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blackhawk127
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TimonyCrickets wrote:
Planet X is considered the 12th planet but in that the 12 planets include the Sun and the Moon. So you have this order:

1) Sun
2) Mercury
3) Venus
4) Earth
5) Moon (Luna)
6) Mars
7) Jupiter
Cool Saturn
9) Uranus
10) Neptune
11) Pluto
12) Planet X (Nibiru)

Now I would not get rid of Pluto because according to the ancient records that talk about Nibiru (as well as Sitchin) Pluto is a planet. In this case again Jupiter would be the 6th planet from the outside.

Also, Marduk was the Babylonian God associated with Jupiter. The name od Jupiter in Babylonian... Nibiru (which is the name of the 12th planet according to Sitchin).

Ok I may have stayed up most of the night reading about this stuff Wink darn ARGs!

well look on the bright side atleast now your well equipped with a ton of into that is considered crazy by the scientific community. hmm... i guess thats not to bright a side is it.

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alia
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TimonyCrickets wrote:


Also, Marduk was the Babylonian God associated with Jupiter. The name od Jupiter in Babylonian... Nibiru (which is the name of the 12th planet according to Sitchin).


well, that seems excellent.

so, do we have any idea yet what to do with this? do we have any unsolved puzzles?

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Has Jupiter ever been mentioned in the game before? I wonder if we can find Jupiter or any information on any of it's moons anywhere else in the game?

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blackhawk127
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while you can read through my story so far http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17695
i cant recall any time where any part of the planets or roman mythology was mentioned except in the case of venus

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New post at AlfredAlan.com. New cipher in the source as well. Easy to crack, same keywork (Marduk):
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-- CF TD DC OP UD LG EV TM MQ WM NS LG CY --
BESURETODRINKYOUROVALTINEX
Be sure to drink your ovaltine


Also, after the SUN ARMIES thing, it says "solved?" Is there something more?

The saying "Living my life's not hard enough." is a lyric from the Disturbed song he linked to "Prayer".

The title of the new post (Starting from Square 2) gave me a hunch. Lisak's site showed all pages of the blog as updated, so I checked Page 2. Believe it or not, there was a new funky cipher at the bottom of the source:
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!-- 1-27,2-9,3-39,4-22,5-16,6-39,7-5,8-6,9-37,10-0,11-13,12-15,13-21,14-9,15-0,
16-0,17-1,18-24,19-44,20-24,21-38,22-2,23-0,24-12,25-19,26-9,15-45,16-29 --

All the first numbers are in order until the last two. This does not match up with the first number cipher we got back in '06 being that there are odd numbers above 11.
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I don't know if this helps, but I looked for Ovaltine on Wikipedia, and the article says that " Vital One" is an anagram of Ovaltine. I do not know if this helps at all, but you never know. And for those who are thinking I have just lost my mind, read the spoilered comments from Argodaemon's post. Smile
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I read my post and I still think you are crazy. Very Happy

No, it is good to keep anything and everything in mind. You never know... Good find.
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argodaemon wrote:
I read my post and I still think you are crazy. Very Happy

No, it is good to keep anything and everything in mind. You never know... Good find.

Ha yeah, I get that a lot. Wink But yeah, I am always going to wikipedia for all kinds of things. Not always accurate I know, but still, it is a great resource to feed my research appetite. I am not especially good at the cipher part of ARGs yet, so maybe my love of arcane facts will come in handy to us. Laughing

EDIT: Sorry for possibly being off-topic here, but I would like to know what you guys think would be a good book to learn about cryptography. I have heard that David Kahn's "The Codebreakers" is good, but I don't know if it would be good for a newbie such as myself; it looks pretty huge if Amazon.com's preview is any indication. Any help would be appreciated. Wink
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I am currently trying to work out the other new cipher but I wanted to point out that ovaltine reference is also from the movie "A Christmas Story"... I wonder if that means anything.

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I had that thought yesterday, with the Ovaltine Decoder thing, and did a lot of research. It was started back in 1935 and, over the radio, they would give a code like (B-12). You would line the two pieces of the ring to that code and then each number in the cipher coincided with the letter across from it. Because the new Alfred cipher has numbers going from 1-26 in the beginning, that could stand for the first letter, and then the number it corresponds to. This may just be a key to something we get later.

There are a few sites out there that have pictures of the original rings, if we need them.
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blackhawk127
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you might have something there heres a site from a previous game with a printable version of the ring http://www.radioarchives.org/annie/downloads.html
my guess is to use the original old number cipher and the ring somehow
the annie ring however only goes up to 26

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I swear I checked this, but oh well. On the error page of the Alfred site (shown as robots.txt on the Lisak Site) there was a message in the source:
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!-- Square 2 ends with "it studied the constellation" as its key --

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i coulda sworn i did to, he only changed it recently i guess were moving to slow =P

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Ok, so I found this 4-square cryptogram thing that has a square 2. Here is what it says:
Quote:
FOURSQUARE (50-60 pairs)

Four 5x5 squares are set up. Squares 1 and 3 are plain unkeyed (I/J in same cell); squares 2 and 4 are keyed. The first letter of each pt pair is found in square 1, the second in square 3. The two cells are considered opposite corners of a rectangle. Cipher substitutes are found at the other corners of that rectangle, first in square 2, the second in square 4.

1 2
- -
A B C D E G R D L U
F G H I K E Y F N V
L M N O P M B I Q X
V W X Y Z T C K S Z

L I C N V A B C D E
O T D P W F G H I K
G H E Q X L M N O P
A M F S Y Q R S T U
R B K U Z V W X Y Z
4 3
- -

P: co me qu ic kl yw en ee dh el px
C: LE WI XA FN EX CU DX UV DP GX HZ


Refs: PC I, JA63, JA69 (RC).


But I guess we would also need a clue on how to set up square 4? Also, it doesn't seem to use numbers? Just thought I'd throw that out there.

ETA: the formatting on the squares gets all messed up, but it's from here.

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Here are some ideas as to what the constellation thing means:

Only two things can "study" constellations, kind of. People and telescopes. In the science link given on the Feb.21 blog, there was consistent reference to the Spitzer telescope and they also talk of two observations of planets found within certain constellations. Those being Vulpecula and Pegasus. These constellations also border each other.
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