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[rlp6028]

The card or linking the program on your website is done?

[Amadeus]

Nice one on the decryptor smartyman. But I don't understand what 'Handle' means and I can't get it to work (it says error on page).

[smartyman]

[bozzball]

First Post!

[ariock]

Re: First Post!

[smartyman]

New, new Shuffled solver

[Bendover]

[smartyman]

Joker positions

[THESB]

Hello all, first post. This card keeps me up at night!

Here are a couple of the ideas I have tried briefly. Maybe one of you can expand on something.

a BUG is a name for the Joker in a -p_o_k_e_r- game, It is also another name for a VIRUS.

the joker is also a WILD CARD.

I have tried subracting the vanishing letters from the 108 that do not disappear.
I have tried subracting everything but the vanishing characters from the 108 that dont disappear.
For both options I've tried every keyphrase I can think of.

I don't believe that the starting deck before passkey is anything different than the standard 1-54. But I could be completely wrong.
PXC designers did not intend for this card to be as hard as it has been. I think most believe that this is a Solitaire cypher, and I think so too, but I can't help but think that if this IS a Solitaire cypher, someone would have figured it out by now.

At this point, once the answer is discovered, or given away, I figure the response won't be one where people can't believe they didn't get it, or thought they got close, It'll either be "I can't believe that was a silver card", or "What a stupid card".

[THESB]

This may be irrelevant, but when running the 108 chars thru the solitaire decryption using the passkey: JOKER. The name HAZEL does appear in the garbled mess. Hazel "Cold"bone is apparently is an office manager at Hesh. Here is the wiki article http://perplexcitywiki.com/wiki/Hazel_Coldbone I can't help but think that the Cold has something to do with it, but it all reminds me of a quote from a movie:

[THESB]

Ok last post. I forgot to mention that her only "public file" is a shopping list. That seems a little fishy.

[THESB]

Ok last post. I forgot to mention that her only "public file" is a shopping list. That seems a little fishy.

[Albedo]

I've been fiddling around with 'Shuffled' for the last couple of days and I thought I'd put in my twopennorth. First off, I don't have the card so I can't check any solutions I come up with, and also I can't pore over the card itself for any thermally-senstitive microtext (or whatever) that everyone else might somehow have missed, so I'm assuming that all the information on the card is known. Also, this thread runs to 55 pages so I skimmed a fair chunk of it and didn't see my exact plan of attack laid out by anyone else, but I may have missed it so apologies if I have nothing new to offer.

Starting assumptions (no new ideas here): We are dealing with two different cipher texts. The 108-letter text was not rounded up to 110 characters with dummy letters by the codemaker. There must be a reason, and I think this a) to emphasise the number of letters, and b) to show where the text ends, which seperates it from the 20-letter code. The length of the long text is not coincidental, and is 108 characters because it lists the starting order of the deck, using 2 letters per card.

My plan of attack is based on the following theory:
There is no keyword that allows us to create the starting position of the deck from a new deck, otherwise the long code would be unnecessary. Instead, the codemaker enciphered the long text using the deck it describes, then reset the deck to the starting position before coding the short text. Thus the shifts applied to the 20 lettters of the short text are the same shifts appied to the first 20 letters of the long text. This means the card can be solved by trying to decode both codes simultaneously and seeing if both produce sensible output.
To make this possible the long text must represent the order of the deck in a fairly simple (ie guessible) method. My first thought on this is each letter pair consists of value followed by suit. The value of the card (1-13) is represented by the letters A-M, and the suit simply by C,D,H or S. The jokers are a pain as I don't see a way of repersenting that stands out from any other, but I've been working on the assumption that they appear as AJ and BJ.
This means that for each of the odd letters of the long code there are only 13 possibilities as to what they are, and for each of the even letters only 5. Each of these possiblities gives an offset that can be applied to the short code.
For example: The first two letters of the long code are WB. The W can only represent the letters A-M, which means it is offset by 10-22 characters, and the second letter can only be C,D,H,S or J offset by 25,24,20,9 or 18 letters. Looking at the first two letters of the short code EO, we can thus deduce that when decoded the first letter is one of the following: I,J,K,L,M,N,O,P,Q,R,S,T or U, and the second can only be P,Q,U,F or W.
By applying this theory to the first 20 letters of the long code we get a set of choice lists for each letter of the short text. By inputting these into an approprate word-finding program, a limited number of possible solutions can be genereated. The answers can then be back checked by seeing what the first 20 charactes of the long text would be and if they are nonesensical.
For example an early non-solution I generated was "I WISH TO SUPERVISE HELL", which made the first 20 cards of the deck
1 Joker, 7 S, 5 D, 4 D, 10 Joker, Jack H, 4 H, Jack S, 7 Joker, 6 S
i.e. nonsense.

Finally, if one does find a sensible short text with an apparently valid sequence for the start of the long test, one final verification is possible. We need to know the whole of the long text so that we can see if it produces the sequence of shifts we have generated by comparing the two codes. The only way we can do this is if the whole of the long text can be derived from the bit we already know, the first 10 cards. Thus, these 10 cards must have a pattern to them that we can extend to recreate the whole deck. I'm not sure if this means that the two Jokers have to be in the first 10 cards, or that we still have to guess where they are once we have the rest of the deck figured out.

I'm somewhat hampered in my task by the fact I only have a program that can find one word at a time from a set of choices, so I'm constructing my possible short text solutions from word lists. I'm also having to look for character names 'by hand' as the program won't accept additions to it's word lists. The blasted thing doesn't do two letter words either.

Anyhow, that's my thoughts on the problem. I realise I've made a lot of assumptions and if my coding system for the card sequence is wrong I'm completely stuffed.

[RedZed333]

We don't no nothing....

[bertyb]

Re: We don't no nothing....