Ridge, TN (that's one of the MARA sites, actually) and there was a story that one of the labs there disposed of barrels of sodium in local water-filled quarries by catapulting them into the air above the quarry, then shooting them full of holes. When the newly-perforated canisters hit the water, the sodium reacts and blows up the can.

I would love to see some footage of that.


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ok so logged into HAFB (see reference post) and I was looking over a few things.


First one of the documents has a letter from a professor in Arizona - here's an easier to read transcript for ya - pretty close anyway:

Dear Mr Li Za (?)

Quote:
I am a (paranormal?) research fellow of department of anthrpology, the University of Arizona, Tucson, Arizona, U.S.A. I am very (impressed?) on Bigfoot in North America and Wild Man (992?) in China. (?) I am planning on (?) DNA analysis of bigfoot and wild man hair (?). I am looking for wildman hair (?)(?)(?).

Though (?) (?) (chinese symbols?) you and other scholars published in (??). I know that you have wild man hair collected from many different (?) of (shanghai?) China. I wonder if you have wild man hair with (?) and if it is possible for you to (?) me with some of (?) (?) for my project. I would greatly appreciate it, if you let me know (?).

In my joject, I (am?) (?) going to (?)(?) and (channel?) (?)(?) analyses of bifoot hair and compare the (?) with those of wild man hair (inserted word: published) in your (?) (?) (?)

Thank you very much in advance
Sincerely
Yumah kyo?


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There is also a map of the soviet socialist republic (ie ukraine and such) with Afghanistan... not sure but the A on Afghanistan appears to be written in.

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Found some hidden text in one of the images (see below)... not sure what it means but I'm pretty positive what it says:
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Brave Bigfoot -- dunno why it would say that


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The written dates on the articles:
22 May, 1979 (22-5-79) National Enquirer
26 July, 1986 Examiner


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I don't know if I see anything with my eyes that is very useful beyond developing storyline ... could be hidden stuff (didn't try to desteg
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Adding the Username and Password here for continuity.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
UN: HAFB
PW: classifiedfolder

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Jas0n
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so I've got a .mil mailing address and have sent the following e-mail to Nate in an effort to try to get some more information - logins whatnot


Quote:

Hello sir,

This is Msgt Jason -----, soon to be retired. My father served quite some time in the Army and his service is what inspired me to join the Air Force. For God and Country you know? Well as I've been nearing retirement, the whole service before self is starting to fade and I'm beginning to question some of the stories my father told me just before he died two years ago. While I'm sure you understand my hesitation in explaining the stories, I hope you can realize how awkward it was for me to find a few of the posts he informed me about to be in the list of sites your company claims to have visited. I'm trying to find out more specific information so that I can become more comfortable in my beliefs of what he explained happened as he was pulling security at those sites…

While this list is not conclusive of the locations he claimed to have been stationed, it is a list of a few of the locations your company claims to have gathered information:

Braithwaite, LA
Horn Island, MS
Lexington Army Depot, KY


I did, also, find it strange that one of my early assignments was on the list. I was stationed at Lowrey when I was a buck sergeant, back when the Air Force still had those, Damn I'm getting old. There used to be a little strip club out the back gate, Kitty's Place. I wonder if the building is still there, had my name etched into the stripper pole – yeah I was a regular, but it didn't have anything on those clubs at Anderson or that little joint in Thailand.


Anyway, I appreciate any information you can give me on those particular posts. My father turned out to be a little crazy in his last days, but as I remember some of the things I "didn't" see as a young sergeant … it makes me believe him somewhat. I'm just seeking closure.

Thanks,

Msgt Jason -------
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PS: I will be unavailable at work tomorrow, so if you're able to communicate with me through the -------------- address I would greatly appreciate it.



Also - not sure if anyone noticed from the above Insanitarium post - but we were given the login for Goose Bay Labrador ... no clue what the PW is

GBL

Along with the mention that the logins are all acronyms of the name of the location. May have difficulty with some of the states -- dunno why Horn Island, MS wouldn't necessarily be HIMS , but might be something else - /shrug
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I've found a couple of leads to the sources of these documents. OOG, but still it's nice to have some context...

