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[LOCKED] [TRAILHEAD] NIN "Year Zero" ARG or ARGish happening?
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 		Just a reminder, we can start new threads in this forum.
If any one has time you can start a new thread for this last update.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:00 am
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Smoke0057
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 		From http://anotherversionofthetruth.com/artist.htm

Soonerlater 02/03/0000 14:14 post #18

b. Jan 10, 1967
d. Apr 19, 1995


My mom.

Explain it to me, Warden.

April 19th 1995 was the Oklahoma City Bombing. His mother would have been 38, after checking I found only one 38 year old woman.

SEVENTH FLOOR
U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development
Diana Lynne Day, 38, Oklahoma City
Northwest Church of Christ minister Bill Day Jr. recalled that his sister, Diana Lynn Day, was always the one in his family with laughter, church secretary Gayle Thomas said. "Probably everybody would tell you that she just always had a smile on her face," Thomas said of Day, 38. Thomas said Day was an outgoing and bubbly person who will be missed greatly. Day, who was the mother of Justin, 11, was a Housing and Urban Development program assistant. She and her son lived with her parents, Bill Sr. and Frankie Day.

I haven't been able to confirm her birthday yet, but that would make the poster Justin making him 38 at the time of the post, same age as his mom when she died. She died 4-19-1995, 4+1+9+1+9+9+5=38. Another weird note: I believe that would make him 24 this year, depending on his birthday, which would coincide with the halo. There's around 7 Justin Days still in Oklahoma.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:18 am
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Icer Rose
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 		New Video Posted
Video on Year Zero Website
I just thought I'd bring the video that just appeared on the Year Zero website to attention, it contains the Presence.

http://yearzero.nin.com/

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:31 am
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Icer Rose
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 		Clue in video?
Sorry to double post but I just noticed in the new video on site, about halfway through after the presence appears and the video freaks out if you freeze frame it at the right spot "/0024" appears in a bar of static.

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 		http://yearzero.nin.com/0024/

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:58 am
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bearda
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Smoke0057 wrote:
There's around 7 Justin Days still in Oklahoma.


Be very careful with this. You're starting to mix ARG events with actual events in a way that could have very real consequences.

Year Zero is a game. The Oklahoma City bombing was not.

Yes, Diana Day died on 4-19-1995, which adds up to 38. This is not a clue planted as part of the game, it is a coincidence. To say otherwise almost implies that the creators of the ARG were responsible for the Oklahoma City bombing. They were not.

Seriously, it's one think to bring up half cocked theories. It's another entirely to accost someone completely uninvolved in this about the death of his mother. Please don't pursue this line of reasoning, it's not worth it.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:00 am
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bearda
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 		Re: Clue in video?
Icer Rose wrote:
Sorry to double post but I just noticed in the new video on site, about halfway through after the presence appears and the video freaks out if you freeze frame it at the right spot "/0024" appears in a bar of static.


At one point they drive past a blue sign as well. If you freeze it at that point the sign appears to say "I AM TRYING TO BELEVE"

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:04 am
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 		odds are the number is relevent as it occurs on a keyframe, aprox 12 seconds in

exact time:
00:00:12.24/25

sorry I accept my Trout

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:19 am
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stoatie
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bearda wrote:
Smoke0057 wrote:
There's around 7 Justin Days still in Oklahoma.


Be very careful with this. You're starting to mix ARG events with actual events in a way that could have very real consequences.

Year Zero is a game. The Oklahoma City bombing was not.

Yes, Diana Day died on 4-19-1995, which adds up to 38. This is not a clue planted as part of the game, it is a coincidence. To say otherwise almost implies that the creators of the ARG were responsible for the Oklahoma City bombing. They were not.

Seriously, it's one think to bring up half cocked theories. It's another entirely to accost someone completely uninvolved in this about the death of his mother. Please don't pursue this line of reasoning, it's not worth it.


Yes, I quite agree- they're not gonna use a real orphan just to tell a kick-ass story. The woman's age was doubtless chosen at random.


Right now I'm having problems playing the video- I don't have the required compressor, but I don't know how to find out what that is... help!

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:26 am
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thalamus
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Mofy wrote:
odds are the number is relevent as it occurs on a keyframe, aprox 12 seconds in

exact time:
00:00:12.24/25


look up a few posts ..

http://yearzero.nin.com/0024/

Smile

not much there, but at least you know what the album will look like now...

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Smoke0057
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stoatie wrote:
bearda wrote:
Smoke0057 wrote:
There's around 7 Justin Days still in Oklahoma.


