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chancesend
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 		Re: Whois info
Diandra wrote:
(The bolding is mine.)

Domain Name:SCHUFFHAUSEN.ORG
Registrant Name:Arnold Q Niehoffer
Registrant Street1:DOELTSCHIWEG 234
Registrant City:Zurich
Registrant State/Province:Not Applicable
Registrant Postal Code:CH-8055
Registrant Country:CH
Registrant Phone:+41.008009174201
Registrant Email:aqn@schuffhausen.org


Nice find, Diandra! New site - obviously looks just like Wongmo's site.

And is it me, or does the "Zurich" phone number look fake? How about changing it to 1-800-917-4201? I called it but it was a busy signal
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tlacroixia wrote:
www.schaffhausen.com is under construction....

www.topname.com also resolves to www.schaffhausen.com...

did a google on [url]topname.com[/url] and that lead me to[url] www.turku.com[/url] here is something on it http://www.netti.fi/~jsatopaa/turku/turkucom2.html


Interesting. I don't know if it is in-game or out-of-game, but I did find something odd. The image is that of the sea, right. Now check out the images directory. You can browse it:
http://www.schaffhausen.com/images/

EDIT: Catherwood just noted that this is a valid URL: http://www.underscorehosting.com/affiliates/logos/schuffhausen.org/ushlogo.jpg
Looks like it's in-game. Smile

Additional Edit: Sorry...false alarm. I was looking at .com, not .org.
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 		Re: Whois info
chancesend wrote:
Diandra wrote:
(The bolding is mine.)

Domain Name:SCHUFFHAUSEN.ORG
Registrant Name:Arnold Q Niehoffer
Registrant Street1:DOELTSCHIWEG 234
Registrant City:Zurich
Registrant State/Province:Not Applicable
Registrant Postal Code:CH-8055
Registrant Country:CH
Registrant Phone:+41.008009174201
Registrant Email:aqn@schuffhausen.org


Nice find, Diandra! New site - obviously looks just like Wongmo's site.


That's very interesting... this ties Wongmo to James Avery's disappearance, don't you think? Since that's where the Averys went when they disappeared.

I tried dialing the international number (with the 41) and it doesn't seem valid. Tried calling 800-917-4201 and it was busy.
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 		The character's name on Dirty Rotten Scoundrels was Dr. Emil Schuffhausen. His first initial is E. Coincidence?

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 		http://www.hotelviews.net/Switzerland/ZURICH/ARABELLA_SHERATON_ATLANTIS/

Arabella Sheraton Atlantis Zurich
Doeltschiweg 234, Zurich

I wonder if that's where Avery stayed? Shocked Something we could ask Beth if she ever comes back online...

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 		BTW in German Schuffhausen means "created houses".

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 		Registrant Phone:+41.008009174201

A couple of minor problems here, while "41" is the correct international dialing code for Switzerland, it should be followed by the city code "1" for Zurich, not "0" (which is a invalid city code). In addition, the number is 12 digits long, and a real Swiss phone number would be only 7 digits (after the international code 41 and city code 1), and would be written as (+41.1) 000.00.00.

So, before you start calling, the number is completely bogus.
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 		curious...any one try steg detect on the phoenix.jpg on the new site....

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 		Dr. Emile Schuffhausen in Hawaii
http://www.med-quest.us/forms/DHSmedicaid/DHS%20Medicaid%20Online%20User%20Manual%20v20030224.pdf

Check out page 10... aren't Wongmo and Dr. Kane from Hawaii also?

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LazarusLong wrote:
Registrant Phone:+41.008009174201

A couple of minor problems here, while "41" is the correct international dialing code for Switzerland, it should be followed by the city code "1" for Zurich, not "0" (which is a invalid city code). In addition, the number is 12 digits long, and a real Swiss phone number would be only 7 digits (after the international code 41 and city code 1), and would be written as (+41.1) 000.00.00.

So, before you start calling, the number is completely bogus.


You are absolutely right, but there is still something fishy about it...
This is the first in-game site that actually has this registrar-info publicly revealed, which almost screams "FIND A CLUE HERE!" in our face...

The phone number is weird... :

- +41 (or every other +xx) can never be followed by one or more zero's.

- it doesn't HAVE to be .1 for Zurich, as it seems to be a 0800-number, which designates, throughout Europe, that it is a free information number

- if you would turn it into a valid Swiss number it would read +41 800 9174201, but that number doesn't exist either

- I dialed that number inside my own country, the Netherlands, and got a voice saying (in Dutch) "welcome to our phone-service. Please enter your card number" and nothing else... I tried a search on the number, which revealed nothing... suspicious, but probably not in-game
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 		Also... the address given is actually that of a Zurich hotel:

http://www.eswisshotel.com/zurich/arabella/

Also, because the reservations number for that hotel lists as 1-800-xxxxxxx I tried turning the AQN phonenumber into that format:

+41 1 800 917 4201

This works and gives me an electronic banking service answering machine, stating that the European Service is currently unavailable and they try to transfer me to New York... as a call to New York would cost me big bucks, I hung up... it's suspicious... AGAIN
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Giskard wrote:
I dialed that number inside my own country, the Netherlands, and got a voice saying (in Dutch) "welcome to our phone-service. Please enter your card number" and nothing else...


It can't hurt to try entering the 702... sth Shuffhousen number Very Happy

BTW, isn't that simply a pay-phone service?
They have them in GB, I don't know about Netherthlands...
You call a free number, get connected and asked for a card number. Then you have to dial a number of your scratch phone card - and can talk as long as there is still credit on that particular card.
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Mag wrote:
Giskard wrote:
I dialed that number inside my own country, the Netherlands, and got a voice saying (in Dutch) "welcome to our phone-service. Please enter your card number" and nothing else...


It can't hurt to try entering the 702... sth Shuffhousen number Very Happy

BTW, isn't that simply a pay-phone service?
They have them in GB, I don't know about Netherthlands...
You call a free number, get connected and asked for a card number. Then you have to dial a number of your scratch phone card - and can talk as long as there is still credit on that particular card.


You're right, Mag - that's how the mobile phone system works here; but I think the phone number Giskard dialed, within the Netherlands, is an out-of-game thing.
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Giskard wrote:

This works and gives me an electronic banking service answering machine, stating that the European Service is currently unavailable and they try to transfer me to New York... as a call to New York would cost me big bucks, I hung up... it's suspicious... AGAIN


Since Wongmo is obviously running a scam, I wonder if this is his Swiss bank account? Wink
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King Mob wrote:

You're right, Mag - that's how the mobile phone system works here; but I think the phone number Giskard dialed, within the Netherlands, is an out-of-game thing.


I think so too. Some weird info:

The official site of the hotel is here: http://arabellasheraton.com/?pid=174&lid=de

Another hotel-reservations site lists it, WITH the phonenumber from the Schuffhausen.org WHOIS as a reservations line, here: http://www.zurichhotelsandrates.com/arabella-sheraton-atlantis.html

Rolling Eyes

So, what's this then?? AQN registered a site using false information he ripped from a random Zurich hotel?
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