First of all, from the "International Bigfoot Society", there are at least two references to material that seem to be the same thing as in the HAFB folder:

From "Track Record #36":
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Dr. Yasushi Kojo, Tokyo, examined the elemental concentrations
("Hair Analyses of the Wildman in China," unpub. ms.) of Wildman
hair studied by the Chinese and concluded that problems were noted
in the analyses, besides suggesting that diet and soil concentrations of some elements varied from locale to locale, and is unsure
that Wildman/human hair can be differentiated. He also commented on
the possibility of the Wildman being of an unknown group of humans.
* RESEARCH REQUEST. New WBS Member Dr. Yasushi Kojo of Tokyo is
doing microscopic/dna analysis of probable Bigfoot hairs. He wonders
if anyone can provide him with some for analysis. He is presently
studying samples of Bigfoot hair from Ohio and Pennsylvania,
but would like to examine samples from the Pacific Northwest.


This seems to describe the letter found in HAFB. Google turns up several mentions of Yasushi Kojo in connection with Bigfoot/Wildman.

From "Track Record #63":
Quote:

Report received from Dr. Li Zi, 12/31/96, with letter and photos. This is the Peking, China, researcher that
did a report on trace elements in Wildman hair (I've not corrected wording).
TRACE ELEMENTS ANALYSIS OF UNKNOWN PRIMATE HAIR BY PlXE
Summary of report in Nature Journal (1987 July), volo.10 No.7, 111th Issue)
Does "wild man" (bigfoot) really exist? The issue is related to the origin of human beings, human evolution, anthropology, and other basic question. It crosses the study boundary of anthropology and biology. Thousands of witnesses have been reported from all over the world (Asia, North America, Russia, Europe and Mongolia). Yet none of these reports has mentioned "a live wild man" and analysis of the data scientifically. People still suspect the existence of wild man. It is one of
the famous four mysteries in the world.


This seems to describe the material from HAFB here and here. The 'letter and photos' could be the same things that we're seeing.

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Jas0n
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OK was thinking about some stuff and found the GBL password - it was in the first translated text (6x6)

Goose Bay Labrador (north east canada)

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http://m-a-r-a.org/locs/GooseBay/
login: GBL
pw: coldweathergear

and after further review I see we got a nudge toward this one from Matt:
By the way, still no clue on how that 6x6 grid relates to the type of code introduced with the Goose Bay/cold weather gear note,


text:
RETRIEVAL SITE: Goose Bay, Labrador (GBL)

DATE: 1998

AGENCY MEMBERS: DiRenzo, Harvey

NOTES: "the Goose" SAC Base

Private contract

USAF cold weather gear circa early 1950's from Survival Training Camp at GBL




Clark Air Base (south pacific)
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http://www.m-a-r-a.org/locs/ClarkAirBase
login: CAFB
pw: 25thinfantry

RETRIEVAL SITE: Clark Air Base, Philippines (CAFB)

DATE: 1992

AGENCY MEMBERS: DiRenzo, Harvey, Shiffer

NOTES: military base turn over to local government

Private contract

Documents and artifacts associated with 25th Infantry service for former member


Nankon Phanom AFB, Thailand

http://www.m-a-r-a.org/locs/NakhonPhanomAFB
login: Appears to be NKP
pw: unknown at this time

Reasoning for it to be NKP is that in one of the journal entries the author mentions being in Thailand at NKP

Quicklinks discussing Thailand - possible something in here is the pw:

here
here
here
here

notice in some of those that the author mentions the location as NKP rather than anything else in particular
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Great job Jas0n!
All photo files have been uploaded to my flickr. Found in the MHC folder.
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Jas0n
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enaxor wrote:
Sorry for the double post, but Catherwood has solved the puzzle on the back of the photo.

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"These things, creatures, many of them are labeled LAB 101 Plum Island New York


leading to a new username and password for www.m-a-r-a.org....
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
un=PINY pw=lab101



well now we know where the video clip cryptidtruth used came from

what's with the poodles?

rowan wrote:

enaxor then got the password for the MARA Bergstrom file
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un=BAFB pw=paperclip


Genero's first name eh?

Looks like the one file is a list of names that are x'd out
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Jas0n wrote:
rowan wrote:

enaxor then got the password for the MARA Bergstrom file
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
un=BAFB pw=paperclip


Genero's first name eh?

Looks like the one file is a list of names that are x'd out


But we can still read the names under the X's though:

Quote:

OPERATION PAPERCLIP

ARTHUR RUDOLPH / ARTHUR RUDOLPH
WERNHER VON BRAUN/ WERNER VON BRAUN
KURT BLOME / HENRY STECKEL
WALTER SCHREIBER / JONATHAN TAFT
HERMANN BECKER-FREYSING / RALPH CRADE
SIEGFRIED RUFF / SIEGFRIED RUFF
ERICH MILLER / SALVATORE GENERO
REINHARD GEHLEN / RANDY GEHLER
KLAUS BARBIE / KLAUS BARBIE
HEINRICH RUPP / HENRY ROUGH
LICIO GELLI / LICIO GELLI

Montreal, Canada
McGill University
Allen Memorial Institute

Dr. Ewen Cameron


So these are all names of bad Nazi bigwigs. You can see for yourself that they were taken from here.