Be very careful with this. You're starting to mix ARG events with actual events in a way that could have very real consequences.

Year Zero is a game. The Oklahoma City bombing was not.

Yes, Diana Day died on 4-19-1995, which adds up to 38. This is not a clue planted as part of the game, it is a coincidence. To say otherwise almost implies that the creators of the ARG were responsible for the Oklahoma City bombing. They were not.

Seriously, it's one think to bring up half cocked theories. It's another entirely to accost someone completely uninvolved in this about the death of his mother. Please don't pursue this line of reasoning, it's not worth it.


Yes, I quite agree- they're not gonna use a real orphan just to tell a kick-ass story. The woman's age was doubtless chosen at random.


Right now I'm having problems playing the video- I don't have the required compressor, but I don't know how to find out what that is... help!




I wasn't planning on actually trying to find any of them unless something else pointing back to that popped up. Not sure how bringing up Diana Lynn Day accusses the creators of the Oklahoma City bombings. They did choose that specific date, so the bombing probably has some significance: i.e. resistance to government, violent revolution, and it also ties into what another poster in that thread said about the violent resistance is actually backfiring and part of the problem by spreading fear.
I'll agree the Diana and Justin thing is probably a coincidence, but I doubt the use of the exact date of the bombing is. Especially in the context used. The age may have been generated at random but the dates were not. At least one of them ahs to have some significance.
Numbers have been the most important information so far, do you really believe it is a complete coincidence, seeing as how much planning is involved in this?

Don't worry though: I'm not gonna go stalk real people over this thing or harrass relatives of departed.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:08 pm
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bearda
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Smoke0057 wrote:

I wasn't planning on actually trying to find any of them unless something else pointing back to that popped up. Not sure how bringing up Diana Lynn Day accusses the creators of the Oklahoma City bombings. They did choose that specific date, so the bombing probably has some significance: i.e. resistance to government, violent revolution, and it also ties into what another poster in that thread said about the violent resistance is actually backfiring and part of the problem by spreading fear.
I'll agree the Diana and Justin thing is probably a coincidence, but I doubt the use of the exact date of the bombing is. Especially in the context used. The age may have been generated at random but the dates were not. At least one of them ahs to have some significance.
Numbers have been the most important information so far, do you really believe it is a complete coincidence, seeing as how much planning is involved in this?

Don't worry though: I'm not gonna go stalk real people over this thing or harrass relatives of departed.


My point was that the date and her age are both values that are a reality; not part of the game. For the creators of the ARG to have any control over them, they would have had to have control over the date of the Oklahoma City bombing (Note to the crazies: WHICH I AM NOT TRYING TO IMPLY). It sounds silly when you think about it for a second. It's the coincidence.

Yes, I'm sure the date is a reference to the Oklahoma City bombing, good job putting those together (seriously). Not a coincidence at all, you're right, and definitely bears some looking into.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to imply anything, you did some great research. I just through that last line about the number of Justin Days in Oklahoma City made it sound like you may have been trying to contact him (after all, even if there was only one what kind of lead could you get out of it?). Please don't. That's all.

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Smoke0057 wrote:
From http://anotherversionofthetruth.com/artist.htm

b. Jan 10, 1967
d. Apr 19, 1995

April 19th 1995 was the Oklahoma City Bombing. His mother would have been 38, after checking I found only one 38 year old woman.


Um. 95-67=28
not 38.
I think this is referring to an event, but not an actual person. Attempting to find real-life people is a bit much.
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Smoke0057
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ariock wrote:
Smoke0057 wrote:
From http://anotherversionofthetruth.com/artist.htm

b. Jan 10, 1967
d. Apr 19, 1995

April 19th 1995 was the Oklahoma City Bombing. His mother would have been 38, after checking I found only one 38 year old woman.


Um. 95-67=28
not 38.
I think this is referring to an event, but not an actual person. Attempting to find real-life people is a bit much.


You're right I'm an idiot.

And I'm not trying to acutaly find anyone. The only reason I persued this avenue is they're referencing dates that have already happened, in whatever reality you wish. Dates in our reality's past, not theirs. It's dated 1995 not -27 BA.

So I'm guessing everyone is strongly advising against tryin to find the sources of the phone numbers too then? Just strikes me as wierd the first one based in Cali and this new one based in Cleveland, Ohio.

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stoatie
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 		If anyone else is having problems watching the QT video,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4JivMaovX8

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