My SPEC is that these are aliases bestowed by Operation Paperclip (which was involved in bringing Nazi scientists to the West). So Genero may be an alias for Erich Miller.

But surely he would be too old to be "The Miller" wouldn't he?


Also, "Dr. Ewen Cameron" was real person.. another scientist involved in some secret experiment stuff: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Ewen_Cameron

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Well, ol' Nate is finally back home, and he responded to my email (I had asked him again for the login for NKP, and I also asked him about the notation "CLSRETEP_2005_FDMD_ records file" at the bottom of the HAFB.txt document on MARA).

Quote:
Hey man, sorry for the delay in getting back at you from your latest email. My travel plans ending up being snafu'd and only managed to get home this past weekend. And even though this old man was never happier to see the homestead, I still wasn't able to relax. Seems some yahoo broke into my place while I was gone and ransacked both my personal and the M-A-R-A business stuff. So I've been dealing with the police, the insurance company, and just way too much goddamn red tape since then. They didn't take too much, but I know there are some artifacts missing from the M-A-R-A stuff, items either never claimed by the contractor or stuff Ted, Frankie, or I grabbed while on one of our jobs.

Yeah, I know that might sound weird but sometimes we end up holding on to the items we've been asked to recover, a couple of times in government contracts where the contract was cancelled after we completed our mission but before we could deliver the results, and at least once when the guy who hired us turned up dead before we could wrap up the assignment. Now that I think of it, that's the same guy who hired us to go into Haneda, that old airbase in Japan. He was a reporter researching some secret government program he'd thought he'd uncovered, and those documents were part of his research. After that recovery, he contracted us for a second gig, at Fort Detrick, Maryland. That's what the FDMD stands for, and the records file bit is probably the password Ted cooked up for those files. The other part - the CLSRETEP - was the guy's name,Peters, written backwards and marked with LC for linked case. Again, that was just the way Ted did things. In that case though, like I said, the poor guy turned up dead by somewhat mysterious circumstances if I recall correctly, before we could turn over the stuff we had collected.

Hey, I've got to run. I'm meeting up with someone else who's interested in this same stuff. I feel bad I've put off the poor kid a couple times already with coming home late and all the crap that's happened since so I need to finally get together with him and see what he wants. Well, I kind of know what he wants, I mean, I've seen his website and all, just not sure how I can help.

Gotta run.

Nate


So, more break-ins, huh?

And he's clueing us into the log-in for Fort Detrick, MD at m-a-r-a..

Who is "Peters"?

I've tried FDMD/recordsfile with no luck..

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I guess we know where the "extras" in wikibruce's bionic package came from.

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mine is a tad different

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Hey darling, sorry for being out of touch for a little bit. My travel plans ending up being snafu'd and only managed to get home this past weekend. And even though this old man was never happier to see the homestead, I still wasn't able to relax. Seems some yahoo broke into my place while I was gone and ransacked both my personal and the M-A-R-A business stuff. So I've been dealing with the police, the insurance company, and just way too much goddamn red tape since then. They didn't take too much, but I know there are some artifacts missing from the M-A-R-A stuff, items either never claimed by the contractor or stuff Ted, Frankie, or I grabbed while on one of our jobs.

Yeah, I know that might sound weird but sometimes we end up holding on to the items we've been asked to recover, a couple of times in government contracts where the contract was cancelled after we completed our mission but before we could deliver the results, and at least once when the guy who hired us turned up dead before we could wrap up the assignment. Now that I think of it, that's the same guy who hired us to go into Haneda, that old airbase in Japan. He was a reporter researching some secret government program he'd thought he'd uncovered, and those documents were part of his research. After that recovery, he contracted us for a second gig, at Fort Detrick, Maryland. Ted would've called that FDMD probably, knowing him. Again, that was just the way Ted did things. In that case though, like I said, the poor guy turned up dead by somewhat mysterious circumstances if I recall correctly, before we could turn over the stuff we had collected.

Hey, I've got to run. I'm meeting up with someone else who's interested in this same stuff. I feel bad I've put off the poor kid a couple times already with coming home late and all the crap that's happened since so I need to finally get together with him and see what he wants. Well, I kind of know what he wants, I mean, I've seen his website and all, just not sure how I can help.

Gotta run.

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